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philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Nov 26 @ 12:55 AM ET
Was just about to post this. Strome said Dcat is his best friend to this day. Exact words......... We know we're gonna see a happy Strome to start. That's good.
- Mr Ricochet


Dylan sounded great in that pod Rico.....hopefully the move does him/us well
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 26 @ 12:56 AM ET
Hawks taking a gamble. Time will tell if it pays off, but for now we traded a player from our top 6 for two guys who were 3rd/4th liner minutes for the Yotes. Two bodies coming in pushes someone else out of the lineup. Don't think this will be any immediate help to the team, but they gained some size. I half wonder if this is related to contract talks with Schmaltz more than anything else.
- breadbag

It ain't much of a gamble when the guy they moved is doing nothing for them and they look at their roster and come to the realization that at best they finish 6th in the Central with what they have currently.

Hockey Ops gave up on Schmaltz plain and simple. Good riddance
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Nov 26 @ 12:57 AM ET
There are 2 r words that should never be used, and that is 1 of them. Remodel, hahaha. I think another in season trade will be made, but I have no clue when, maybe when Murphy and/or Davidson are in the picture again. I never saw this one coming! As far as turning the season around ... we aren't too far out, but the d needs to greatly improve/play consistently. I expect good things ... or Stan will personally hear from me, haha.
- I Am The Breadman


Oh, I know we aren't too far out, but they way we have played D lately doesn't inspire much confidence. We've won some games when the goalies stand on their head and we look good at times against some struggling teams, but I'm just saying I don't think they made this trade because they figure it will make a big difference this year. This seems like one of these things we revisit in 3 seasons to see how it turned out for real.

I keep thinking now that these last 6 months are all playing towards the next year or 2. They didn't bite on anything long term for UFAs this summer. Just stop gaps. They fired Q and they are now changing some fundamental systems for the team. Now this trade. Seems like they wanna make a splash next year.

Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Nov 26 @ 12:59 AM ET
In theory, it’s a 2 for 1 trade on young top 6 projected forwards. The highly touted/drafted true Center in Strome with Kane/Cat is very exciting
- EnzoD

Balls deep in love with this trade and I’ll be damned if Perlini doesnt sound like he’s from Londontown. Not many gents from the UK in the NHL!
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:00 AM ET
Oh, I know we aren't too far out, but they way we have played D lately doesn't inspire much confidence. We've won some games when the goalies stand on their head and we look good at times against some struggling teams, but I'm just saying I don't think they made this trade because they figure it will make a big difference this year. This seems like one of these things we revisit in 3 seasons to see how it turned out for real.

I keep thinking now that these last 6 months are all playing towards the next year or 2. They didn't bite on anything long term for UFAs this summer. Just stop gaps. They fired Q and they are now changing some fundamental systems for the team. Now this trade. Seems like they wanna make a splash next year.

- breadbag



I have a feeling more trades will be coming over the next few months.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:00 AM ET
I havent looked to see who will be available (would love to see Panarin, although unlikely), but I am very thankful that I will no longer worry about seeing 6x6 next to Nick Schmaltz name.
- frafra


I'm in the camp that the Hawks have a dearth of skill in the system and no doubt Schmaltz has that skill. I'm also in the camp that I'm scared shi%less about committing 6 mil and term to the guy. If he could play a legit center I'd feel better about Schmaltz but I don't think he's an NHL center ...... As you mention that is no longer a concern although we do swap out one concern for another.

For those that have been here for awhile know I was screaming inside of 1 minute after they drafted him when Fabbri was still on the board. Watched the kid in jrs play like we saw him here with the Hawks but his defense improved tremendously since jrs.

Will he be another TT? Move on and find his game? Maybe and I'm ok with that cuz as you mention there is a LOT if risk giving him 6 X 6.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:01 AM ET
Hopefully Eklund called Tanner to make sure he was still breathing after this trade. He's been hyping Dylan Strome for years New Hot Take: Strome sucks, Schmaltz is Gretzky'esque
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Nov 26 @ 1:01 AM ET
It ain't much of a gamble when the guy they moved is doing nothing for them and they look at their roster and come to the realization that at best they finish 6th in the Central with what they have currently.

Hockey Ops gave up on Schmaltz plain and simple. Good riddance

- RickJ


While I don't think he has done nothing, we know Schmaltz had a rough first quarter of this year.

They are gambling that they will get more out of the two they picked up. That remains to be seen. Strome could very well still turn out to be a bust. I know Arizona has expected more out of him because of how we'll he did play in Jr and he hasn't lived up to expectations yet. Obviously we hope he does, but they didn't give up nothing here.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Nov 26 @ 1:03 AM ET
Oh, I know we aren't too far out, but they way we have played D lately doesn't inspire much confidence. We've won some games when the goalies stand on their head and we look good at times against some struggling teams, but I'm just saying I don't think they made this trade because they figure it will make a big difference this year. This seems like one of these things we revisit in 3 seasons to see how it turned out for real.

I keep thinking now that these last 6 months are all playing towards the next year or 2. They didn't bite on anything long term for UFAs this summer. Just stop gaps. They fired Q and they are now changing some fundamental systems for the team. Now this trade. Seems like they wanna make a splash next year.

- breadbag


I understand now. Yeah, definitely a trade to analyze down the road. Hopefully, this is SB showing his proactive side. As far as your last point, I would love to take part on the excitement and fun of July 1st.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:03 AM ET
Dylan sounded great in that pod Rico.....hopefully the move does him/us well
- philco28


Did Stan just trade a smurf for two legit 6’3 guys?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:07 AM ET
Balls deep in love with this trade and I’ll be damned if Perlini doesnt sound like he’s from Londontown. Not many gents from the UK in the NHL!
- Assman22


He was born in the UK but moved to Canada when he was 10-11 and he’s Canadian now.

JL commented that the Hawks were getting more Canadian with their free agent signings this off season. That trend continues with Perlini and Strome (who is from my home town).
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Nov 26 @ 1:08 AM ET
I understand now. Yeah, definitely a trade to analyze down the road. Hopefully, this is SB showing his proactive side. As far as your last point, I would love to take part on the excitement and fun of July 1st.
- I Am The Breadman


We need another Hossa like signing.

There are some names that could be decent/okay UFAs.

Stone
Karlsson
Eberle
Duchene
Pavelski
Panarin
Skinner
Edler
Gardiner
Stralman
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 26 @ 1:10 AM ET
Yes and the continuing decline in Anisimov’s effectiveness made a top 6 center a huge hole. Perhaps Perlini-Toews-Saad for the
power cycle line

- EnzoD


How long have the Hawks needed a legit L2 center? 10-12 yrs? I don't blame any Hawk fan for being really excited at the thought the 3rd overall, 6ft 3 in, 200+lb, 2 points per game in the OHL, 1 point per game in the AHL, Strome being that guy at 21 yrs old.

What I'm gonna watch for is his floor. Hell a legit 3C with size who can play shut down and win a draw is a great thing to have.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:11 AM ET
I'm in the camp that the Hawks have a dearth of skill in the system and no doubt Schmaltz has that skill. I'm also in the camp that I'm scared shi%less about committing 6 mil and term to the guy. If he could play a legit center I'd feel better about Schmaltz but I don't think he's an NHL center ...... As you mention that is no longer a concern although we do swap out one concern for another.

For those that have been here for awhile know I was screaming inside of 1 minute after they drafted him when Fabbri was still on the board. Watched the kid in jrs play like we saw him here with the Hawks but his defense improved tremendously since jrs.

Will he be another TT? Move on and find his game? Maybe and I'm ok with that cuz as you mention there is a LOT if risk giving him 6 X 6.

- Mr Ricochet


I look at this deal this way also...is Strome can pan out, you get younger, cheaper, and better at center. Making Anisimov even more expendable; although not sure how many teams are super hot for Arty right now. What I am curious to see is what Debrincats next contract looks like. I dont think it'll be as big as many would guess. If Schmaltz turns into something greater now, good for him. Hawks cant pay him to be something hes not
They simply cannot afford any more massive contracts in which production doesnt match pay.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Nov 26 @ 1:11 AM ET
We need another Hossa like signing.

There are some names that could be decent/okay UFAs.

Stone
Karlsson
Eberle
Duchene
Pavelski
Panarin
Skinner
Edler
Gardiner
Stralman

- breadbag


E-man won't like that Lee and Nelson aren't on there.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:13 AM ET
How long have the Hawks needed a legit L2 center? 10-12 yrs? I don't blame any Hawk fan for being really excited at the thought the 3rd overall, 6ft 3 in, 200+lb, 2 points per game in the OHL, 1 point per game in the AHL, Strome being that guy at 21 yrs old.

What I'm gonna watch for is his floor. Hell a legit 3C with size who can play shut down and win a draw is a great thing to have.

- Mr Ricochet


Saad-Toews-Cat
Perlini-Strome-Kane


I think playing Strome with Kane is a great way to ease him into a new team. Hard to name 3 wingers you'd like over Kane as a Center-man in 2018.
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:13 AM ET
We need another Hossa like signing.

There are some names that could be decent/okay UFAs.

Stone
Karlsson
Eberle
Duchene
Pavelski
Panarin
Skinner
Edler
Gardiner
Stralman

- breadbag


Stone or Panarin would be my first choices. I think Matt Duchene would be a nice player with the Hawks.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:17 AM ET
Saad-Toews-Cat
Perlini-Strome-Kane


I think playing Strome with Kane is a great way to ease him into a new team. Hard to name 3 wingers you'd like over Kane as a Center-man in 2018.

- EnzoD

wondering if Perlini can play both wings or is best on LW only
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:18 AM ET
E-man won't like that Lee and Nelson aren't on there.
- I Am The Breadman


You mean Anders Lee? The former 6th overall pick, age 28, Captain of the Islanders, standing 6'3" 231lbs coming off a 40 goal season and averages 29 goals per 82 games played over his NHL career.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 26 @ 1:19 AM ET
most of this board is wetting itself over this trade...everyone whipping boy is now gone...but you really think they solved their top 6 problems with these 2 guys in return???...if it happens its the trade of the decade...

however most likely it doesn't...

looks to me like nothing more than a swap of under performers...
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:21 AM ET
I look at this deal this way also...is Strome can pan out, you get younger, cheaper, and better at center. Making Anisimov even more expendable; although not sure how many teams are super hot for Arty right now. What I am curious to see is what Debrincats next contract looks like. I dont think it'll be as big as many would guess. If Schmaltz turns into something greater now, good for him. Hawks cant pay him to be something hes not
They simply cannot afford any more massive contracts in which production doesnt match pay.

- frafra

AA for Tom Wilson straight up
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Nov 26 @ 1:22 AM ET
You mean Anders Lee? The former 6th overall pick, age 28, Captain of the Islanders, standing 6'3" 231lbs coming off a 40 goal season and averages 29 goals per 82 games played over his NHL career.
- EnzoD


No, his brother Bruce. But I can see your confusion, haha.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:25 AM ET
most of this board is wetting itself over this trade...everyone whipping boy is now gone...but you really think they solved their top 6 problems with these 2 guys in return???...if it happens its the trade of the decade...

however most likely it doesn't...

looks to me like nothing more than a swap of under performers...

- bogiedoc


Hawks traded Gustafson too

What time was this trade announced? Enough time for Strome and Perlini to play Tuesday night?

2 for 1 trade, potentially address 2C, and another middle 6 power forward in Perlini for also under-performing Schmaltz
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 26 @ 1:26 AM ET
AA for Tom Wilson straight up
- Assman22


For the Tom Wilson haters out there....Caps are like 8-2 since Wilson came back from suspension. He's not going anywhere, unfortunately.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 26 @ 1:30 AM ET
most of this board is wetting itself over this trade...everyone whipping boy is now gone...but you really think they solved their top 6 problems with these 2 guys in return???...if it happens its the trade of the decade...

however most likely it doesn't...

looks to me like nothing more than a swap of under performers...

- bogiedoc


I’m reserving judgement on this deal. I think Perlini helps improve the bottom 6 but both Schmaltz and Strome are big question marks so it will take time to see how that part of the deal works out.

But more importantly... what numbers will the new additions wear? I’m guessing Perlini sticks with #11 and Strome goes with #91.
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