while it may feel good to spout it off, but how on Gods earth is a "front office shake up" going to do anything at this point? Seriously?

The team is currently engaged in a process, which is much to slow for fans and which most could not begin to understand.

Q is gone, players under contract are going to be given a chance to to adapt. Not 3 games, but a month or so. At some point there will be some movement and decisions. I do not think we will see the fan favorite "Getzlaff" type trades, but the organization will add pieces that fit the modern NHL. And more importantly part ways with players that do not fit the system or the way the game is played today.

I wonder if Dayley and Kempny ever sent Q a thank you card for helping them win a cup? I really thought obtaining Rob Scuderi was a steal and would pay huge dividends come the playoffs, should Rosival not be able to play.

Lets count Keith and Gus turnovers tonight, my guess is, like most nights, Keith may win the competition. Gus was no
- TrueGrit

Is it? Is there a process and who is in charge of it? Not questioning you, in fact gun to my head would agree, but the concern is who's overseeing this process/evaluation and now that Q is gone is Stan being evaluated as his roster under a new coach tries to even be competitive.

Oh, I liked the Scuderi add too.

Interesting who Colliton had put there for the game winner - Kampf-Schmaltz-Gus.
- StLBravesFan

You have an Athletic subscription, no? Think I read in there how much JC loved Kampf down in RKF. That he played him in all situations and was predictable for him earning his trust. .......... And Gus put up a lot of points under JC too.

I get the frustration with Goose. I really do.

But ultimately, there isn't ANYONE else on the team I would rather have shoot the puck from the blue line/perimeter than him. Unlike Keith, his shot doesn't find shin pads. Unlike Seabs, his shot doesn't find the glass behind the net. Unlike Joker, he doesn't look for another open pass/hesitate. He just fires the puck, and good things happen.

I understand his defensive miscues. I understand his frequent lapse of judgment defensively. But ultimately, he's only had 100 games at the NHL level. That's barely more than one full season. There's a reason why JC has been utilizing him more since taking over. It's because he too sees the potential. Even if Goose turns into a Justin Faulk-type player, that's still quite a useful asset.

We can't just assume that the young kids (Boq, Beaudin, Mitchell, Krys, etc.) are all just going to trickle in and contribute. You need regulars at the NHL level, and the team needs to develop the players they CURRENTLY have on the roster.

Speaking of, man has Forsling looked good as well.

Between Joker, Forsling, and Goose... the foundation of our "next generation" of defense-men is already in place, and it's nice to see.
- TommyHawk

The whole post is very good IMO and agree but to the bolded I'd add I'd rather see Gus skate it out and up more than any Hawk Dman save for maybe Forsling.

Posted before this tilt I'm more a Gus guy than most any poster here understanding his shortcomings. The guy can skate and shoot, very good offensive reads off the rush that breaks defenses down.

No you do NOT turn the puck over at the attack blueline but is it his fault that THREE Hawks are along the boards leaving McCann wide open in the high slot after his turnover? ..... And it was so blatant you could see the positioning blunder in real time and didn't need Eddie's marker afterwards to point it out.

Context is needed for some of Gus's blunders.

One Gus should not have turned over the puck deep in the offensive zone. Two he should actually then bust his butt to get back into the play. Three Joki should NOT be against the boards taking himself out of the play so that now NO D-MEN are defending the break in. “Man on Man” does not mean stupidly chase the puck - and remember Joki actually didn’t have a chance to win the puck and in fact did NOT win the puck.

That the forwards didn’t miraculously save the crazy D-Men is far down the List.
- Z3Hawk

I agree with what you say, so then I have a question. Shouldn't Hayden and/or Fortin have treated the oncoming attacker as anyone else and checked him, instead of Jokiharju, who was going to and did lose the puck?

Johnson has been assigned to Rockford. I like the kid’s game but if he’s not ready to play regularly he should be in Rockford.

The whole post is very good IMO and agree but to the bolded I'd add I'd rather see Gus skate it out and up more than any Hawk Dman save for maybe Forsling.

Posted before this tilt I'm more a Gus guy than most any poster here understanding his shortcomings. The guy can skate and shoot, very good offensive reads off the rush that breaks defenses down.

No you do NOT turn the puck over at the attack blueline but is it his fault that THREE Hawks are along the boards leaving McCann wide open in the high slot after his turnover? ..... And it was so blatant you could see the positioning blunder in real time and didn't need Eddie's marker afterwards to point it out.

Context is needed for some of Gus's blunders.
- Mr Ricochet

How's this for context: Game 7 vs Blues, 11 minutes left - Gus dipsi-doodle turnover - ballgame - series over.

I'm here for you, Z. That YOU personally never ever ever dreamed Bovquist would fall to 8th despite studying up on him, his brother and his family is just not logical or more importantly reasonable.

Took just one Google search on mocks or rankings BEFORE the 2018 draft to see Bob McKenzie, you know Bob right Z, has Boqvuist at 10 and the four scouts he works with had him anywhere from 5th to 14th but never in a million yrs did you see him available at 8???? https://www.tsn.ca/kc-1.1115400

Just a smell test thing for me, Z. Not here to bust your chops or troll you but you are on top the highest of mountain tops screaming your convictions and honestly this one, and your post, doesn't pass the smell test.

I'll be here as well in 10 yrs for you too when hopefully Bovquist hits 70 points, and is a -11, and you claim you wanted him all along.

And no man who's mortgage payment and kids' college fund depends on his accuracy is going to take a kid, Merkley, who was sent home by his jr team multiple times for disciplinary reasons anywhere near the middle or top of the 1st rd. Many wouldn't take that same kid in the 5th even though he has top 5 talent.

You and I can though cuz it matters as much what we do as what I just flushed down the toilet this morning but that ain't true for a guy who draws a check, makes a living, from an NHL club.
- Mr Ricochet

Probably the most talented player not named Dahlin in the draft. He will turn out to be a steal at 8 if his brain doesnt get too rattled.

Saad was a predicted top 5 pick before he tweaked his groin and fell to the Hawks.

DeBrincat fell to the second some how.

NHL scouting is weird.

I think at the high end he ends up being a Letang or OEL type player. At the low maybe a Yandle. The kids going to produce and be a very good player and a type of player the Hawks haven't had since the resurgence.

@ByScottPowers
I sat down with Stan Bowman last night and discussed everything from fans’ anger with him to why he traded Marian Hossa’s contract when he did to whether he plans to utilize his cap space to Nick Schmaltz’s contract to much more

https://theathletic.com/6...and-ignoring-his-critics/

If you don't have an Athletic subscription, but are keenly interested in what he has to say about something specific, I can paraphrase StanBo's response.

ETA: the way he talks about Colliton and what he is trying to do, it sounds like coaching by committee. UGH
- pdx2ord

I don't have an Athletic subscription, and I try to like Stain and understand the moves that he makes, but if it is like how you paraphrased then I might end up not liking him. Him and Q should have left the same time. Thank you for the link though.

I agree with what you say, so then I have a question. Shouldn't Hayden and/or Fortin have treated the oncoming attacker as anyone else and checked him, instead of Jokiharju, who was going to and did lose the puck?
- I Am The Breadman

My opinion, Joki knocks the puck away from Scevior you hear great gap and close. ....... Joki has the play in FRONT of him, he sees TWO forwards right there to COVER for him so he SMARTLY tightens then closes his gap on the PUCK. This fan thinks Joki made a great read a play that veterans make and he's 19 yrs old. Great play IMO considering the context, context being the play was in front of him and saw help so as the CLOSEST defender to the puck and puck carrier he made a play on it. Gimme more of this not less.

You've heard take away time and space? That is exactly what the 19 yr old did and did not do it recklessly as he saw he had help from TWO teammates.

@ByScottPowers
I sat down with Stan Bowman last night and discussed everything from fans’ anger with him to why he traded Marian Hossa’s contract when he did to whether he plans to utilize his cap space to Nick Schmaltz’s contract to much more

https://theathletic.com/6...and-ignoring-his-critics/

If you don't have an Athletic subscription, but are keenly interested in what he has to say about something specific, I can paraphrase StanBo's response.

ETA: the way he talks about Colliton and what he is trying to do, it sounds like coaching by committee. UGH
- pdx2ord

I just read this article. Great read. Another reason way Scott is the best out there, he asked some great questions.

Read this if you can.

How's this for context: Game 7 vs Blues, 11 minutes left - Gus dipsi-doodle turnover - ballgame - series over.
- BMWChiFan

In his 50th NHL game? Indeed, context!............. I'm from the school you put a 300lb man in center field and scratch your head when he doesn't get to balls in the gap it's your fault not the 300 pounders.

Johnson has been assigned to Rockford. I like the kid’s game but if he’s not ready to play regularly he should be in Rockford.
- DarthKane

I know he was your boy. Honestly, what did JC give him, 2 games? Rockford needs all the help it can get with so many people injured.

I don't have an Athletic subscription, and I try to like Stain and understand the moves that he makes, but if it is like how you paraphrased then I might end up not liking him. Him and Q should have left the same time. Thank you for the link though.
- I Am The Breadman

He did say that Colliton can "absolutely" choose his own assistants next year if he sees fit. Colliton is on a multi-year deal - specific terms undisclosed.

Stan mentioned that Kunitz and Manning, in particular, were brought in as the type of players that Q preferred to have on the team.

Probably the most talented player not named Dahlin in the draft. He will turn out to be a steal at 8 if his brain doesnt get too rattled.

Saad was a predicted top 5 pick before he tweaked his groin and fell to the Hawks.

DeBrincat fell to the second some how.

NHL scouting is weird.

I think at the high end he ends up being a Letang or OEL type player. At the low maybe a Yandle. The kids going to produce and be a very good player and a type of player the Hawks haven't had since the resurgence.
- fattybeef

Maybe Beef. Tell you what from what little I have seen of Merkley he might be as talented as Boqvist, maybe more so. IMO Merkley has better vision.

I'm on the Boqvist train, man. Rooting like hell for him even though I wanted Wahlstrom and not sure Dobson won't end up with a better NHL career. And if he ends up a Letang big win but Letang is a tough cookie and will play the body and block pucks. Don't think we'll see any of that from the Svede.

I'll settle for being a Tyson Barrie and see a lot of similarities.

In case you missed it I posted a great shift by shift of Boqvist from a month ago in OHL action. Kid has skills for sure, is exciting and is only 18 yrs old but stand by my earlier post that many times his Dzone play is hideous and have said that from the day he was drafted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auumEXZVRUo&t=180s

He did say that Colliton can "absolutely" choose his own assistants next year if he sees fit. Colliton is on a multi-year deal - specific terms undisclosed.

Stan mentioned that Kunitz and Manning, in particular, were brought in as the type of players that Q preferred to have on the team.
- pdx2ord

First part is good to hear, one that I would expect a coach to have control over. Nice he will be around for a little bit, I like JC but not everything he does. Second part, I did know haha. I became familiar with Q's coaching in 10 years.

A Q&A with Colliton in SI

https://www.si.com/nhl/20...xid=socialflow_twitter_si

He did say that Colliton can "absolutely" choose his own assistants next year if he sees fit. Colliton is on a multi-year deal - specific terms undisclosed.

Stan mentioned that Kunitz and Manning, in particular, were brought in as the type of players that Q preferred to have on the team.
- pdx2ord

Hopefully they spend the rest of the season in the press box together lamenting Q's dismissal. Two wasted roster spots.

Johnson has been assigned to Rockford. I like the kid’s game but if he’s not ready to play regularly he should be in Rockford.
- DarthKane

Rockford could use him.

Wonder what the next move is.

Hawks play again on Tuesday and could go with 22 on the active roster.

... or is Connor Murphy ahead of schedule?

.... or is there a magical trade to fix this team coming?

Rockford could use him.

Wonder what the next move is.

Hawks play again on Tuesday and could go with 22 on the active roster.

... or is Connor Murphy ahead of schedule?

.... or is there a magical trade to fix this team coming?
- Justin Lowe

I may be misremembering, but isn't it unusual for us to have three total w/two forwards in the box each game? If so, maybe this is the only move.

Regardless, better that the young scratches get playing time in Rockford than watch from press box, IMO.

Rockford could use him.

Wonder what the next move is.

Hawks play again on Tuesday and could go with 22 on the active roster.

... or is Connor Murphy ahead of schedule?

.... or is there a magical trade to fix this team coming?
- Justin Lowe

Anything is possible, but I’m not expecting any immediate moves. Like you said, the roster is at 22 players so a move isn’t necessary. This gives the team flexibility whenever Murphy returns. If Davidson returns any time soon Stan will need to make a move, but Davidson can easily be waived and sent to Rockford.

Anything is possible, but I’m not expecting any immediate moves. Like you said, the roster is at 22 players so a move isn’t necessary. This gives the team flexibility whenever Murphy returns. If Davidson returns any time soon Stan will need to make a move, but Davidson can easily be waived and sent to Rockford.
- DarthKane

Davidson had knee surgery. Probably not returning soon.

Are you kidding? Do you believe a “Man to Man” Defensive System means a D-Man can just get caught up-ice like a moron?

Edzo’s analysis was ridiculous. Also do you believe that a “Man to Man” System means the remaining D-Man, Yoki, on a break in, can just chase the puck carrier along the boards ALSO taking himself completely out of the play. So now there are NO D-MEN - NO D-MEN!!! - actually trying to defend the play? Please - that is ridiculous. Also Joki doesn’t actually win the puck does he? So bad decision. A “Man on Man” Defensive System does not allow D-Men to play like morons. You can’t expect forwards to cover moronic play.
- Z3Hawk

Here is a little bit of insight, which is really quite basic at any level of hockey.

Forwards cover for d when they rush. It is a part of hockey.

More importantly, you had a 1 on 3. If you are in the NHL and can not cover a 1 on three and look over your shoulder to look for a trailer before attacking the 1, then there lies the problem. Actually that is a problem for bantam, high school, junior, college and anywhere.

I get it, you believe Gus is the source of everything bad in the world.

Is it? Is there a process and who is in charge of it? Not questioning you, in fact gun to my head would agree, but the concern is who's overseeing this process/evaluation and now that Q is gone is Stan being evaluated as his roster under a new coach tries to even be competitive.

Oh, I liked the Scuderi add too.
- Mr Ricochet

I was kidding about Scuderi by the way....lol....

Rockford could use him.

Wonder what the next move is.

Hawks play again on Tuesday and could go with 22 on the active roster.

... or is Connor Murphy ahead of schedule?

.... or is there a magical trade to fix this team coming?
- Justin Lowe

Not that I didn't love the fight from this fragile team and an otw last night, but yes please. I hope that game gives the guys momentum and turns into a positive swing for them.

First part is good to hear, one that I would expect a coach to have control over. Nice he will be around for a little bit, I like JC but not everything he does. Second part, I did know haha. I became familiar with Q's coaching in 10 years.
- I Am The Breadman

The second part re Q is the reason why I am glad that Q is gone. That statement by Stan is the reason the team seemed to have no direction. The GM and Coach have to be in sync which they were not as many of us suspected..