I'm pretty sure Carter doesn't give a rat's rear. Dude has 2 stanley cup rings

The Kings are my second favorite team and Carter is 100% all business. To a fault in a weird way.
- Doctor DOOM

I'm sure he doesn't now, but he went into full depression mode at the time.

Going to wait to make a judgement like that but if Homer names himself GM.........
- FlyerFan16

That would be terrible on every level.

Honestly, don't reply to my posts. This is a big reason why I rarely ever post on this site anymore. BECAUSE OF YOU!!! You nit pick people's posts to fit whatever narrative you're attempting to support and disregard whatever someone states that you disagree with. Plain and simply, you're a d bag!

Simply stating that there is a rumor doesn't mean I want to speculate whether it has any validity and don't effin tell me what I can and cannot discuss, along with the manner in which I do it.
- aantny88

You can't control what others do and/or say but you can control how you react to it.

Just another day at Flyers inc.
- Just5

Hextall, to me, should've given Laperriere the hook or made a trade

You don't have to like it. But it's the cost of doing business

Now you got your ass fired, everybody else is still here (for now), and for what? For a PK under 70 percent and because you effed up the goaltending over the summer by brining Neuvirth back?

If it's true that Hextall simply ignored requests to change something, then yeah, he probably learned a valuable few lessons today. Because if they gave him an out -- and they probably did, a few times -- sometimes you gotta play the game and save your job

I always hated the phrase, "pick your battles." But in the corporate world, your job is more important that Ian Laperriere's and you probably need to cut him loose to keep yours

Eat poop, Mike
- PhillySportsGuy

thought we were besties

I think a few more seasons and we would start seeing real growth. I think the new GM is going to benefit from what Hextall did here.
- MJL

It's been 40+ years already, what's waiting a couple of more for Hart and some of the forwards to make it?
- FlyerFan16

I believe it would have taken longer than 2-3 years to fix all the holes without any trades. With the possible exception of the goaltending, more holes would continue to form as the core ages. The real problem being the age gap on the roster, 20-30.

The youth we currently have won’t hit their primes for 4-6 years. At which time, even the best vets will be declining. It more likely would take 8 to 10 years to get all the pieces in place without outside acquisitions.

Yeah, I'm not really interested in Holmgren or Lombardi (or Clarke if that's a real thing) but I don't think they're going with someone with no GM experience. The choice will be very telling.
- FlyerFan16

Lombardi did exactly what Hextall was doing with the Kings. Until it was time to make the final moves. The Kings were knocked out on the first round two years in a row before winning the Cup. Fans wanted his head on a platter. Said he was afraid to make trades.

Lombardi did exactly what Hextall was doing with the Kings. Until it was time to make the final moves. The Kings were knocked out on the first round two years in a row before winning the Cup. Fans wanted his head on a platter. Said he was afraid to make trades.
- MJL

They should fire and trade everyone ASAP to eliminate the losing culture all the way down to the parking attendants and janitors

The firing of Ron Hextall in my opinion is so sudden. I don’t think any of us read speculation of Hextall being on the hot seat, nor have we read about GM’s looking for a job. I love the Burke and Keenan jokes because while the suggestion is ridiculous to sign one as GM and the other as coach, I do believe this team could use some truculence. I feel like this team is very soft and easy to match up against.

With all of this said, I think Holmgren is the next in line to take back the GM role. Holmgren once took a bottom feeder Flyers team and turned them into a contender in a matter of months to one year. The youth movement began through him. Holmgren makes things happen.

I believe it would have taken longer than 2-3 years to fix all the holes without any trades. With the possible exception of the goaltending, more holes would continue to form as the core ages. The real problem being the age gap on the roster, 20-30.

The youth we currently have won’t hit their primes for 4-6 years. At which time, even the best vets will be declining. It more likely would take 8 to 10 years to get all the pieces in place without outside acquisitions.
- NC Flyers Fan

I don't think he was against making trades. I think he was against making trades until he thought they were ready to contend for a cup. Similar to how it worked in LA. Lombardi had some of the same complaints. Then traded for Richards and Carter and won a Stanley Cup.

Sometimes it seems the worst right before things start turning. Last year they had a 10 point increase, this year they had some regression. I would have given him the rest of this year and told him next off season he had to start going for it.

Of course, for all I know, they told him that last year and then, didn't do much other than signing JVR.

I'd rather it be more of a critical thinker like Dubas, but that's an impossible ask for this type of organization.
- PhillySportsGuy

I want a hockey guy. No analytics freaks.

Lombardi did exactly what Hextall was doing with the Kings. Until it was time to make the final moves. The Kings were knocked out on the first round two years in a row before winning the Cup. Fans wanted his head on a platter. Said he was afraid to make trades.
- MJL

Lombardi also fired Murray and hired Sutter at the right time, which led to a Cup. Hextall makes this move a month ago, he might still have a job.

I want a hockey guy. No analytics freaks.
- MJL

I doubt Dubas makes decisions without input from his scouts.

Hextall, to me, should've given Laperriere the hook or made a trade

You don't have to like it. But it's the cost of doing business

Now you got your ass fired, everybody else is still here (for now), and for what? For a PK under 70 percent and because you effed up the goaltending over the summer by brining Neuvirth back?

If it's true that Hextall simply ignored requests to change something, then yeah, he probably learned a valuable few lessons today. Because if they gave him an out -- and they probably did, a few times -- sometimes you gotta play the game and save your job

I always hated the phrase, "pick your battles." But in the corporate world, your job is more important that Ian Laperriere's and you probably need to cut him loose to keep yours
- AllInForFlyers

Keep going to back to this angle that Hextall didn't fire anyone so he got fired. I don't think that's it. I think it has to do with exactly what Holmgren said it was. This also not a guy making 100K a year. Hextall is a millionaire with a strong resume and he knows he's going to get another job in hockey. He can afford to stick to his principals.

I doubt Dubas makes decisions without input from his scouts.
- Nucker101

I agree.

I believe it would have taken longer than 2-3 years to fix all the holes without any trades. With the possible exception of the goaltending, more holes would continue to form as the core ages. The real problem being the age gap on the roster, 20-30.

The youth we currently have won’t hit their primes for 4-6 years. At which time, even the best vets will be declining. It more likely would take 8 to 10 years to get all the pieces in place without outside acquisitions.
- NC Flyers Fan

If Hextall's plan was going to take 8-10 years then they made the right decision today. I don't see it taking that long.

I agree.
- MJL

Which GM’s would you categorize as “analytics freaks”?

I want a Cup winning GM and an nhl experienced coach. In my opinion Hitch was an off the board decision by the oilers. Smart choice but off the board. If the Flyers went off the board away from Quenneville and went after Darryl Sutter, I won’t be mad about it. If you buy a gun, make sure it kills. I’ll be happy with John Stevens or Quenneville.

Hextall fired but not the coach?

The (frank)?

Hextall fires but not the coach?

The (frank)?
- 2Real

Did they mention the Hextall firing during a Sharks game?

Did they mention the Hextall firing during a Sharks game?
- Glak18

Did they mention the Hextall firing during a Sharks game?
- Glak18

damn

Gritty for GM

And I could literally see them trading picks and prospects to get back to the cup finals

(and lose).

And within a few years be in cap hell with a depleted farm system.....
- FlyerFan16

I worry about this as well!