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TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 21 @ 2:33 PM ET
It's more like; Nylander saying "I've been working at Pepsi for 3 years now, I want to be paid like someone that's been working here for 15 years."
- PatC80


That would make him management.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 21 @ 2:34 PM ET
now thats something to complain about..Aho/Dermott
- senstroll

Marner, Aho, Nylander, Kapanen on the right wings.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
That would make him management.
- TrashPanda


Nylander wants to be paid....


...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Kypreos is just as bad as Button at making proposed trades.
- GreatGigInTheSky

They both try to be the outliers...trying to be different from the norm even it means complete lunacy.
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Nov 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Leafs are doing it all without Willy and Matthews right now, it’s impressive is what it is.

Matthews and Nylander to Edmonton for McDavid.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
Looks like TSN is at it again;

TSN‏Verified account @TSN_Sports · 1h1 hour ago


Should the Leafs consider a Nylander-for-Saad trade?

- PatC80

Wtf?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
Wtf?
- Fakepartofme


Yeah.

That's pretty Saad.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
Wtf?
- Fakepartofme


TSN is trolling their followers. Sad.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 21 @ 2:45 PM ET
Leafs are doing it all without Willy and Matthews right now, it’s impressive is what it is.

Matthews and Nylander to Edmonton for McDavid.

- sabreadvocate1

Good grief.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
it ended up being Dermott, Bracco and Dzierkals

I remember having an exchange with you about Kap (you called him basically a bust).

I am pretty confident in a couple year we will look at Dermott/Konecny as a win and its not that close

- senstroll

I don't know if I ever called Kap a bust. but I am certainly on record as saying we got ripped off in the Kessel deal.

There's a high probability I'm wrong on this.

I have to admit I was never a true Andersen believer (despite the fact my daughter worships him).

Now, I'm not so sure. He just may be an elite goaltender.

I don't think you can ever say we won the Kessel trade, but this may be a good example of the trade benefiting both teams (see: Ignla, J for Niewendyk, J.).
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
Nylander wants to be paid....


- PatC80



Like a UFA. Skipping his RFA years.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
Looks like TSN is at it again;

TSN‏Verified account @TSN_Sports · 1h1 hour ago


Should the Leafs consider a Nylander-for-Saad trade?

- PatC80


Saw that earlier on twatter.

TSN making me feel smart these days, what with Nylander for Saad proposals and Yost's occasional arithmetic lesson
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 21 @ 2:48 PM ET
Yeah.

That's pretty Saad.

- Scabeh

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 21 @ 2:50 PM ET
Saw that earlier on twatter.

TSN making me feel smart these days, what with Nylander for Saad proposals and Yost's occasional arithmetic lesson

- TheMussel


TSN: Here's why I think a Nylander for Saad trade is a good idea....

...

...

...

Nope, I got nothing. It's a terrible idea.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
TSaN bowman: Here's why I think a Nylander for Saad trade is a good idea....

...

...

...

Nope, I got nothing. It's a terrible idea.

- PatC80


fixed


Also, Craig Button pitched it.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
Yeah.

That's pretty Saad.

- Scabeh

I knew someone would do this.

Tsk tsk

Lol
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 21 @ 2:53 PM ET
I don't know if it is all that broken. The RFA system is designed to protect the team not the player. A player doesn't really have seniority yet in the league. They haven't yet earned the same protections as other members. So the CBA likely concedes to protect it's more senior members. The teams still need a chance to build their youth without giving away too much power.

I don't know why a player coming out of their ELC doesn't get arbitration rights. That part doesn't make sense. Not to mention a lack of mediation application for these types of scenarios.

I'd wholly agree that there has to be a way to resolve these types of situations more efficiently, but I would still strongly side with the team until a player reaches a certain age.

- Monkeypunk

Because CBAs are negotiated by existing players, who are not afraid to throw younger players under the bus, because they don't give to franks about them.

Why the frank does Matthews make the same $ as Connor Brown for the 1st 3 years? Because he wasn't in the league yet when the current CBA was signed, and the players who negotiated it were happy to sacrifice guys who weren't at the table, so that the guys at the table could get more Benjamins.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
TSN: Here's why I think a Nylander for Saad trade is a good idea....

...

...

...

Nope, I got nothing. It's a terrible idea.

- PatC80


Saad + Schmaltz for Nylander and Bracco and Leafs do it
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
Because CBAs are negotiated by existing players, who are not afraid to throw younger players under the bus, because they don't give to franks about them.

Why the frank does Matthews make the same $ as Connor Brown for the 1st 3 years? Because he wasn't in the league yet when the current CBA was signed, and the players who negotiated it were happy to sacrifice guys who weren't at the table, so that the guys at the table could get more Benjamins.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's actually probably true.

Boy, the next lockout is gonna be sweet.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
Leafs are doing it all without Willy and Matthews right now, it’s impressive is what it is.

Matthews and Nylander to Edmonton for McDavid.

- sabreadvocate1

You missed this debate last night after midnight, and we are not re-opening it.

Yet.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
Can't believe the Jackets are so dumb as to trade Saad! That guy could fetch a superstar like Panarin!
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Nov 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
TSN: Here's why I think a Nylander for Saad trade is a good idea....

...

...

...

Nope, I got nothing. It's a terrible idea.

- PatC80


Poor TSN is running out of ideas....I’m sure by now they are pulling a teams name out of a hat at this point then just picking some random player.....tomorrow it will probably be “Nylander for Shaw? How does Nylander fit in with the Canadians?”
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
Saad + Schmaltz for Nylander and Bracco and Leafs do it
- plantheparade


I hope not.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
Looks like TSN is at it again;

TSN‏Verified account @TSN_Sports · 1h1 hour ago


Should the Leafs consider a Nylander-for-Saad trade?

- PatC80

Fake news.

Saad.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 21 @ 2:58 PM ET
I don't know if I ever called Kap a bust. but I am certainly on record as saying we got ripped off in the Kessel deal.

There's a high probability I'm wrong on this.

I have to admit I was never a true Andersen believer (despite the fact my daughter worships him).

Now, I'm not so sure. He just may be an elite goaltender.

I don't think you can ever say we won the Kessel trade, but this may be a good example of the trade benefiting both teams (see: Ignla, J for Niewendyk, J.).

- Atomic Wedgie


I am pretty sure you didnt use the word bust. It was more along the lines of he was a nothing prospect and not worth anything in a trade (that everyone was using at the time in trade proposals)

It would have been around the 16-17 season, I remember looking up his stats and commenting that a point a game in the AHL for a 20yo is pretty good and he projected as an NHL'er

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