Sounds like a lot of work. My family didnt have thanksgiving this year. We live in Canada so ours was last month. My sister was over the weekend after and we bought those cooked Chickens in hot foods area, I crossed out the chicken on the container and wrote baby turkey and that was our Thanksgiving lol
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It’s a little work but worth it if you have the time. Brine takes a few minutes to make but mostly of the time is just the turkey absorbing the flavors and salt.

I always thought the timing ofCanadian Thanksgiving is a much better timing. Much closer to the actual harvest when you have more fresh vegetables to eat.

Yep I see JvR here is like Kessel in Pittsburgh. They get the extra ice when PP's happen.
- dragonoffrost

Imagine if JvR was signed because they had no other options for the top 6...

The Flyers relatively have 8 top 6 forwards, depending on your definition of a top 6 is. Many teams can not say that. Arizona basically has the same record as the Flyers, how many fans would swap full rosters with them?

If you are a Flyer fan, not a fan of the say Sharks, but pretend to be a Flyer fan...which teams would you swap full rosters with (Same GM, coaching staff, etc) includes NHL roster and all players in the system.

Y = swap
N = keep

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I would swap for maybe 10 of those.

Honestly, the +2 at 5v5 is very positive and they have been steadily improving in this area the last few years. Hak doesnt get credit for this and its a shame because it gets over shadowed by the ineptness of the PK. MJL argues that the PK issues are more on the players not executing, and to extent he's correct, but if they ve improved defensivly 5v5 it doesnt make sense that theyre so poor 4v5. This is why Lappy has to go.
- KINGKENZO

They haven't improved defensively at 5 on 5. They have regressed defensively at 5 on 5 from last season. They've been one of the better 5 on 5 offensive teams and yet are only a +2.

I would swap for maybe 10 of those.
- flyer_nutter

Remember, same coaching staff, same play style, same moves....but with players switched and not for 1 year, but for future years as well.

10 seems like a lot. Just because the team is winning now doesn't mean they win on the Flyers.

At first I thought 2 teams, but really I wouldn’t do it. But those are close. Flyers future is so bright.

If you are a Flyer fan, not a fan of the say Sharks, but pretend to be a Flyer fan...which teams would you swap full rosters with (Same GM, coaching staff, etc) includes NHL roster and all players in the system.

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- Glak18

Nashville, Tampa, Toronto, Winnipeg... Maybe Pittsburgh, San Jose, Washington.

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- ggunky

Nashville, Tampa, Toronto, Winnipeg... Maybe Pittsburgh, San Jose, Washington.
- dragonoffrost

I definitely had Winnipeg. Then I thought about Nashville and added them because of their backend. Toronto no question they have some amazing names, but could they play Flyer hockey? So I passed. Tampa looked amazing then I realized their cap situation. 1 year for a cup maybe, after that pass. I even briefly thought about Columbus and Buffalo...not sure.

Big no to the rest for me.

JVR has been one of the best flyers since his return, give him more TOI

Simmonds for the love that is all Philly beat the shxt out of someone
- wcorvette

His production in the last two games has been almost entirely on the PP. In fact, relative Corsi/Fenwick put him on the bottom half of the roster 5v5 and suggest he is being carried by his linemates.

I definitely had Winnipeg. Then I thought about Nashville and added them because of their backend. Toronto no question they have some amazing names, but could they play Flyer hockey? So I passed. Tampa looked amazing then I realized their cap situation. 1 year for a cup maybe, after that pass. I even briefly thought about Columbus and Buffalo...not sure.

Big nos to the rest for me.
- Glak18

Cap is the reason for the maybes. I'd take Tampa for that one cup right now. Columbus would be interesting because probably easier to keep Bob and Bread Man in Philly rather than the hole that is Columbus. Buffalo I'm not sure about them.

Cap is the reason for the maybes. I'd take Tampa for that one cup right now. Columbus would be interesting because probably easier to keep Bob and Bread Man in Philly rather than the hole that is Columbus. Buffalo I'm not sure about them.
- dragonoffrost

So here is my secondary question for you or anyone....

If you breakdown the players in the systems (Current roster and prospects) for the Flyers and at the very least put them in 1/3 of the league's best...can you blame Hextall and what he has done as GM?

Why do these players look great on paper and suck in reality, are the players really that bad?

His production in the last two games has been almost entirely on the PP. In fact, relative Corsi/Fenwick put him on the bottom half of the roster 5v5 and suggest he is being carried by his linemates.
- hockeyal

Corsi or Fenwick Rel is a really bad stat. The sample size is also way too small to even begin to make that assessment.

I thought it was funny in the Tampa game when Simmonds was trying to get one of their younger guys, Erne I think, to dance and he wanted nothing to do with him when Simmer was coming at him and then as soon as the puck went the other way and Simmonds skated away, he cross-checked him right in the back.
- ajw12

Yep!

It’s stuff like that, that makes me want him back next season.

Well, 1) he had no chemistry with Patrick & Voracek in preseason; 2) Patrick and Lindblom play really well together; 3) JVR legit just came back from injury; and 4) you're not going to split up G & Coots to put JVR on the first line just because he makes 7mil.
- ajw12

I don’t see what others see when it comes to G and Coots. They’re good together but I’m not seeing the magic of last season.

I definitely had Winnipeg. Then I thought about Nashville and added them because of their backend. Toronto no question they have some amazing names, but could they play Flyer hockey? So I passed. Tampa looked amazing then I realized their cap situation. 1 year for a cup maybe, after that pass. I even briefly thought about Columbus and Buffalo...not sure.

Big no to the rest for me.
- Glak18

Buffalo was one of my 2. I also gave thought to Colorado.

Scratch Lehtera and MacDonald and fight! Problem solved. Why can't the coach see this?
- MJL

Glad to see someone appreciates sarcasm. But I will address the whining unwashed masses.

The choice between MacDonald and Folin should be an easy one, but AMac has been indecisive and even more sluggish than last year, and I wonder if he is ever going to get over whatever nagging injury he has. If you follow the Phantoms it's pretty clear that nobody they could bring up is an upgrade.

The case for Lehtera is even clearer. The lineup projected for tonight is THE BEST LINEUP the Flyers can put on the ice considering who is healthy. NAK has made his case for getting the same league minimum tender this summer that Hexy gives every asset he won't part with. Would I want to see a healthy Raffl? YES PLEASE!!! But he won't solve the problem that the Flyers don't have a 3C, and Patrick is still growing into being 2C. But Vorobyov is being Vorobyov (brilliant or a liability) so who do you call up? Rubtsov looks as green as you would expect. The Phantoms best center is Phil Varone. Vecchione has played solidly and is a close second. But as much as I have been a Vecchione supporter in the past, does anyone think any of these guys is an upgrade over Weal OR Lehtera (not in a hypothetical future, but NOW)? If you do, you need to learn more about the game.

I don’t see what others see when it comes to G and Coots. They’re good together but I’m not seeing the magic of last season.
- SuperSchennBros

There was a good article in the Athletic about one of their goals this season. That piece summed it up nicely.

They haven't improved defensively at 5 on 5. They have regressed defensively at 5 on 5 from last season. They've been one of the better 5 on 5 offensive teams and yet are only a +2.
- MJL

Sure, but its disingenuous. Youre looking at a snapshot and evaluating a 20 game sample, without looking at all the factors, as you always perpetrate, vs a whole season. When Hak got here, they were abysmal 5v5 and that aspect has improved over his tenure.

Yes, they can still tighten things up to improve this season.
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- ggunky

There was a good article in the Athletic about one of their goals this season. That piece summed it up nicely.
- NC Flyers Fan

As to why they belong together or to split them up? I personally don’t think the success of the season weighs on whether or not they stay together. It’s like G and Jake together years ago. So much hesitation to split them.

Corsi or Fenwick Rel is a really bad stat. The sample size is also way too small to even begin to make that assessment.
- MJL

I totally agree. Both in the limited usefulness and that 2 games is a small sample size. And I would go further to say its totally worthless except when you are comparing guys who spend a lot of time on the ice together, and there is a glaring difference in their relative stats.

Also, if you look at the stats for the guys who were really playing well and generating 5v5 offense, their C/F Rel stats support that. So while I would not make any broad conclusions (like "Ghost is the Flyers best D because he has high Corsi numbers") it belies the idea that he was one of the Flyers "best players" at least 5v5. If he was, the Flyers would not have better offensive attempts when he was off the ice, but more attempts when Simmer and Weal were on the ice, would they?

I don’t see what others see when it comes to G and Coots. They’re good together but I’m not seeing the magic of last season.
- SuperSchennBros

Another article analyzed the stretch run last season from a variety of statistical standpoints and showed that they were dominant together and it really didn't matter if the other wing was Jake, TK, or Raffl, and in fact they were least effective when playing with TK.

They are getting back into the groove they had last season, and if you want to criticize they it would be that they are not being as effective in their 5v5 defense and puck possession. Hopefully, that will get better, especially where Coots is concerned.