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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 11:38 AM ET

- ajw12


Lindblom 13:04 TOI/GP
JvR 13:22 TOI/GP

Imagine the damage JvR could do if he played 18 seconds less a game...
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
So JvR should be moved up because he makes 6 million more than Lindblom? Might as well move Provorov down to the 3rd pairing and have MacDonald and Gudas as the top pair....
- Glak18



no but give JVR more TOI because he was one of the best players on the ice last 2 games.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
no but give JVR more TOI because he was one of the best players on the ice last 2 games.
- wcorvette


And playing with Patrick means more ice time?
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
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Nov 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
happy Thanksschenning everyone...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise


Ok, does everyone feel better?
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
And playing with Patrick means more ice time?
- Glak18



don't care how Hak does it, spot him some extra shifts for Lindbolm but JVR was physical, got to the net, made plays and played with an edge last game.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise


Ok, does everyone feel better?

- Glak18


No. Coots isn't generating enough offense for a 1C he needs to go back to his natural spot at 3C
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
I know JVR played some RW with Toronto so I wouldn't be opposed to switching him with TK but I really like that first line as is
- ajw12


Yes, if there is injuries throughout the season we may see some different combos. I don’t know about JVR, but a good few of the Flyers top wingers can play both sides equally well. G, TK, Lindy for sure. Gives a little flexibility.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
don't care how Hak does it, spot him some extra shifts for Lindbolm but JVR was physical, got to the net, made plays and played with an edge last game.
- wcorvette


Yeah he did play with excellent energy and deserves more ice time. My point being was what "line number" or who they play with doesn't always dictate ice time.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
No. Coots isn't generating enough offense for a 1C he needs to go back to his natural spot at 3C
- ajw12


Giroux-Lehtera-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Weise
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek


Seems like a waste of 4.7m to be on the 4th, better?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Giroux-Lehtera-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Weise
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek


Seems like a waste of 4.7m to be on the 4th, better?

- Glak18


You read my mind!
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Nov 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
And JVR belongs on the 3rd line? Sorry but If I am a GM of a team, I dont a guy 7 mill to play on the 3rd line.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


HELLO!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Giroux-Lehtera-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Laughton-Couturier-Weise
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek


Seems like a waste of 4.7m to be on the 4th, better?

- Glak18


KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
I remember going to a game against NJ and he picked a fight with Kovalchuck and got one punched to the ice...

- landros 2

Kovalchuk is 235 lbs and he caught him with a full pulled back wind up. Unless your face is made of Manhatten Island bedrock, youre going down on a shot like that.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
don't care how Hak does it, spot him some extra shifts for Lindbolm but JVR was physical, got to the net, made plays and played with an edge last game.
- wcorvette


Was this discussion all based on a single solitary crazy game and dollar signs?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
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Nov 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Was this discussion all based on a single solitary crazy game and dollar signs?
- NC Flyers Fan


Oh we are just talking the Tampa game...

JvR 17:16
Lindblom 12:37

I really don't understand, he played almost 5 more minutes in the game, but if you put him on another line that changes things?
dragonoffrost
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Nov 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Oh we are just talking the Tampa game...

JvR 17:16
Lindblom 12:37

I really don't understand, he played almost 5 more minutes in the game, but if you put him on another line that changes things?

- Glak18


PP time don't count...
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Oh we are just talking the Tampa game...

JvR 17:16
Lindblom 12:37

I really don't understand, he played almost 5 more minutes in the game, but if you put him on another line that changes things?

- Glak18


Okay?...so 5 minutes is kind of bigger minutes already. The issue is .
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Repost:

Looking at the goal differential for the Flyers, they really aren't excelling at anything.

Even Strength: +2
Man Advantage: +4
Short Handed: -15

Clearly their special teams needs to get better, but so does their even strength. Just giving up way too many goals all around. Just as a quick comparison, here is Nashville.

Even Strength: +17
Man Advantage: +8
Short Handed: -3

- Glak18


Honestly, the +2 at 5v5 is very positive and they have been steadily improving in this area the last few years. Hak doesnt get credit for this and its a shame because it gets over shadowed by the ineptness of the PK. MJL argues that the PK issues are more on the players not executing, and to extent he's correct, but if they ve improved defensivly 5v5 it doesnt make sense that theyre so poor 4v5. This is why Lappy has to go.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
PP time don't count...
- dragonoffrost


Even strength against Tampa
JvR 12:01
Lindblom 12:07

6 secs....
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
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Nov 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
Honestly, the +2 at 5v5 is very positive and they have been steadily improving in this area the last few years. Hak doesnt get credit for this and its a shame because it gets over shadowed by the ineptness of the PK. MJL argues that the PK issues are more on the players not executing, and to extent he's correct, but if they ve improved defensivly 5v5 it doesnt make sense that theyre so poor 4v5. This is why Lappy has to go.
- KINGKENZO


Obviously being a plus at even strength is good and would be much better if special teams was better. Even though they score 5 on 5, they get scored on a lot too.

So yes, if special teams got better then 5 on 5 is no concern, but they still have to get tighter defensively all around.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
Even strength against Tampa
JvR 12:01
Lindblom 12:07

6 secs....

- Glak18


Holy Chicago! Could have been 2 or 3 goals
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Okay?...so 5 minutes is kind of bigger minutes already. The issue is .
- NC Flyers Fan


I see no issues. JvR is going to be used the same no matter the line he is on. The more PP time they get, the more ice he gets. Even strength minutes for the most part is going to be spread out. If JvR is on the line with Patrick, does that mean Weal drives his line? Scary thought.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Weal-Simmonds
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise


Ok, does everyone feel better?

- Glak18



NO, Weal is not a 2nd line center something something......
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Nov 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
I see no issues. JvR is going to be used the same no matter the line he is on. The more PP time they get, the more ice he gets. Even strength minutes for the most part is going to be spread out. If JvR is on the line with Patrick, does that mean Weal drives his line? Scary thought.
- Glak18


Yep I see JvR here is like Kessel in Pittsburgh. They get the extra ice when PP's happen.
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