Oh well. That's why you draft lots of players. They can't all make the next step.
- bixll

the thing to do there is make a 4th, 5th and 6th rounder out of that low % 2nd round pick... it's called the yost-proven method of success for drafting

That's why I tape bubble wrap around my skates when I play...best teammate ever.
- Glak18

You do not...

Just sucks.
- AdamFrench

With Dermott playing pretty well do we hate the Bracco/Dermott for Konecny swap less?

the thing to do there is make a 4th, 5th and 6th rounder out of that low % 2nd round pick... it's called the yost-proven method of success for drafting
- plantheparade

Yost Ice wine, is the only thing I have ever tried that was good with that name attached.

With Dermott playing pretty well do we hate the Bracco/Dermott for Konecny swap less?
- markmark

Dermott himself will turn out a more valuable player than Konecny imo.

With Dermott playing pretty well do we hate the Bracco/Dermott for Konecny swap less?
- markmark

I doubt you see him being moved, we need D help. He looks like he might be a good one.

I doubt you see him being moved, we need D help. He looks like he might be a good one.
- bixll

(The Leafs' pick that could/would/should have been Konecny was traded for two picks that became Bracco + Dermott)

I know. But the stats show a lot of those shots aren’t what you consider to be “high danger”.

Easy shots should improve your sv%
- Feeling Glucky?

I guess, I think Andy's looked real good....JMO

We're still giving up way too many shots....24th in the league is not a good sign.

I'm not saying our D are 100% to blame, having the lead a lot probably contributes as the team starts playing safer etc etc.

You do not...
- bixll

It's tricky, the toughest part is skating without popping the bubbles.

A few of the girls on the team I'm coaching are now attempting it - with some hilarious results.

They haven't figured out yet that coming off the ice is much harder than hopping on the ice.
- Atomic Wedgie

The fact that he wants 8 mil instead of 6.5 or 7, tells me he wants money on any of the 30 nhl teams, not a stanley cup with the leafs.

That alone is enough to alienate me.

On the flip side, maybe this was all calculated to have him sign in december and skew the cap hit.

Even if he does come back, its not a jersey i’ll ever want to purchase.
- Buggy166

So if you work for Pepsi and your boss offers you a raise to bring your salary to $60,000 per annum but Coke tells you that they would offer you $80,000 to do the same job(all things even) do you still sign with Pepsi for less without asking any questions, do you ask your boss at Pepsi to match the Coke offer (or come close) or do you just say I'm outta here, see ya?

What if you ask your boss at Pepsi for that raise and he says no. He says that you're a valued team member and theyve invested time and money in training you so you should stay. He lists a few other intangibles for why you should stay but doesnt budge on salary or perks. If you choose to leave does that make you selfish? I dont think so. I see this as a failure on the part of management to find a way to retain you if they value you.

I interpret this a bit different from you, with all due respect. to me, the fact that he hasnt demanded a trade but rather said I want to stay here if you can match or come close tells me that his #1 preference is to be a Leaf and win here.

With Dermott playing pretty well do we hate the Bracco/Dermott for Konecny swap less?
- markmark

Nope

TONIGHT!

McBackup: The return.

He didn't forget and he doesn't forgive.

(The Leafs' pick that could/would/should have been Konecny was traded for two picks that became Bracco + Dermott)
- markmark

IIRC, there was another “trade down” which makes the whole evaluation even more complicated.

I guess, I think Andy's looked real good....JMO

We're still giving up way too many shots....24th in the league is not a good sign.

I'm not saying our D are 100% to blame, having the lead a lot probably contributes as the team starts playing safer etc etc.
- Garnie

I don't care about shots.

It is the danger chances that I care about...you know. The ones that actually have a good chance of going in.

TONIGHT!

McBackup: The return.

He didn't forget and he doesn't forgive.
- Scabeh

WE’LL RENT YOU THE WHOLE SEAT, BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE FRONT OF IT!!!!

WE’LL RENT YOU THE WHOLE SEAT, BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE FRONT OF IT!!!!
- Atomic Wedgie

Dubas received several of these.

Yost Ice wine, is the only thing I have ever tried that was good with that name attached.
- bixll

Can’t do ice wine anymore - too sweet.

Late harvest or 2nd pressing - half the the price, double the yummy.

Can’t do ice wine anymore - too sweet.

Late harvest or 2nd pressing - half the the price, double the yummy.
- Atomic Wedgie

who's the guy with the winestore in here again?

With Dermott playing pretty well do we hate the Bracco/Dermott for Konecny swap less?
- markmark

I wouldnt trade Dermott for Konecny now.

Dermott has some really promising stats. The leafs this season are much better possession wise when he is on the ice.

He is what this team needs and everyone keeps trying to trade for

TONIGHT!

McBackup: The return.

He didn't forget and he doesn't forgive.
- Scabeh

The backuppening.

IIRC, there was another “trade down” which makes the whole evaluation even more complicated.
- Atomic Wedgie

it ended up being Dermott, Bracco and Dzierkals

I remember having an exchange with you about Kap (you called him basically a bust).

I am pretty confident in a couple year we will look at Dermott/Konecny as a win and its not that close

So if you work for Pepsi and your boss offers you a raise to bring your salary to $60,000 per annum but Coke tells you that they would offer you $80,000 to do the same job(all things even) do you still sign with Pepsi for less without asking any questions, do you ask your boss at Pepsi to match the Coke offer (or come close) or do you just say I'm outta here, see ya?

What if you ask your boss at Pepsi for that raise and he says no. He says that you're a valued team member and theyve invested time and money in training you so you should stay. He lists a few other intangibles for why you should stay but doesnt budge on salary or perks. If you choose to leave does that make you selfish? I dont think so. I see this as a failure on the part of management to find a way to retain you if they value you.

I interpret this a bit different from you, with all due respect. to me, the fact that he hasnt demanded a trade but rather said I want to stay here if you can match or come close tells me that his #1 preference is to be a Leaf and win here.
- Turnitaround

Horrible comparison. There's no Restricted Free Agency at Coke and Pepsi. There's no arbitration rights.

You make it sound as if he can just go sign with whoever wants to pay him most. That's not the way the NHL works. You're under team control for X number of years. Work through it, get paid based on comparable players and when your time of team control is over, go sign with whoever you want for whatever amount you choose. You don't get to decide that at 22 years old though.

Horrible comparison. There's no Restricted Free Agency at Coke and Pepsi. There's no arbitration rights.

You make it sound as if he can just go sign with whoever wants to pay him most. That's not the way the NHL works. You're under team control for X number of years. Work through it, get paid based on comparable players and when your time of team control is over, go sign with whoever you want for whatever amount you choose. You don't get to decide that at 22 years old though.
- MrBen

He can. It's just that the other teams have to give up a bunch of picks to do it.

The RFA system is broken and stupid.

I wouldnt trade Dermott for Konecny now.

Dermott has some really promising stats. The leafs this season are much better possession wise when he is on the ice.

He is what this team needs and everyone keeps trying to trade for
- senstroll

Tell me more about the stats