No. Being afraid of physicality, and lack of aggressiveness, are inherent personality traits that don't change. They will forever limit Schmaltz from: 1) going to the places where you score, 2) shooting more and 3) winning face-offs.
- BMWChiFan

Nonsense! Little Nicky is headed to Oz as we type!

Looks like Connor Murphy is practicing with the Hawks today. no word as to how close he is to actually returning.

Looks like Connor Murphy is practicing with the Hawks today. no word as to how close he is to actually returning.
- Chunk

Good. Get Ruuta and Manning on the next trade outa here.

Orca, I'm not a fancy stat guy per say but believe they are vital in combination with the eye test. Exhibit A for not putting all your eggs in the fancy basket is the Hawks have been a top 5ish corsi team he last couple yrs. Nuff said.

What am I missing. Despite 63, 64 and 57% Ozone starts the last 3 yrs Schmaltz is a minus relative Corsi and Fenwick the last 3 yrs. These rudimentary stats show he doesn't drive possession and his mates are better when he's not on the ice, no? https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/schmani01.html
- Mr Ricochet

Even with Relative factored in Schmaltz would be an above 50% Corsi player. Did he get a bit of a cakewalk by starting in the offensive zone a lot? Yes.
Is that up to him? No.

Nick was not having a good year, I'm not trying to pretend he was our stud winger so far. However, he's 22.

Patrick Sharp didn't become a Hawk and full time NHL player until he was 23. Duncan Keith also didn't hit the Hawks until he was 22/23. All three went to college for some time, all three spent time in the AHL.

Do I think Schmaltz will be as good as either player, no. Could he be as good as Terravainen? Yes.

And for everyone pointing at how much money he wanted:
-We have no proof that he wanted $6x6
-What else are we going to spend that money on? More Kunitzes and Ruttas?
-You have to pay your young talent these days, you can not acquire young talent without either drafting it or paying a massive premium to the team you're dealing with. Stud players aren't hitting UFA until 28-29 these days, at which point their prime is nearing it's end.

Bowman trades anyone (Danault, Leddy, Saad, Shmaltz, Vinnie, Kempny, Tvr) - forum damn this loser is not worth entry level contract great return, Stan fleeced the other GM.
3 months later-what was he thinking? marco Dano, weisse, Kruger, etc for the guy who is contributing on the other team?
Seriously both players we got back are reclamation projects and there is no indication they will fare better than Marco Dano at this point. Disappointed since they gave up on him too quickly. They do not have cornerstone future players anymore even in potential besides Debrincat.
- vshun

At this point in time, Schmaltz is a reclamation project as well. He's had one strong offensive season. So has Perlini. Strome hasn't proven anything yet aside from underachieving. I'm cautiously optimistic that he can generate more offense with some of the players we have (he has done well playing with ADB in the psat, but granted that was against inferior competition).

Who knows, maybe everyone involved in this trade looks at it in the right way and becomes the best version of themselves. That would be a win for the Hawks, as they would have two good pieces in place of one.

Strome and Anisimov at centre seems pretty slow for today's game. Not sure if true but read Strome is a soft player.
I think overall it's a decent gamble by Bowman either way not a playoff team team this year.
Does anyone know the new Hawks contract situation?
- HamiltonHawk

On Sirius XMjust now - interview with someone from the Arizona media - he took after Strome for his skating, inability to win board battles, and inability to think the game in the ice.

Sounds like the Coyotes has completely given up on him.

So I just got a delivery at my house and it was this sweater my wife bought for me. She said she got it for "Ugly Xmas Sweater" photos. I looked in the mirror and I asked her why she called it ugly?
- breadbag

I'm with you, BB. I would too ask why is the sweater considered ugly?

He didn't say he had inside information. Rick implied, based on their actions, the front office had waited long enough on Schmaltz.
- paulr

And the Yotes felt they waited long enough on Strome and Perlini. Only time will tell, that said found an interesting read on DeBrincat’s and Strome’s playing history:

https://torontosun.com/20...b1-45ce-84f4-4189a5ab5763

Saad Toews Perlini
Cat Strome Kane
Kahun AA Sikura
Kampf Kruger Hayden
- SoftServe

I would welcome this lineup...now about that defense WOOF

I would welcome this lineup...now about that defense WOOF
- Carnage71

Close....

Blackhawks lineup in practice
Saad-Toews-Hayden
DeBrincat-Anisimov-Kane
Fortin-Kampf-Kahun
Kunitz-Strome-Kruger
Martinsen & Perlini rotating in

Keith-Forsling
Manning-Seabrook
Gustafsson-Jokiharju
Murphy-Rutta

Can't imagine Hayden is going to last long up there. Strome and Perlini getting to dip their toes in before being thrown in. We'll see how it shakes out.

Even with Relative factored in Schmaltz would be an above 50% Corsi player. Did he get a bit of a cakewalk by starting in the offensive zone a lot? Yes.
Is that up to him? No.

Nick was not having a good year, I'm not trying to pretend he was our stud winger so far. However, he's 22.

Patrick Sharp didn't become a Hawk and full time NHL player until he was 23. Duncan Keith also didn't hit the Hawks until he was 22/23. All three went to college for some time, all three spent time in the AHL.

Do I think Schmaltz will be as good as either player, no. Could he be as good as Terravainen? Yes.

And for everyone pointing at how much money he wanted:
-We have no proof that he wanted $6x6
-What else are we going to spend that money on? More Kunitzes and Ruttas?
-You have to pay your young talent these days, you can not acquire young talent without either drafting it or paying a massive premium to the team you're dealing with. Stud players aren't hitting UFA until 28-29 these days, at which point their prime is nearing it's end.
- ObeseOprah

Orca, understand I'm not shooting arrows at your position only trying to understand the fancies of the players involved. ....... Put me on record as liking the idea of Perlini being a Hawk the instant I read of the deal. I am and always will be a sucker for the size/speed combo and this kid has that. We'll see the warts the next few games though.

There is a lot to like about Schmaltz #1 being he was the most skilled forward in the organIzation under 23. He's also proven me wrong as I thought after seeing him in jrs he'd never reach the status he has, and he's only 22. 52 points in the bigs at 21 is nothing to sneeze at.

As far as Sharp, or really any player of more than 5-6 yrs ago, the comparison isn't even in that players no longer get the luxury of marinating on the farm as they did only a few yrs ago. I would add though Schmaltz had 2 yrs development at North Dakota..... A GM has to look into his crystal ball and evaluate these 23 yr old on an expiring ELC and make a huge call on money and term. Not enviable.

No we don't know that Schmaltz asked for 6 x 6 but we can reasonably assume whatever he was asking for the Hawks were not comfortable with.

Anyway I like Strome's relative numbers despite the poor Corsi/Fenwik: https://www.hockey-refere.../players/s/stromdy01.html

Perlini's fancies aren't exciting: https://www.hockey-refere.../players/p/perlibr01.html

I was a big Schmaltz supporter but I like the trade. I don't see him as a top 6 center. He is a pass first wing.

He has elite speed and good hands but I didn't see any improvement this year. If he wanted a big contract the Hawks were correct in moving him.

I don't agree with the Schmaltz bashing or that he was responsible for what was wrong with the Hawks but I also don't agree with those saying he has elite talent. The only elite talent he has is his skating and his lack of physicality reduces that.

I don't agree the Hawks got any slower Perlini will fill in nicely and bring high end speed with size. People need to remember how crappy of an organization the Yotes are. Have they developed anyone in the last 10 years? Outside of OEL?
- bhawks2241

No they haven't. And our genius GM keeps trading chips from our team that might turn into something in time, for players from a team that is a perennial bottom feeder who has not drafted and developed anyone since OEL, and Domi if you count what he is doing in Montreal, despite a ton of high draft picks.

They need to fire Bowman before he completely dismantles this team. The bright side is this deal if it goes south, after the Panarin deal and the Hammer deal, should seal his fate.

I agree with those saying the new NHL is all about speed. And generally, we gave up too soon on Teuvo, Hino, and now Schmaltz. Should have signed him to a bridge deal for a couple years to see what his fully developed body at 22-23-24 years old could do in the NHL, like Teuvo now.

So he wanted more money than we were comfortable with? So what? He is an RFA. He could sit out and make nothing or play on our terms. Look at Toronto with Nylander. Why are we afraid of imposing our will in these negotiations with young players? That desire for cost certainty instead of negotiating a good deal caused us to make two really crappy deals last off season.

The sooner we get new management the better.

To me, this screams that AA is on his way out. Strome is essentially the same profile except wins draws and exchanges track record for ceiling.

Close....

Blackhawks lineup in practice
Saad-Toews-Hayden
DeBrincat-Anisimov-Kane
Fortin-Kampf-Kahun
Kunitz-Strome-Kruger
Martinsen & Perlini rotating in

Keith-Forsling
Manning-Seabrook
Gustafsson-Jokiharju
Murphy-Rutta

Can't imagine Hayden is going to last long up there. Strome and Perlini getting to dip their toes in before being thrown in. We'll see how it shakes out.
- Chunk

Hayden should not be on the top line, he's looked like he's skating in mashed potatoes the last couple weeks. Maybe they're going for a heavy cycle game with them.

And unfortunately for everyone, Anisimov can only contribute when he's on a line with Kane. I guess we're stuck watching Kane drag the Piano [dragging] Man up the ice until Stan can get rid of him.

Crap.... I've been out of touch for 7 hours--no power...10 inches of snow. Trees down..
First I'm hearing of the trade....

To me, this screams that AA is on his way out. Strome is essentially the same profile except wins draws and exchanges track record for ceiling.
- Bjm84

I will take time off work and drive Anisimov to the airport if this is possible. I might even stop for White Castle if he tells me a couple good Tortorella stories.

No they haven't. And our genius GM keeps trading chips from our team that might turn into something in time, for players from a team that is a perennial bottom feeder who has not drafted and developed anyone since OEL, and Domi if you count what he is doing in Montreal, despite a ton of high draft picks.

They need to fire Bowman before he completely dismantles this team. The bright side is this deal if it goes south, after the Panarin deal and the Hammer deal, should seal his fate.

I agree with those saying the new NHL is all about speed. And generally, we gave up too soon on Teuvo, Hino, and now Schmaltz. Should have signed him to a bridge deal for a couple years to see what his fully developed body at 22-23-24 years old could do in the NHL, like Teuvo now.

So he wanted more money than we were comfortable with? So what? He is an RFA. He could sit out and make nothing or play on our terms. Look at Toronto with Nylander. Why are we afraid of imposing our will in these negotiations with young players? That desire for cost certainty instead of negotiating a good deal caused us to make two really crappy deals last off season.

The sooner we get new management the better.
- hereismike1

What you say isn’t fair but we don’t know what schmaltz was looking for$$$ wise it’s easy to say sign him to a bridge deal but if he goes the Nylander way and sits out it only hurts what value he has. Tt was the cost to remove nickels contract. I see the legend of Hinostroza continues to grow we have /had fortin here to replace him. Hino playing top line minutes in at doesn’t mean he should be

I think JC will be much more mentoring coach to our two new players. He was not playing Strome on the right line, and Domi is flourishing after he went to Habs. It seems their diehard fans on the boards in Arizona feel that Hawks have gained on this transactions

The Hockey Buzz bingo card loses the "Schmaltz is Charmin soft" square. "Strome is slow" might replace it, given some of the commentary thus far.

I wish I could give an educated assessment on this trade. I really don't know who won it. I do believe change of scene trades like these are necessary when things are not working. Just keep rummaging and you increase the chance of finding something, anything, that clicks.

It's possible that this trade will be looked at as a total nonevent a few years from now. It's also possible that this trade will be a positive for both clubs. And it's certainly possible that one club will come out ahead in this. In any event, the dice have been thrown, and we hope for the best. All we can do right now.

What you say isn’t fair but we don’t know what schmaltz was looking for$$$ wise it’s easy to say sign him to a bridge deal but if he goes the Nylander way and sits out it only hurts what value he has. Tt was the cost to remove nickels contract. I see the legend of Hinostroza continues to grow we have /had fortin here to replace him. Hino playing top line minutes in at doesn’t mean he should be
- Abadseed

Hino was a useful bottom 6 player and would be better than anyone in our bottom six right now. Not a legend but useful. So glad we gave him away to get that Hossa cap space that we are using for......NOTHING. Oh yeah, we needed it to extend Schmaltz right?

My point is who cares what Schmaltz wanted for money? The team has control until he is a UFA. Nylander's trade value was hurt by sitting out? Are you kidding? The Hawks act like they are afraid to play hardball in any negotiation. When is the last even good market value deal they got done?

By the way, Fortin sucks at everything except skating fast, in case you haven't noticed.

Bad news for Gus, the OCD Hawk Fan posse will set their sites on you now that 8 is gone.

Strome, make sure you hit the town hard the next few days. Your love and admiration, based on nothing, will never be higher.

Does anyone realize that Coyote fans are celebrating kicking their bust down the road for a guy who can actually skate?

But by all means, carry on.

To me, this screams that AA is on his way out. Strome is essentially the same profile except wins draws and exchanges track record for ceiling.
- Bjm84

Solid analysis....

I guess we got a #11 and #17 for jerseys.

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Dylan Strome (No. 17) and Brendan Perlini (No. 11) join Blackhawks practice in the middle of it (they just arrived). They're greeted with stick-taps.
- breadbag

Nice thanks. Was wondering if anyone had heard what numbers they would be wearing

Bad news for Gus, the OCD Hawk Fan posse will set their sites on you now that 8 is gone.

Strome, make sure you hit the town hard the next few days. Your love and admiration, based on nothing, will never be higher.

Does anyone realize that Coyote fans are celebrating kicking their bust down the road for a guy who can actually skate?

But by all means, carry on.
- TrueGrit

That should tell you all you need to know...........

Say what you will about Tanner but he laid out the positives of Strome before the trade, mostly his linemates are 4th liners. https://www.hockeybuzz.co...t_id=96079&blogger_id=200