But why would he
- TheMussel

He wouldnt. He wants to win a cup, and the Leafs give him that chance.

I'm not so sure if Nylander is being "greedy" - it's more him not wanting to sign a sucker deal while Marner and Matthews walk away with a major bounty.

Having said that, a short bridge deal signed at the beginning of the season would have been his best bet. Prove he can put up the numbers and then sign a monster. Unfortunately for him, Dubas is playing hardball -- I really think Nylander's camp understimated Dubas' fortitude. He's in a tough position himself as a rookie GM: he has to play tough as it's going to set the bar for deals going forward on multiple fronts.
- mjones242

a 6 million dollar sucker deal, Sign me up... FFS, he is not worth more.

In what world is he waiving it?

If he wants a cup before he retires, who is he going to go to that gives him a better chance?
- BINGO!

This is like when I heard Phaneuf and Clarkson's deal were never going to be moved.

If the Leafs tell him they want to move on he does not stay.

This is like when I heard Phaneuf and Clarkson's deal were never going to be moved.

If the Leafs tell him they want to move on he does not stay.
- RogerRoeper

He can always be flown out to Horton Island.

He wouldnt. He wants to win a cup, and the Leafs give him that chance.
- Archaic

I'm also guessing that after making a difficult decision to leave the only professional hockey team he's ever played for to join a budding and promising team, he probably doesn't want to get shipped around the NHL's basement like a village bicycle

I'm also guessing that after making a difficult decision to leave the only professional hockey team he's ever played for to join a budding and promising team, he probably doesn't want to get shipped around the NHL's basement like a village bicycle
- TheMussel

Zona is beautiful this time of year.

I'm also guessing that after making a difficult decision to leave the only professional hockey team he's ever played for to join a budding and promising team, he probably doesn't want to get shipped around the NHL's basement like a village bicycle
- TheMussel

He was offered a 2 year/4.5 million deal by San Jose. It wasn't that hard at all.

Zona is beautiful this time of year.
- bixll

Arizona will want Marleau so bad. 1.15 million in $ with a 6.25 cap hit.

I think that's why he went there in the first place.

Sabres wing depth is so poopty that he was going to be the go-to guy on LW in all situations. Boost his value in a contract year.
- BINGO!

cant wait for a nylander - skinner $17M line on some bottom feeder next season

From TSN Radio:

Does Nylander become the most hated Leaf of all-time if he's traded?

Except for the whole no movement clause thing
- TheMussel

the fact is; he doesn't care about playing for a contender.

there's just no way he would like to join the Triple Gold Club, or even join Forsberg, Fetisov and Larionov in the Double Triple Gold Club

the fact is; he doesn't care about playing for a contender.

there's just no way he would like to join the Triple Gold Club, or even join Forsberg, Fetisov and Larionov in the Double Triple Gold Club
- 21peter

Notice how only with this subject matter because it hurts the Leafs will non-Leaf fans call the Leafs a contender

Why not, they have money coming off the books in the next couple years. Horton/Marleau/Gardiner and the cap will continue to rise. The Leafs will be fine.

With that being said, i dont think Dubas realized how high Nylanders greed level would be
- Archaic

Too bad that the Leafs couldn't get progressive and trade a player like Andreas Johnsson for a 3rd or 4th rounder, but as part of the deal, the remaining years of dead money that the Leafs are paying on Phil Kessel's contract. It's around $2 million AAV, for about another 4 years. That $2 million per, could go a long way to getting the big 3 RFA's and Gardiner signed.

I think he will be booed even if he returns to Toronto

From TSN Radio:

Does Nylander become the most hated Leaf of all-time if he's traded?
- bixll

you have to be a fan favorite first to become most hated Leaf of all-time.
if Nylander gets traded, the return will be good to very good.
so people will forget Nylander easily, in particular if he's traded to a team in the West.

He was offered a 2 year/4.5 million deal by San Jose. It wasn't that hard at all.
- RogerRoeper

So I guess Nylander's not back next year

Too bad that the Leafs couldn't get progressive and trade a player like Andreas Johnsson for a 3rd or 4th rounder, but as part of the deal, the remaining years of dead money that the Leafs are paying on Phil Kessel's contract. It's around $2 million AAV, for about another 4 years. That $2 million per, could go a long way to getting the big 3 RFA's and Gardiner signed.
- PrinceLH

Gardiner should not be signed. Dermott is looking really good and is a younger, better, cheaper DMan. And I am no Gardiner hater.

Too bad that the Leafs couldn't get progressive and trade a player like Andreas Johnsson for a 3rd or 4th rounder, but as part of the deal, the remaining years of dead money that the Leafs are paying on Phil Kessel's contract. It's around $2 million AAV, for about another 4 years. That $2 million per, could go a long way to getting the big 3 RFA's and Gardiner signed.
- PrinceLH

Kessel costs us 1.2 per

So I guess Nylander's not back next year
- TheMussel

If he takes 6.5-7 million per he will.

If he takes 6.5-7 million per he will.
- RogerRoeper

But if other teams are willing to sign him for over 7, he'll just go chasing those dollars

If he takes 6.5-7 million per he will.
- RogerRoeper

He has 11 days to decide.

I'm also guessing that after making a difficult decision to leave the only professional hockey team he's ever played for to join a budding and promising team, he probably doesn't want to get shipped around the NHL's basement like a village bicycle
- TheMussel

The only theory that gives some hope is this ....PM wanted to play 2 more years and was getting a few offers. Leafs offered him a contract that will let him play those two years and make 17.5 for two years of work. He agrees to waive the NMC in year 3 and gets traded to a cozy western golf community and gets a Zetterburg/Hossa/Datsyuk-like skin disorder that final year allowing him to retire.

Starting in September of 2019 PM will be making tiny dollars on his bi-weekly paycheque so maybe ...maybe ...there was no intent on him playing that final year.

Maybe ...

He was offered a 2 year/4.5 million deal by San Jose. It wasn't that hard at all.
- RogerRoeper

The NMC was crucial to getting him to leave.

But if other teams are willing to sign him for over 7, he'll just go chasing those dollars
- TheMussel

I could see all of this if we were the Oilers,,,, or Buffalo. But, he has a chance to win in the next few years.

From TSN Radio:

Does Nylander become the most hated Leaf of all-time if he's traded?
- bixll

probably. if he misses a season he'll also be seen as a yashin/peca type and won't get much respect from fans/media in the future too.