And they make loads of profit, and dont care about a million here or there.
Hence robidas island, horton etc.
- Fakepartofme

It's crazy to say the Nylander contract has anything to do with shaving money off him to boost the bottom line. It's cap management, pure and simple.

It would be crazy if he was our best player and this was happening, but that's also not the case. He's as high a 4th and as low as 6th on the depth chart depending who you ask. His slice of the pie simply isn't 8 or more on this team.

If there was no salary cap I would wholeheartedly agree with the comparison. But if there was no salary cap, I doubt the Leafs would be at all hesitant in giving Willy $8 mln a year...
- poopstash

JVR would still be on the Leafs with no cap. You have to be very careful in a cap world with how much and who you pay. A JVr is just to one-dimensional to give a big contract to into his 30's.

If there was no salary cap I would wholeheartedly agree with the comparison. But if there was no salary cap, I doubt the Leafs would be at all hesitant in giving Willy $8 mln a year...
- poopstash

A salary cap could be equated to a department budget, which, in my experience, comes up pretty often during reviews.

Just Bixll becoming the Habs ref. Deal.
- bixll

Well unlike you guys around here, we have a fair and respectable despot doing the job on a regular basis.

There are simply no openings until Howard jr is ready to take over.

It's crazy to say the Nylander contract has anything to do with shaving money off him to boost the bottom line. It's cap management, pure and simple.

It would be crazy if he was our best player and this was happening, but that's also not the case. He's as high a 4th and as low as 6th on the depth chart depending who you ask. His slice of the pie simply isn't 8 or more on this team.
- leafsfann

Larkin just signed for 6.1 million per and he's a centre and got 63 points last season. 8 million is too steep.

Larkin just signed for 6.1 million per and he's a centre and got 63 points last season. 8 million is too steep.
- RogerRoeper

What if you put the 8 million on a flat surface?

Larkin just signed for 6.1 million per and he's a centre and got 63 points last season. 8 million is too steep.
- RogerRoeper

No one knows for certain if he's even asked for 8MM. For all we know Leafs offered 5.5 and he's asking for 7. The speculated numbers in the media are all just speculation.

Look at the deals Rielly and Kadri signed, maybe they're asking him to sign a deal similar to theirs. Those guys definitely left money on the table.

And Nylander, as a driving force of that profit over the last couple of years wants a piece of the pie.

Standing up for oneself is seen as a virtue until it's not convenient.
- TheMussel

I was at the game on Monday, and I couldn't believe how many empty seats there were - with notes on them that said, "I didn't buy this seat because Nylander isn't playing."

Well unlike you guys around here, we have a fair and respectable despot doing the job on a regular basis.

There are simply no openings until Howard jr is ready to take over.
- Scabeh

Ass kisser.

I was at the game on Monday, and I couldn't believe how many empty seats there were - with notes on them that said, "I didn't buy this seat because Nylander isn't playing."
- Atomic Wedgie

very good post

Good thing they start fresh next year with a clean slate.
- bixll

That's not Nylander's problem. But if he waits, it will be.

From a empathetic standpoint, if I was a significant contributing employee for an international conglomerate that printed money and they couldn't pony up another couple of thou so I could be adequately recognized for my contributions, I'd be sour too.
- TheMussel

I'm going to stand up for MLSEL here (weird as that may sound).

They aren't saying they won't give Willie $8 million because they don't want to spend the money.

Everyone knows the Leafs will max out their cap for the next 10 years.

It's about spending the money wisely.

Holding back $1 million per year doesn't raise the coin level of the Scrooge McDuck bathtub. It just makes the team more competitive.

Larkin just signed for 6.1 million per and he's a centre and got 63 points last season. 8 million is too steep.
- RogerRoeper

We don't know what he's asked for or what the Leafs have offered though.

What if you put the 8 million on a flat surface?
- Scabeh

I franking love the dad jokes.

Keep 'em coming.

That's not Nylander's problem. But if he waits, it will be.
- BINGO!

He's not driving the bus. The Leafs own his ass for another 5 years. He should be sat out.

Based on what do you get this idea? They are #1 in operational budgets and routinely eat contracts to save cap room. They also spend to the cap max when needed.

Make no mistake, a cup run represents an embarrassment of financial riches for the Leafs.

15 years ago I was reading they were making 1 million per playoff game in pure profit. It's likely double today.
- RogerRoeper

Now it's well over 5 mill in ticket prices alone, add tv rights and concessions, be surprised if it was under 10 mill. Plus no salaries to pay in the playoffs.

We don't know what he's asked for or what the Leafs have offered though.
- walshyleafsfan

No, we don't.

He's not driving the bus. The Leafs own his ass for another 5 years. He should be sat out.
- bixll

That's why a deal will get done Dec 1st. They're trying to use any leverage they possibly can. Come Dec 1st, they have ran out of any options.

I'm going to stand up for MLSEL here (weird as that may sound).

They aren't saying they won't give Willie $8 million because they don't want to spend the money.

Everyone knows the Leafs will max out their cap for the next 10 years.

It's about spending the money wisely.

Holding back $1 million per year doesn't raise the coin level of the Scrooge McDuck bathtub. It just makes the team more competitive.
- Atomic Wedgie

I truly do hope they spend the money wisely.

I guess the underlying point that I'm trying to get across is that if anybody wants to push Nylander onto the subway tracks at Union Station because he's in a contract stalemate with the team, they're probably being a tad irrational.

That's why a deal will get done Dec 1st. They're trying to use any leverage they possibly can. Come Dec 1st, they have ran out of any options.
- walshyleafsfan

I'd send Willie a seat cushion.

He's not driving the bus. The Leafs own his ass for another 5 years. He should be sat out.
- bixll

He has to do what he can for himself, right? I don't get why anyone would hold that against him.

I truly do hope they spend the money wisely.

I guess the underlying point that I'm trying to get across is that if anybody wants to push Nylander onto the subway tracks at Union Station because he's in a contract stalemate with the team, they're probably being a tad irrational.
- TheMussel

I have no problem with a player doing some hard bargaining.

But if indeed Nylander is asking for $8 million X 8 years, he's just being greedy and stupid. He's simply not worth that much.

So yeah, if I do see him on the platform...

Speaking of bumping into Leafs, I was going through the metal detectors on Monday night at (whatever we call the arena now), and Tomas Kaberle was in front of me.

He still looked 18 years old.

I'm going to stand up for MLSEL here (weird as that may sound).

They aren't saying they won't give Willie $8 million because they don't want to spend the money.

Everyone knows the Leafs will max out their cap for the next 10 years.

It's about spending the money wisely.

Holding back $1 million per year doesn't raise the coin level of the Scrooge McDuck bathtub. It just makes the team more competitive.
- Atomic Wedgie

As I said in the other guy's thread, what guarantees does Nylander have that any money he leaves on the table will go to shore up any weaknesses in the team and not just pay Matthews or Marner a little extra?

It’s all about being a team player and making things work so everyone is happy and you have the best chance at winning the Stanley Cup. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?

Lucas, that's the way it was many years ago but it's not like that anymore. Most players will always tell you there main goal the Stanley Cup above all else but don't kid yourself....nowadays..it's all about getting paid first. When you see players two days after there season ends tweeting or instagramming lavish trips or showing off some ugly sports car....it's definitely not cup or bust!

He has to do what he can for himself, right? I don't get why anyone would hold that against him.
- BINGO!

Because we are Leaf fans, not Willie Nylander fans.