We can.

Especially when you see an organization like Chicago let go there Stanley Cup winning coach. Was it Quenneville's fault they were medicore? Did he somehow forget to coach?

Letting go a coach is the easiest move with really not much risk but could present rewards if things change.
- J35Bacher

It's not even that Lappy has a history as a successful PK coach. At this point, I'd settle for below average. At this point, there's really no place to go but up. I agree that a change of coach may or may not improve the PK, but Lappy has no track record to indicate that he will help it to improve.

what we know is this PK has been brutal under his handling for some time. To me that's more then enough.
- landros 2

Trade every player that kills penalties or fire the PK coach and try something new? Sounds easier to trade every guy that kills penalties.

O'Brien was hurt. Took a hit in a game.

Allison just got back to playing after recovering from the ACL injury.

Zamula I haven't followed much.
- J35Bacher

Cool, how about the goalie prospects other then Hart.

Sandstrom, Ustimenko.... those guys. Ustimenko has some really solid numbers. Just looking for people's opinions on these guys.

Last in the NHL in save % and PK %. Yet everything is status quo. Same coaches, same goaltenders. Hextall really doing a bang up job. Just tremendous.

How do you know?
- youarewrong

I look at the plays and breakdown where the issues are and what the problems are.

I’ve got to guess that Lappy will at least be moved within the organization in season regardless of how much blame goes where. The delay has to be setting up a replacement.
- NC Flyers Fan

for 3 years?

Mclellan out and replaced by Hitch in Edmonton

We can.

Especially when you see an organization like Chicago let go there Stanley Cup winning coach. Was it Quenneville's fault they were medicore? Did he somehow forget to coach?

Letting go a coach is the easiest move with really not much risk but could present rewards if things change.
- J35Bacher

Exactly. Of course Quenneville didn't forget how to coach. It is an easy move to make which is also why it's not an automatic fix.

Last in the NHL in save % and PK %. Yet everything is status quo. Same coaches, same goaltenders. Hextall really doing a bang up job. Just tremendous.
- PLindbergh31

I would imagine the PK has something to do with the sv%. I think Elliot is a fine goalie when healthy and not relied on every night. Thats why I think they should go after someone that would be cheap, like Anderson or Crawford.

Me: hears Lyons

My brain: Don't say it
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Me: It's LYON!!!
- Scoob

Lol that annoys me to no end

So the coach of the worst PK in the league, and one that has been bad for years, is completely blameless. Gotcha.
- BiggE

Didn't say that and you know I didn't. That is disingenuous on your part. I've said repeatedly that coaching is results oriented and that I'm not against replacing Lappy. All you and others are doing is blaming the coach. You don't even know why or what the breakdowns on the PK are and by who. When you break that down, you know it's not coaching.

Mclellan out and replaced by Hitch in Edmonton
- nastyflyergirl

some organizations have a lot more accountability then the modern Philadelphia Flyers have.

Mclellan out and replaced by Hitch in Edmonton
- nastyflyergirl

So much for retirement , would have loved to have Hitch back.

I look at the plays and breakdown where the issues are and what the problems are.
- MJL

And your also in the locker room to hear what Lappy is saying to the players to correct the issues?

Lord knows there has never been an instance where players ignored and could care less about what a coach says... not even in Ottawa.

Mclellan out and replaced by Hitch in Edmonton
- nastyflyergirl

Don't laugh, but Hitch might be the only guy in the sport who can make that roster make sense

McDavid isn't gonna love some of it, but Hitch might be the only person alive who could slow a game down enough for Lucic to produce

Didn't say that and you know I didn't. That is disingenuous on your part. I've said repeatedly that coaching is results oriented and that I'm not against replacing Lappy. All you and others are doing is blaming the coach. You don't even know why or what the breakdowns on the PK are and by who. When you break that down, you know it's not coaching.
- MJL

You are so wrong it’s laughable. When the same breakdowns keep happening again and again, it is on the coach because, for whatever reason, there is an obvious disconnect between the players and coach.

Didn't say that and you know I didn't. That is disingenuous on your part. I've said repeatedly that coaching is results oriented and that I'm not against replacing Lappy. All you and others are doing is blaming the coach. You don't even know why or what the breakdowns on the PK are and by who. When you break that down, you know it's not coaching.
- MJL

Do you realize how pompous this sounds?

And your also in the locker room to hear what Lappy is saying to the players to correct the issues?

Lord knows there has never been an instance where players ignored and could care less about what a coach says... not even in Ottawa.
- youarewrong

If the players don't want to get better and fix what they surely know is a major issue for the team than we have a bigger issue than Lappariere as an assistant coach. I know what coaches will normally do to correct issues. Video review, individual coaching on technique, simulated drills in practice, etc.

Exactly. Of course Quenneville didn't forget how to coach. It is an easy move to make which is also why it's not an automatic fix.
- MJL

I didn't say it's an automatic fix. But it's a move with least amount of risk tied to it and if it works then great.

Do you realize how pompous this sounds?
- youarewrong

Nothing pompous about it. I asked why Stamkos was so wide open and you responded because he's one the most talented players in the league. Direct evidence.

part of coaching is about getting your systems understood and performed by your players. Your message has to be received and followed...When a coach no longer is accomplishing that ….says captain obvious....how is that not a coaching issue? it is. Killing penalties and systems are not that hard to follow....these guys are not following what's being said or there simply terrible.

I didn't say it's an automatic fix. But it's a move with least amount of risk tied to it and if it works then great.
- J35Bacher

I know you didn't and I'm not against the move.

You are so wrong it’s laughable. When the same breakdowns keep happening again and again, it is on the coach because, for whatever reason, there is an obvious disconnect between the players and coach.
- BiggE

So the coach of the worst PK in the league, and one that has been bad for years, is completely blameless. Gotcha.
- BiggE

Back to the definition of insanity....
and trying to get that mjl guy to understand that coaches do impact a players drive, motivation and ability to reach down and get just a bit more.

some organizations have a lot more accountability then the modern Philadelphia Flyers have.
- landros 2

Flyers are just waiting to snap up Quenneville.