I do think it did. Question is how much? ........ We all know Hawks love speed/skill and that's Schmaltz. Is it they realized he'd never be a center? Combination of things? ...... Is this more a dump of Schmaltz or that they coveted Strome and Perlini? ..... Any chance the Hawks insisted Perlini had to be in the deal? ...... No doubting this saves cap money for next yr. Combine that with the cap money Stan has banked is he angling for something big?
- Mr Ricochet

He's getting McJesus so he can put the band back together

most of this board is wetting itself over this trade...everyone whipping boy is now gone...but you really think they solved their top 6 problems with these 2 guys in return???...if it happens its the trade of the decade...

however most likely it doesn't...

looks to me like nothing more than a swap of under performers...
- bogiedoc

Begs the question, who now becomes the whipping boy?

Don't worry though folks, roster is still full of them.

Like the trade though, just no way you could give Schmaltz a long term deal, or eventually lose him for nothing.

WOW. On the surface this looks like a hell of a deal for the Hawks. Bowman with a bit of a comeback move here. That said, I temper my enthusiasm until i see the actual results. I liked the Saad and Hammer trades at the time (not because I wanted to get rid of Hammer or Panarin, but because of dynamics) and those trades have turned into real clunkers. Strome has potential, but can't skate that well and has bust written all over him. Perlini is interesting. I think Strome is gravy, if he somehow develops into a top 9 center the Hawks win this trade by a mile, but I am not holding my breath on Strome, but I'll give it a chance. I put Perlini and Strome in the top 9 and leave them alone. See what we got.

What it is, is on one hand a balsy trade

Each a former #1. Each their GM by moving them - just know each been underwhelming/not reached their ceiling or come close to it - so the GM has a blemish on his drafting record

Ironic or telltale regarding their scouting and draft. Bowman has a committee input but ultimately he - not Mark Kelly, the long time head scout, calls off the drafted player,'s name

What this trade reveals, furthermore, is willingness to accept you are not stubbornly holding on to your top choice no matter what
Recollection is TT also changed address.

Ok, so now you have a big physical type in Petlini
At least he.is pegged as such. In Strome a talented but not more than average skater.

Well with Strome I will just say this,: I do not see him to go on to become a point per have offensive weapon. But regards his skating,; hey Tavarrz is not a speedster either. His skating will always be a source of constant critique, as in when in each game does Colliton reduce his TOI

So we await the new guys impact. perlini net front presence? Kane make either a scorer?

I will guess that bothskr us better than how Schmaltz does here.

Meanwhile Schmaltz joins Keller, Galyenchuk, their center #1 2018 plus second trombone Hinostroza. I don't see toughness up front in Arizona line up - Panic is industrious I suppose. But get this; the Coyotes have been trmatksblu better in the point column this season. Why? Perhaps improbrmr t in roles and they possess mobile defense

Which we need both to happen yonr proud Blackhawks again

For some being I feel better about the next impact forward derives from the 2019 draft as long as Bowman does not select another Schmaltz. I am not expecting the Yeo rebirs not Edjsell to be the answer to top do , although sllcoulf nrcomr nice pieces
I like Sikura still more and the #1 2019 more

things just got more interesting
Iconhtayulsyr Bowman for bring balsy; I do not fwell om the Schmaltz and TT picks. We move on. Speaking of moving along, I predict Murphy, Gus, and Crawford will become headlights too.
- jhawk59

Not trying to be critical, but would it be possible for you to proofread before posting so that others can understand what you're trying to say?

WOW. On the surface this looks like a hell of a deal for the Hawks. Bowman with a bit of a comeback move here. That said, I temper my enthusiasm until i see the actual results. I liked the Saad and Hammer trades at the time (not because I wanted to get rid of Hammer or Panarin, but because of dynamics) and those trades have turned into real clunkers. Strome has potential, but can't skate that well and has bust written all over him. Perlini is interesting. I think Strome is gravy, if he somehow develops into a top 9 center the Hawks win this trade by a mile, but I am not holding my breath on Strome, but I'll give it a chance. I put Perlini and Strome in the top 9 and leave them alone. See what we got.
- kwolf68

Still say the jury is out on both of those. Murphy wasn't bad and maybe plays even better in a bit different system. I liked Hammer and yes he can block shots but apparently still has issues clearing his zone which was happening a lot as he got older with the Hawks.

The Saad we all wanted back in that trade is resurfacing and if that's the case I see that trade as a push...win for both clubs and maybe a bit better for CLB, but not a clunker. Certainly not the 2nd worst trade or higher depending on the time of day and amount of alcohol/weed consumed by the poster.

Love this trade because I've always hated Schmaltz. He's never shown any heart and shows no willingness to get hit to make a play. Strome gets compared to Joe Thorton because his skill bit lack of speed. If he can be harder on the puck like joe he will succeed in the nhl. Perlini dont know much about him but he played in a horrible organization. I feel sorry for tocchet with the roster he has they still dont have a fm.
As for the games been very disappointed in hayden he needs to be more physical no fights just 1 goal 4 pims -8 in 16 games. Only one check haley played a way better game for Florida him and martinsen need to pick up their physical games.
Nice to see Manning drop the gloves he's not great at it but not burish colin Fraser bad. Brought some energy to the team but man is he bad defensively. We could of got Kurtis Mcdermaid for free on waivers at half the cost he's way better.
Only other notes from the game against fla Gustafson also bad defensively joki is gonna be a stud and thank God kunitz was out. Didnt watch the Tampa bay game but looking at both teams lineups no need to watch was sure it was gonna be a boring soccer on ice matchup which it was. 11 hits as a team? Paquette throwing his weight around without any repercussions. Looking forward to Tuesday hopefully someone lights up reaves with a hit because we know no one will fight him.
- vandymeer23

Well, one alternative, if they need to add a player that brings that element, I don’t even know at this point in his career if he’s even interested anymore is Lucic, I am only saying that because there are those that want to get rid of Seabrooks contract even though we are thin on the back line with someone who will be willing to play the body, Lucic ,I think will be only 34 years old when his contract is up.
Maybe he does better under Ken Hitchcock, because Hitch likes that element in the game.
Players like that don’t grow on trees anymore, and Washington I don’t think it’s trading Tom Wilson anytime soon. And as much as I think John Hayden could play somewhat of a roll, I don’t think he actually could stand in with the Ryan Reeves and Tom Wilson’s of the game when it comes to fighting.I think he would get pounded.
The Darkhorse, could be Connor Murphy, wasn’t he supposed to be the Josh Manson type potential player that we were supposed to be getting from Phoenix

While I don't think he has done nothing, we know Schmaltz had a rough first quarter of this year.

They are gambling that they will get more out of the two they picked up. That remains to be seen. Strome could very well still turn out to be a bust. I know Arizona has expected more out of him because of how we'll he did play in Jr and he hasn't lived up to expectations yet. Obviously we hope he does, but they didn't give up nothing here.
- breadbag

What they gave up is a depreciating asset whose value is going to take a real nosedive after he plays in his next playoff series who also demands a long contract. Which ever team holds his upcoming contract about two years from now most likely will not be happy about it. Schmaltz could go the way of TT and grow a pair, but he wasn't going to do it here. I see Schmaltz as a guy who deep down is glad he's going to a place with nice weather, not as a guy who would go anywhere to win a cup. Have a nice day, just do it somewhere else.

*NEW* blog up: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=96183

Still say the jury is out on both of those. Murphy wasn't bad and maybe plays even better in a bit different system. I liked Hammer and yes he can block shots but apparently still has issues clearing his zone which was happening a lot as he got older with the Hawks.

The Saad we all wanted back in that trade is resurfacing and if that's the case I see that trade as a push...win for both clubs and maybe a bit better for CLB, but not a clunker. Certainly not the 2nd worst trade or higher depending on the time of day and amount of alcohol/weed consumed by the poster.
- HawkintheD

Seriously, I think Hammer gives what we lack, quality defensemen blue line back in our own zone. He played a lot of hard, tough miles, so I could see moving him, but the return -so far- has not looked good. But yea, Murphy is still young, there is potential there, but so far it has not been realized. EVERY team in the NHL has guys with potential, the ones who win are full of players who have reached that potential (see Hawks 2010, 2013), right now the Hawks are full of hopes and dreams players for the most part. Combined with aging, declining core players it's still a team loaded with questions, even though many of us (including me) are excited about what two players brought in from Arizona (with potential) can bring to the table.

[quote=bogiedoc]most of this board is wetting itself over this trade...everyone whipping boy is now gone...

Give it time. We will find another whipping boy for the board. We always do.

I don’t see any AHL stats for Strome; Perlini had 17 games in Tucson - 19 points.
- StLBravesFan

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/dylan-strome