Back to the definition of insanity....
and trying to get that mjl guy to understand that coaches do impact a players drive, motivation and ability to reach down and get just a bit more.
- Konalover

The issues plaguing the Flyers that I'm talking about are not about motivation and reaching down to get just a little more. It's executing basic fundamentals that good teams and every NHL player should be able to do.

I'll repeat again, coaching is an results oriented business. I'm not against replacing Lappariere. Removing the players from blame and solely blaming the coach is what is wrong. Not recognizing that even if a coaching change is made, what I'm suggesting needs to be fixed and changed will still need to happen, is wrong. Not knowing what the actual issues are is what is laughable.
- MJL

Can't speak for all the posters here, but it seems you're reading their posts incorrectly. I don't think anyone who's posted today has said the players are without fault. They're simply saying replacing the coach is easier than replacing the players, and with the horrendous numbers on the PK there's no reason Lappy should still have his current position. If we could fire the players and use a time machine to bring back Kimmo and Pronger I'd be for that as well.

I'll repeat again, coaching is an results oriented business. I'm not against replacing Lappariere. Removing the players from blame and solely blaming the coach is what is wrong. Not recognizing that even if a coaching change is made, what I'm suggesting needs to be fixed and changed will still need to happen, is wrong. Not knowing what the actual issues are is what is laughable.
- MJL

Honestly I think most here know what the issues are. We watch the games. Fact is that it's easier to change the coach than to change the players. This has gone on long enough that something needs to be addressed. Is changing coaches the magic charm? Of course not. But it does send a message to the players that ish has to change and it starts now. A new voice delivering a message can be powerful.

coach is the leader too, confidence is huge in life. For 3 years Lappy hasn't found the right players to execute his system, be able to adjust his system or at this point have the players believe in the system.
- wcorvette

I think the mental side of the problem is where they could benefit from a new voice the most on the PK side of things.

A lot thought Hitch was 100% done also...
- dragonoffrost

From Pierre:
"So Ken Hitchcock un-retires. I spoke with Darryl Sutter yesterday about his retirement from coaching and whether he'd re-consider. Sutter said he's happy with his decision and isn't contemplating a return."

It's possible he returns but not probable.

I have to think Hitch having a chance to coach McJeebus was enticing like it would be for anyone.

I have to think Hitch having a chance to coach McJeebus was enticing like it would be for anyone.
- opeth_pa

He didn't like how it ended in Dallas, either. He would like to go out in the playoffs, as they all would

Nothing pompous about it. I asked why Stamkos was so wide open and you responded because he's one the most talented players in the league. Direct evidence.
- MJL

You obviously don't understand sarcasm as much as you breakdown all the plays.

Can't speak for all the posters here, but it seems you're reading their posts incorrectly. I don't think anyone who's posted today has said the players are without fault. They're simply saying replacing the coach is easier than replacing the players, and with the horrendous numbers on the PK there's no reason Lappy should still have his current position. If we could fire the players and use a time machine to bring back Kimmo and Pronger I'd be for that as well.
- EducatedOpinion

That's not the case. Many have said directly that replacing the coach is the easiest thing to do. I think you're wrong about the fault being assigned to the players. They should be getting the majority of the blame and the vitriol. That is not the case.

That was easy...BOOM. They just need to find a starter for next year

Giroux-Hughes-Konecny
JvR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Couturier-Vorobyov
Frost-Laughton-NAK
Weise

Provorov-Hagg
Morin-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
MacDonald
Myers


[Starter]
Lyon
Hart

Honestly I think most here know what the issues are. We watch the games. Fact is that it's easier to change the coach than to change the players. This has gone on long enough that something needs to be addressed. Is changing coaches the magic charm? Of course not. But it does send a message to the players that ish has to change and it starts now. A new voice delivering a message can be powerful.
- Scoob

I don't disagree with everything you say here but I don't agree that most know what the issues are. if that was the case, more would be directed at the players than the coaches.

You obviously don't understand sarcasm as much as you breakdown all the plays.
- youarewrong

You then asked whether I think Stamkos is one of the most talented players in the league. Nice try.

Let's move back to what is important. Why was Stamkos so wide open?

That was easy...BOOM. They just need to find a starter for next year

Giroux-Hughes-Konecny
JvR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Couturier-Vorobyov
Frost-Laughton-NAK
Weise

Provorov-Hagg
Morin-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
MacDonald
Myers



- Glak18[Starter]
Lyon
Hart

Straight to the top I love it

I don't disagree with everything you say here but I don't agree that most know what the issues are. if that was the case, more would be directed at the players than the coaches.
- MJL

Had the pk issues just popped up last year and this then yea more people would blame the players over the coach but the pk has been in the bottom half of the league since Lappy came in. I mean I agree the majority of the issues with the pk this year have been mental lapses by the players but there's zero reason why Lappy should still have a job after all of the years of bad pk teams

Had the pk issues just popped up last year and this then yea more people would blame the players over the coach but the pk has been in the bottom half of the league since Lappy came in. I mean I agree the majority of the issues with the pk this year have been mental lapses by the players but there's zero reason why Lappy should still have a job after all of the years of bad pk teams
- ajw12

I'm not against replacing Lappariere.

I'll state my position firmly.

Reasons why I'm not against firing Lappy.
Coaching is results oriented. That simple.
I think a reset and a new voice could help them get over the mental hurdles.


Reasons why I'm not advocating for the firing of Lappy.
The issues on the PK are simple fundamental breakdowns that are not the result of poor coaching or systems design.

Joel Quenneville sure looks eager to get back into coaching:

You then asked whether I think Stamkos is one of the most talented players in the league. Nice try.

Let's move back to what is important. Why was Stamkos so wide open?
- MJL

Probably Amac laying down again

Probably Amac laying down again
- Doctor DOOM

I'm not crazy about how MacDonald played that but that is not the reason.

Joel Quenneville sure looks eager to get back into coaching:


- johndewar

I bet Sutter looks the same.

Can't speak for all the posters here, but it seems you're reading their posts incorrectly. I don't think anyone who's posted today has said the players are without fault. They're simply saying replacing the coach is easier than replacing the players, and with the horrendous numbers on the PK there's no reason Lappy should still have his current position. If we could fire the players and use a time machine to bring back Kimmo and Pronger I'd be for that as well.
- EducatedOpinion

Thank you

I'm not crazy about how MacDonald played that but that is not the reason.
- MJL

Looks like someone forgot to be on the ice

All these clubs making coaching changes, and the Flyers continue the status quo.

Mother (frank)ing sigh.

The PK and goalie situation could have and should have been addressed, they weren't and the team is where there are because of that.

Looks like someone forgot to be on the ice
- Doctor DOOM

No that's not why but I can see why you would think that.

All these clubs making coaching changes, and the Flyers continue the status quo.

Mother (frank)ing sigh.
- flyer_nutter

It's November 20th. The Flyers improved by 10 points last season and finished 3rd in the Metro.