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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
Did he hit his weekly emoji limit?
- Blackstrom2


He never hit. He only exceeded.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:32 PM ET
Did he hit his weekly emoji limit?
- Blackstrom2


I wasnt around for what had him banned but I've heard whispers of over usage of sheep gifs...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
Speaking of covering all the bases, lets hope GM JR doesnt get trigger happy and trade away the #1 pick. It's looking more and more like a top 5 or higher.

Ive said it before, but always get drowned out, the biggest loss recently was Jason Botterill. The college pipeline dried up and you see the garbage they have replaced it with.

When does Sully start to take some heat? It's not always fair to blame the coach, but life isnt fair and coaches are hired to get fired. Joel Q is out there (for now). Again, Im not sure this is all Sully's fault, but it is easier to change a coaching staff rather than swap out 20 players. Of course, if you have 2 lawn chairs and some chicken wire in net, Scotty Bownman of the 70's cant help you so discussing the coach may just be an effort in futility.

- Amanion


There's abundence of posters here plus this blog's writer that have been thinking/saying the same thing(s) about Botterill since he left.
HiSticking
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: confluence
Joined: 05.04.2016

Nov 20 @ 12:36 PM ET
Sully gets the benefit of doubt, given the B2B runs. A big however, is that this is a performance/ results driven, short-term memory business, and he'll most likely be on a short leash for the foreseeable future. The writing is on the wall. Think he gets a few games with a full roster. It wouldn't be the first time goaltending cost a coach his job. Jarry call-up, if it happens, will be the siren of a desperate coach.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:43 PM ET
Rutherford reeled back trade talk with the PPG. He says its up to the players we have to turn it around and blah blah blah.

I interpret that as... "I do not want to appear so desperate to make a trade"

He also said trades are very difficult this time of year.

I interpret that as ... "Sprong and Maatta aren't worth what I expected"
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Nov 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
For the record, I think JR needs to make a few more moves but I still believe we will make the playoffs. With a few decent moves, easily cup contenders again.

Many posters on here last year said the same stuff... "pens need to re-build/re-tool, trade for futures, get more draft picks, blah blah blah". I think that's dumb... its win now mode until Sid and Geno have severely declined.

Shake up trades are perfectly okay (Maatta, Rust, Sprong, even Horny or Brassard). Kessel (scoring wiz and enforcer) is off the table too.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
Max Domi has been everything for the Habs this year. Ahh what could've been.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
Max Domi has been everything for the Habs this year. Ahh what could've been.
- Thorny87

I don’t know how we could have beaten Galchenyuk. We would have had to give up Guentzel, who is a better player.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:11 PM ET

I interpret that as ... "Sprong and Maatta aren't worth what I expected"

- YouMeAndDupuis9


THIS

I've never liked Maatta aside from his rookie year

We're a few seasons removed from the optimal time to trade him
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:12 PM ET
Max Domi has been everything for the Habs this year. Ahh what could've been.
- Thorny87



He's a moron. He'll come back to Earth eventually, unless you think Tatar suddenly morphed into a 35 goal, 65+ goal guy too.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
Speaking of covering all the bases, lets hope GM JR doesnt get trigger happy and trade away the #1 pick. It's looking more and more like a top 5 or higher.

Ive said it before, but always get drowned out, the biggest loss recently was Jason Botterill. The college pipeline dried up and you see the garbage they have replaced it with.

When does Sully start to take some heat? It's not always fair to blame the coach, but life isnt fair and coaches are hired to get fired. Joel Q is out there (for now). Again, Im not sure this is all Sully's fault, but it is easier to change a coaching staff rather than swap out 20 players. Of course, if you have 2 lawn chairs and some chicken wire in net, Scotty Bownman of the 70's cant help you so discussing the coach may just be an effort in futility.

- Amanion

I feel Tocchet was a big loss as well.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Nov 20 @ 1:19 PM ET
I wasnt around for what had him banned but I've heard whispers of over usage of sheep gifs...
- MattStrat

It was an over usuage of a lot of things lol
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
For the record, I think JR needs to make a few more moves but I still believe we will make the playoffs. With a few decent moves, easily cup contenders again.

Many posters on here last year said the same stuff... "pens need to re-build/re-tool, trade for futures, get more draft picks, blah blah blah". I think that's dumb... its win now mode until Sid and Geno have severely declined.

Shake up trades are perfectly okay (Maatta, Rust, Sprong, even Horny or Brassard). Kessel (scoring wiz and enforcer) is off the table too.

- YouMeAndDupuis9




Ehhhhhh..... you can only keep emptying the cupboard for so long. Eventually you're either going to have to recoup some pieces with a Crosby/Malkin trade, or just hang on to them once they're well past their prime and accept losing performances for a few years again.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
Rutherford reeled back trade talk with the PPG. He says its up to the players we have to turn it around and blah blah blah.

I interpret that as... "I do not want to appear so desperate to make a trade"

He also said trades are very difficult this time of year.

I interpret that as ... "Sprong and Maatta aren't worth what I expected"

- YouMeAndDupuis9


This is what has always bothered me about Rutherford. When you're "negotiating" it's best to say as little as possible. Take a page out of Shero's book.....that guy never let's on to what he's thinking.

If Anaheim was truly looking at Maatta last night, I think they'll be looking elsewhere after that game.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ehhhhhh..... you can only keep emptying the cupboard for so long. Eventually you're either going to have to recoup some pieces with a Crosby/Malkin trade, or just hang on to them once they're well past their prime and accept losing performances for a few years again.
- BINGO!

I think the vast majority of us are good with option two. We’ve had an absurd amount of success in this era of Penguins hockey. The best thing to do IMO is to dump everything into maximizing these last few years to see if we can squeeze out one more Cup and then let Sid and Geno take a victory lap for a couple of seasons and retire Pens. Never seeing those two in another team’s sweater is more important to me than avoiding a rebuild.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
I agree we will turn this around..but GMJR needs to do something to correct this D corps, Dumo and Tanger are the only SEMI-consistent D guys we have currently. The rest..well they are liabilities to say the least
- Braximous


Not sure they will turn this around. And the reason is the defense. Everyone can see Jack Johnson is a third pairing d-man. Unfortunately on this team that makes him the third best d-man.
BeefCoon
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 03.31.2016

Nov 20 @ 1:37 PM ET
I think the vast majority of us are good with option two. We’ve had an absurd amount of success in this era of Penguins hockey. The best thing to do IMO is to dump everything into maximizing these last few years to see if we can squeeze out one more Cup and then let Sid and Geno take a victory lap for a couple of seasons and retire Pens. Never seeing those two in another team’s sweater is more important to me than avoiding a rebuild.
- Victoro311


I agree completely.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
I think the vast majority of us are good with option two. We’ve had an absurd amount of success in this era of Penguins hockey. The best thing to do IMO is to dump everything into maximizing these last few years to see if we can squeeze out one more Cup and then let Sid and Geno take a victory lap for a couple of seasons and retire Pens. Never seeing those two in another team’s sweater is more important to me than avoiding a rebuild.
- Victoro311


Makes sense to me.
HiSticking
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: confluence
Joined: 05.04.2016

Nov 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
Rutherford reeled back trade talk with the PPG. He says its up to the players we have to turn it around and blah blah blah.

I interpret that as... "I do not want to appear so desperate to make a trade"

He also said trades are very difficult this time of year.

I interpret that as ... "Sprong and Maatta aren't worth what I expected"

- YouMeAndDupuis9


To me, this is a comment more suited coming from the coach and not the GM. JR's laying out the scapegoating. It's either his job or Sully's if the current roster is unable to play through and turn around their spiral. Start peeking over your shoulder Sully, the old man has knife in hand.

Pearson for Hagelin, so not too difficult there JR (baffoon).
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 20 @ 1:54 PM ET
To me, this is a comment more suited coming from the coach and not the GM. JR's laying out the scapegoating. It's either his job or Sully's if the current roster is unable to play through and turn around their spiral. Start peeking over your shoulder Sully, the old man has knife in hand.

Pearson for Hagelin, so not too difficult there JR (baffoon).

- HiSticking


He just got extended 3 years...he's not going anywhere any time soon.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
Max Domi has been everything for the Habs this year. Ahh what could've been.
- Thorny87

Domi had an 8.7% shooting percentage over 3 years in AZ and is now suddenly a 21.7% shooter? I think not.

Couple that with a 104.5 PDO and you have a guy who is likely to see some statistical regression in the near future.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
He's a moron. He'll come back to Earth eventually, unless you think Tatar suddenly morphed into a 35 goal, 65+ goal guy too.
- BINGO!



Edit and FYI Tatar has a shooting percentage just above his career average in DET. Change it to his number there and he drops 1 goal. His on ice sh% is in line with his career numbers too.

Don't disrespect my large adult son.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
He's a moron. He'll come back to Earth eventually, unless you think Tatar suddenly morphed into a 35 goal, 65+ goal guy too.
- BINGO!


Tatar is a 20-25 goal, 40-50 point guy though and that’s still pretty damn solid.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
Not sure they will turn this around. And the reason is the defense. Everyone can see Jack Johnson is a third pairing d-man. Unfortunately on this team that makes him the third best d-man.
- Thunderbolt


He’s not even a third pairing guy. Dudes a bum and shouldn’t even be in the league lol
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
I feel Tocchet was a big loss as well.
- 668710



I’m starting to think he was the biggest loss.
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