I don't know if it is all that broken. The RFA system is designed to protect the team not the player. A player doesn't really have seniority yet in the league. They haven't yet earned the same protections as other members. So the CBA likely concedes to protect it's more senior members. The teams still need a chance to build their youth without giving away too much power.

I don't know why a player coming out of their ELC doesn't get arbitration rights. That part doesn't make sense. Not to mention a lack of mediation application for these types of scenarios.

I'd wholly agree that there has to be a way to resolve these types of situations more efficiently, but I would still strongly side with the team until a player reaches a certain age.
- Monkeypunk

I basically never side with a team

This is about as realistic as every single other trade proposal you've offered, especially considering I don't want children.
- TheMussel

I once thought like that, then I thought well I don't want 2, now I am very sure I don't want 5.

I once thought like that, then I thought well I don't want 2, now I am very sure I don't want 5.
- Drapz

Good point, I'll put condoms on the shopping list

And Lucic has to report directly to the next Rocket that NASA plans to fire into deep space.
- TheMussel

For "Solar exploration".

We have bigger problems than Nylander holding out right now how are going to win the Jennings and the Calder trophies this year? I think we have the rest covered.

We need Anderson/sparks to tighten up and Johnsson to be put on one of the top two lines.

I basically never side with a team
- BINGO!

It's an easy trap for any of us to objectively spin in. The team has all the money and holds all the cards. The players are the product. Without the players, the team is nothing. Without the teams, the players are potentially thugs who know how to skate.

It's a never-ending game of tug-of-war, but I think if you're going to look at cost reduction for the teams, you need to make a "prove yourself" period for the players. I know that's what the ELC period is, but a state of additional control beyond that might not be too bad.

All that blather aside, I still think if there was arbitration or mandated mediation after a certain period, none of this would be an issue.

It's an easy trap for any of us to objectively spin in. The team has all the money and holds all the cards. The players are the product. Without the players, the team is nothing. Without the teams, the players are potentially thugs who know how to skate.

It's a never-ending game of tug-of-war, but I think if you're going to look at cost reduction for the teams, you need to make a "prove yourself" period for the players. I know that's what the ELC period is, but a state of additional control beyond that might not be too bad.

All that blather aside, I still think if there was arbitration or mandated mediation after a certain period, none of this would be an issue.
- Monkeypunk

Its hard to justify a player getting 8 million after two 60 point seasons.

The tables turn when you are a UFA. They gain all the leverage.

It's an easy trap for any of us to objectively spin in. The team has all the money and holds all the cards. The players are the product. Without the players, the team is nothing. Without the teams, the players are potentially thugs who know how to skate.

It's a never-ending game of tug-of-war, but I think if you're going to look at cost reduction for the teams, you need to make a "prove yourself" period for the players. I know that's what the ELC period is, but a state of additional control beyond that might not be too bad.

All that blather aside, I still think if there was arbitration or mandated mediation after a certain period, none of this would be an issue.
- Monkeypunk

I don't think there SHOULD be cost reduction for teams. That's what the salary cap is for.

I'm also all-in on abolishing the draft but maintaining a hard salary cap.

Can’t do ice wine anymore - too sweet.

Late harvest or 2nd pressing - half the the price, double the yummy.
- Atomic Wedgie

Meh, I prefer double the price and half the yummy.

I'm kind of tired of max's trade proposals too
- TheMussel

Arizona:

Keller + 2020 2nd

for

Nylander and 2019 1st

And Lucic has to report directly to the next Rocket that NASA plans to fire into deep space.
- TheMussel

harsh, but fair.... Deal

I'm kind of tired of max's trade proposals too
- TheMussel

Anaheim

Manson + Cogliano + 2020 1st

for

Nylander and 2019 2nd

Arizona:

Keller + 2020 2nd

for

Nylander and 2019 1st
- plantheparade

Pass, Arizona may fold as a franchise by 2020. We'd be left with no draft pick

Once the 9 days is up the conversation will return back to ken hitchcock in no time, it'll be fine.
- TheMussel

I'm rooting for Hitch.

I like the dude.

He demands total commitment from his players. If you buy in, you thrive. If you don't buy in, well, Edmonton can be a very, very cold place.

And I want McDavid to do well.

I'm kind of tired of max's trade proposals too
- TheMussel

Boston

McAvoy

for

Nylander

Nylaner for your first born child
- plantheparade

My first-born is a stay at home defenceman, but she shoots left.

I'm kind of tired of max's trade proposals too
- TheMussel

Buffalo

frank Buffalo

Arizona:

Keller + 2020 2nd

for

Nylander and 2019 1st
- plantheparade

The Leafs traded down from the 1st round to the 2nd round. The compensation they got? a 3rd round pick.

You are essentially saying a 3rd round pick moves the needle.

Stop wasting your time and more importantly everyone elses time with these stupid proposals.

I'm kind of tired of max's trade proposals too
- TheMussel

Carolina Boringcanes

Svechnikov + Slavin

for

Nylander + Gardiner

It's an easy trap for any of us to objectively spin in. The team has all the money and holds all the cards. The players are the product. Without the players, the team is nothing. Without the teams, the players are potentially thugs who know how to skate.

It's a never-ending game of tug-of-war, but I think if you're going to look at cost reduction for the teams, you need to make a "prove yourself" period for the players. I know that's what the ELC period is, but a state of additional control beyond that might not be too bad.

All that blather aside, I still think if there was arbitration or mandated mediation after a certain period, none of this would be an issue.
- Monkeypunk

The NFL proved you wrong. Dead wrong.

Although Keenu Reeves was a damn fine actor in that movie...

Carolina Boringcanes

Svechnikov + Slavin

for

Nylander + Gardiner
- plantheparade

You can (frank) right off.

You can (frank) right off.
- BINGO!

We have been asking him to do that for a while

the kid comes back even worse

Buffalo

frank Buffalo
- plantheparade

Hey!!

You can (frank) right off...
- BINGO!

...back to the Spanish vineyard.

The Me-lander speculation is reaching fever pitch, but at least he's a great player. Remember the Jimmy Vesey sweepstakes? That was the strangest phenomenon