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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:26 PM ET
Will Hakstol prepare the players to be ready to play in the 3rd period or will the players not be aware that they have to compete and play hard in the 3rd period?
- MJL

Will you ever stop making stupid rhetorical questions?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:27 PM ET
No one is without blame this season. Hextall, Hak, the assistant coaches, the players; they all share the blame. However this is pro sports. The GM isn’t going to trade half the roster, nor is he going to fire himself. If this team doesn’t pick it up, it will be the coach that’s the first to go. That’s just the way it is.
- BiggE


Didn’t Clarkie basically fire himself?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 21 @ 9:27 PM ET
Will Hakstol prepare the players to be ready to play in the 3rd period or will the players not be aware that they have to compete and play hard in the 3rd period?
- MJL


In your mind, what exactly do coaches do, if anything at all?
easY
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.20.2018

Nov 21 @ 9:28 PM ET
Filppula is a +9 this season playing 2nd line minutes, and top unit PK minutes (Islanders PK is mid-pack). In the last 12 games last season the PK was top 10 in the NHL at 84%. Not great, but respectable. Sure, Provorov and Coots were logging a lot of minutes but right up there with them the top 7 in PK minutes: Matt Read, Filppula and Manning. Just saying.
- hockeyal


Saying that a small sample size will make any player look good
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:28 PM ET
Will you ever stop making stupid rhetorical questions?
- feelingkettle


It just goes to the stupid and asinine narrative that Hakstol didn't have them ready to play in the first period and it's his fault. You were one pushing that nonsense so I want to know from you what the coach did differently to prepare the team to be ready to play in the 2nd period?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:29 PM ET
Didn’t Clarkie basically fire himself?
- Dkos


That's how they said it went down. Knew he had given them a bad roster for 2006-07, knew that Hitch wasn't the coach for a rebuild. Gave Hitch the shiv before walking away
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:29 PM ET
Sixers still undefeated at home
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
Sixers still undefeated at home
- Dkos


Superior product to watch by far. Completely forgot the Flyers were on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
In your mind, what exactly do coaches do, if anything at all?
- ajw12


Install systems, provide specific information on a teams breakouts, neutral zone systems obtained from advanced scouting. Run practices. Give individual and team instruction. Set lines and player lineups. Change lines during games. Etc, etc.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
Didn’t Clarkie basically fire himself?
- Dkos

Yup, pretty much, but it’s not something you see too often
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:31 PM ET
It just goes to the stupid and asinine narrative that Hakstol didn't have them ready to play in the first period and it's his fault. You were one pushing that nonsense so I want to know from you what the coach did differently to prepare the team to be ready to play in the 2nd period?
- MJL

I'll take that as a no.

I know this may be hard for you to understand, but both of these things can be true
The players are responsible to play the way they know how to play.
The coaches are responsible to put players in the best situations to succeed, and hold them accountable if the players are not holding up their end of the bargain.

At this point, everyone is aware of your bizarre sexual gratification of arguing with people non stop, as you've been doing it for 11 (frank)ing years on this board. You are just insulting people tonight and I'm just thinking you might need a life coach to help you get past this.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:31 PM ET
Can anyone tell me what Hakstol did differently to prepare the team for the 2nd period that he didn't do for the first period?

Was it something like this? "Well guys, my bad. I didn't prepare you for the first period and let you know that the game started and that the first period actually counts. So how about we go out in the 2nd period ready to play and compete and skate? Let's go team!

The players respond" Okay coach, we didn't know we had to play hard in the first period"

- MJL

Did you play hockey? I’m just curious.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
Superior product to watch by far. Completely forgot the Flyers were on.
- StepfordSam


Made it interesting at the end
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 21 @ 9:32 PM ET
Did you play hockey? I’m just curious.
- Flyers1218

At this point, I'm not convinced he's ever gone outside.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 21 @ 9:33 PM ET
SO far the Flyers have had a missed open net and a post..

Ugh.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:34 PM ET
SO far the Flyers have had a missed open net and a post..

Ugh.

- opeth_pa


And the refs missed a clear trip
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:34 PM ET
SO far the Flyers have had a missed open net and a post..

Ugh.

- opeth_pa

Execution errors are killing them
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:34 PM ET
This isn't a must-win, but man, if they can get even a point out of this thing, it would be huge. You can't let these teams in front of you in the Metropolitan run away from you, as best you can
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 21 @ 9:35 PM ET
And the refs missed a clear trip
- arichardson22


I’m a sick man.

I’d like to see an official hammered behind the net. Get up after with no damage done, but still...

I’d love to see that.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 21 @ 9:35 PM ET
I’m a sick man.

I’d like to see an official hammered behind the net. Get up after with no damage done, but still...

I’d love to see that.

- flyer_nutter


Where’s Gritty when ya need him

Edit: makes me think of the Longest Yard when Sandler pegs the ref lol
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
Where’s Gritty when ya need him
- arichardson22

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
This isn't a must-win, but man, if they can get even a point out of this thing, it would be huge. You can't let these teams in front of you in the Metropolitan run away from you, as best you can
- AllInForFlyers


The kids need to play well, but they need to lose this one.

It’s bigger picture in my head. Any stupid win here just delays what should happen. Q is still out there. There is hope yet.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
Made it interesting at the end
- Dkos


Yeah, Pelicans are a good team and Sixers have been playing a lot of games lately. Solid win.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
Need to get one here to make it fun...
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
This is yuge
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