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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
No.

I could see Edmonton being interested in Simmonds though. Add him to Drasitl wing.

Simmonds for Puljujärvi and Khaira?

Khaira would be a fan favorite here. I think Puljujarvi could use a change and brings skill and size.

- J35Bacher


I don't see you getting both for Simmonds unless he is signed for a few years at a reasonable cap.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
If you can get Nylander for Simmonds, Myers and a 1st would you make the deal ?
- FreshFlyer


I think they need cost containment and a potential replacement along with D. Id wonder if they be interested in TK (cost containment), Gudas and a 2nd.

Slot Nylander into RW1
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
If the Kings decide to blow things up and Doughty becomes available do you guys think the Flyers should try and land him and what would you offer. Personally I think if they could get him for two 1sts, Myers and Vorobyev I would make the move. Idk if that would get it done though.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
Hell if they want to make it Simmonds and Hagg then sure.

The Flyers believed MacDonald was a top 4dman for years. Let’s see if the Leafs believe that too.

- flyer_nutter


Yeah Hagg is why Provy looks like crap this year...
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
If the Kings decide to blow things up and Doughty becomes available do you guys think the Flyers should try and land him and what would you offer. Personally I think if they could get him for two 1sts, Myers and Vorobyev I would make the move. Idk if that would get it done though.
- FreshFlyer


no
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
If the Kings decide to blow things up and Doughty becomes available do you guys think the Flyers should try and land him and what would you offer. Personally I think if they could get him for two 1sts, Myers and Vorobyev I would make the move. Idk if that would get it done though.
- FreshFlyer

If Im Rob Blake and you want Doughty, I’m asking for:

Ghost
Konecny
Frost
2019 1st unprotected

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Yeah Hagg is why Provy looks like crap this year...
- Glak18


I’m actually a Hagg low key fan. He’s improved this year and it’s nice to see. He’s limited but I don’t mind him.

Out of Myers, Sanheim and Hagg I would be most willing to lose Robert though.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
I think they need cost containment and a potential replacement along with D. Id wonder if they be interested in TK (cost containment), Gudas and a 2nd.

Slot Nylander into RW1

- juiced


Toronto is winning without Matthews and Nylander, they don't need Konecny and a scratched Gudas. They need a young top 4 defenseman. Only way Nylander is going to be a Flyer is for Provorov, Ghost or Sanheim+. Nylander is not an option for the Flyers no matter how much junk is added.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
If the Kings decide to blow things up and Doughty becomes available do you guys think the Flyers should try and land him and what would you offer. Personally I think if they could get him for two 1sts, Myers and Vorobyev I would make the move. Idk if that would get it done though.
- FreshFlyer

Doughty is a turnover machine making $9M i believe, no thanks. I'll take Muzzin on the cheap though.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
If the Kings decide to blow things up and Doughty becomes available do you guys think the Flyers should try and land him and what would you offer. Personally I think if they could get him for two 1sts, Myers and Vorobyev I would make the move. Idk if that would get it done though.
- FreshFlyer


Nope. I think the Flyers as a group actually have a pretty solid collection of talent that is being misused. I think more talent is on the way and would not look to make huge changes with the exception of Simmonds.

You’ve got the makings of a solid dgroup here. I do think Prov either came back too early or is still playing through some stuff. It’s a huge change in him this season.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Doughty is a turnover machine making $9M i believe, no thanks. I'll take Muzzin on the cheap though.
- ClaudeFather

If you think Doughty wouldn't improve this team dramatically then idk man. Dude is a great d man
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
If you think Doughty wouldn't improve this team dramatically then idk man. Dude is a great d man
- FreshFlyer


He is. He becomes the number one dman on this team immediately.

I’ll let the hammer drop here so to so speak, I think it’s a pointless move if they decide to keep on the coaching staff. That’s problem one and everything else is just a bandaid to cover up for it. Address that first, and go from there.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Nope. I think the Flyers as a group actually have a pretty solid collection of talent that is being misused. I think more talent is on the way and would not look to make huge changes with the exception of Simmonds.

You’ve got the makings of a solid dgroup here. I do think Prov either came back too early or is still playing through some stuff. It’s a huge change in him this season.

- flyer_nutter

I feel ya I'm just thinking that if something doesn't go right soon we're going to see some sort of big deal made. I mean it's been the same core of players for roughly 7 years and the same coach for 4. If they lose the next 3 and don't make any changes Hextall isn't doing his job correctly. Not saying they should go out and get Doughty but something needs to happen.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
I’m actually a Hagg low key fan. He’s improved this year and it’s nice to see. He’s limited but I don’t mind him.

Out of Myers, Sanheim and Hagg I would be most willing to lose Robert though.

- flyer_nutter


I get it his skating is not very good, but he has been easily the most consistent blueliner this year for the team. If he had Sanheim's skating ability then he would be amazing, but Sanheim has Sanheim's skating ability and he hasn't generated that much offense or been mistake free. I mean what more can you ask of a 2nd round pick? I hope Ginning can be Hagg too.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
I get it his skating is not very good, but he has been easily the most consistent blueliner this year for the team. If he had Sanheim's skating ability then he would be amazing, but Sanheim has Sanheim's skating ability and he hasn't generated that much offense or been mistake free. I mean what more can you ask of a 2nd round pick? I hope Ginning can be Hagg too.
- Glak18


I’m very cool with Hagg, in a much lesser role in the future. I do think it’s probably down to either him or Morin at some point with Myers eventually coming up.

Expansion draft also looms.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Nov 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Toronto is winning without Matthews and Nylander, they don't need Konecny and a scratched Gudas. They need a young top 4 defenseman. Only way Nylander is going to be a Flyer is for Provorov, Ghost or Sanheim+. Nylander is not an option for the Flyers no matter how much junk is added.
- Glak18



Who on that team does Gudas sit for???
Reilly is doing well offensively, but after that you have Hainsey, Gardiner, Zaitsev and Marincin...possibly Dermott. Plus, Gardiner is in the trade rumor column daily. Gudas is a 2nd pair guy with them all day. Plus he would add toughness which they have none of.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
If you think Doughty wouldn't improve this team dramatically then idk man. Dude is a great d man
- FreshFlyer


Everyone looks like crap when the team is losing. It is no different than my statement about Nashville yesterday. Rinne was the most overrated player in the NHL a few years ago...now everyone would take him in a heartbeat. It's a rollercoaster ride.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
I get it his skating is not very good, but he has been easily the most consistent blueliner this year for the team. If he had Sanheim's skating ability then he would be amazing, but Sanheim has Sanheim's skating ability and he hasn't generated that much offense or been mistake free. I mean what more can you ask of a 2nd round pick? I hope Ginning can be Hagg too.
- Glak18

Hagg is a solid d man. Doesn't do anything to fancy out there but he plays the game the right way. Once all the prospects get incorporated into the d corpse I can see him being a staple on the 3rd pair for years to come.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
Everyone looks like crap when the team is losing. It is no different than my statement about Nashville yesterday. Rinne was the most overrated player in the NHL a few years ago...now everyone would take him in a heartbeat. It's a rollercoaster ride.
- Glak18


Rinne was imo the reason Nashville loses in the WC semis last season. I’m team Saros.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 20 @ 2:42 PM ET
Who on that team does Gudas sit for???
Reilly is doing well offensively, but after that you have Hainsey, Gardiner, Zaitsev and Marincin...possibly Dermott. Plus, Gardiner is in the trade rumor column daily. Gudas is a 2nd pair guy with them all day. Plus he would add toughness which they have none of.

- juiced


I haven't seen Marincin at all this year. Dermott has been playing well then you have Ozhiganov. Hainsey is an anchor on the top pair, but no way Gudas is taking that spot. Zaitsev is just a better Gudas.

That's like trading Simmonds for Marincin and the Leafs saying he is better than what you have.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 20 @ 2:44 PM ET
If Im Rob Blake and you want Doughty, I’m asking for:

Ghost
Konecny
Frost
2019 1st unprotected

- BiggE

That's a big ask. I completely agree.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Rinne was imo the reason Nashville loses in the WC semis last season. I’m team Saros.
- flyer_nutter

I'd take Rhinne.

I'd quit my job and get in my car right now.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 20 @ 2:45 PM ET
Rinne was imo the reason Nashville loses in the WC semis last season. I’m team Saros.
- flyer_nutter

That's a situation I'd be keeping an eye on if I'm the Flyers. I'm team Saros as well but if they decide to get rid of Rinne he'd be a good pickup for us.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
I'd take Rhinne.

I'd quit my job and get in my car right now.

- mayorofangrytown


Are we talking on the Flyers?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
I don't think they need to trade for a defenseman or Nylander. They can score enough and while the defense isn't sexy, there are worse out there

If Hextall is firing trade bullets, they need a goalie and a 3C who has shown they can legitimately lead a penalty kill, and another PK winger for the fourth line

I know some will disagree, but I don't care if Hart gets blocked by bringing in a legit goalie. You didn't sign JVR to piss this season away, and there's no telling when Hart will be ready -- or if he ever will. We all want him to be successful but the Flyers are trying to win now, otherwise JVR wouldn't be here
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