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corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
He's usually reliable.
- nails


I miss Scott Laughton in the 2 cst time slot.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Nov 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
I miss Scott Laughton in the 2 cst time slot.
- corduroy

Always liked barnaby last year
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
Listening to NHL radio on XM...hosts are saying the Flyers have a trade in place that will be announced soon. Word is it involves “3 to 4 pieces.”

We’ll see...

- BroadSTmayhem


Awwwwww poop.

Keslers got just the right amount of grit for this team going forward
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Nov 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
Meltzer for GM
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
Meltzer for GM
- mikel33

Bill's to nice to be an effective GM.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
Meltzer for GM
- mikel33


Gritty for head coach
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
The Scott Hartnell for R.J. Umberger trade early in Hextall's tenure was only partially about somewhat earlier cap relief but also partially about getting rid of a player whom Hextall did not feel was in line with various things he wanted to install internally within the team. That deal didn't work out well at all.


The BJs were forced to buy Hartnell out with two years remaining on his deal, incurring four years of cap penalties, while Hextall used their draft pick to trade for the pick he used on Vorobyev. I'd say it worked out fine for the Flyers.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
I would burn everything that is Flyers that I own and start watching the Devils if Dale ever steps foot in Philadelphia.
- Glak18


I missed the rivalry and cant say Im blinded by the hate. There arent many sports teams that have dominated to the level the London Knights since the Hunters took them over.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
Bill's to nice to be an effective GM.
- mayorofangrytown


Well he can hire someone to be his mean side
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Nov 26 @ 5:00 PM ET
no playoff series win since 2012
alternating seasons making the playoffs
goalie carousel
horrendous multiyear pk
basically a .500 team with long win and losing streaks at the same bottom of the metro spot at thanksgiving every season

the tunnel is definitely nowhere near in sight. hopefully that changed today.

- hammarby31


Only play-off series is a credible reason.
But we are 5 months out from Play-off decision s
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
I seriously hope that rumor of 3-4 pieces isn't true. Let's let a new GM do this stuff
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:02 PM ET
I missed the rivalry and cant say Im blinded by the hate. There arent many sports teams that have dominated to the level the London Knights since the Hunters took them over.
- Baxter27


I don't care, I would rather burn my crotch region with a welding torch than root for Dale Hunter.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 26 @ 5:02 PM ET
I still would like an answer to that question. I really would.
- MJL


The obvious answer you refuse to hear is that the coach needed to have the team ready for BOTH games, not just the first one.

You don't end up with league's 3rd worst first period goal difference over a 270 game sample by accident.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
The obvious answer you refuse to hear is that the coach needed to have the team ready for BOTH games, not just the first one.

You don't end up with league's 3rd worst first period goal difference over a 270 game sample by accident.

- Feanor


Exactly
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
The obvious answer you refuse to hear is that the coach needed to have the team ready for BOTH games, not just the first one.

You don't end up with league's 3rd worst first period goal difference over a 270 game sample by accident.

- Feanor


Are saying he did this to us in purpose?? Damn him!
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
I seriously hope that rumor of 3-4 pieces isn't true. Let's let a new GM do this stuff
- mikel33


I've been listening for the last half hour and haven't heard anything
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
I seriously hope that rumor of 3-4 pieces isn't true. Let's let a new GM do this stuff
- mikel33

Who’s making a trade? They just fired their GM
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
Who’s making a trade? They just fired their GM
- Dkos


Same guy who sent Lyon down. Same guy you have as your avatar.

#GrittyGM
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
I've been listening for the last half hour and haven't heard anything
- ajw12


Anything's possible, but I'm skeptical -- who would even be making the moves? I don't know that Homer's been that involved in the operational side to do something like that

People can mock Homer all they want, but Bill, etc., have said that he hasn't been hands-on for years
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
F Dale Hunter.
- Sinisalo4vr



I don’t think Dale is a fit....but Mark Hunter is a very smart guy, and would be a great choice as the next GM.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:16 PM ET
Definitely have mixed feelings about Hexy being let go. He did a great job stockpiling assets, trading aging players with high cap hits and making some really solid draft picks. However, there were several head scratching maneuvers which I think ultimately led to his firing; goaltending being the biggest blunder. I won't sugar coat it...Hexy screwed the pooch with getting this team a decent goalie that doesn't get injured wiping their a$$ with baby wipes. Carter Hart and Felix Sandstrom may be the goalies of the future, but there are absolutely no guarantees they will be the franchise goalie this organization has been missing for decades.

Other positions of need were largely ignored/not upgraded and not firing Lappy after several consecutive years of an abysmal PK was also another problem not rectified. Rumor has it his inability to relieve Hakstol of his duties was the final nail in the coffin. We'll have to wait and see what happens now! I do wish Hexy all the best!

- aantny88


So the Flyers brass wanted a coaching change and the GM wouldn't do it, so they fired the GM and kept the coach?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
We are in the dark days
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Nov 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
I don’t think Dale is a fit....but Mark Hunter is a very smart guy, and would be a great choice as the next GM.
- landros 2

I should note that I met him and Michel Goulet at a bar in Alexandria Virginia. Goulet bought my then fiancee and myself drinks. Goulet was great and Hunter seemed okay too but I've never gotten over that poop ass cross-check on Pierre Turgeon.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
We are in the dark days
- Just5


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
We are in the dark days
- Just5


Nah -- they'll be fine. They've been killing it at ES

Need a dependable goalie to pair with Elliott, one or two legit defensive forwards to help the PK

They can turn this around if they commit to it -- the talent is there, the assets are there, the cap space is there
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