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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
Would you make this trade?
Travis hamonic
M tkachuk

To leafs
For
Josh Leivo
W nylander

- BreathLeafs2015

I think i would.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Leafs would accept this trade in 0.1 seconds
huge overpayment by Calgary

- plantheparade


Huge overpayment?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
Huge overpayment?
- senstroll


Max gives Willie zero value. 0..
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
Ya its kinda a dream for people to think a guy who spent most of his career with one, then signs a 3 year deal with only his 2nd team is gonna agree to relocate his family to a 3rd team via agreeing to a trade to a crapoy team.
Wake up people.

- Fakepartofme


that's not the "scheme". He'd be relocating to wherever the hell he wants and hanging up his skates - assuming that's what he wanted in the first place (which none of know).

But Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, ..and eventually Luongo and a few others all rode a similar train.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
Max gives Willie zero value. 0..
- bixll


Tkachuk and Willy N are equal in value
Hamonic quite a bit better than Leivo - and I like Leivo.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Huge overpayment?
- senstroll

Dont think its a overpayment but it looks like a decent trade.
MT could easily get 60pts on this team
Imo.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
Tkachuk and Willy N are equal in value
Hamonic quite a bit better than Leivo - and I like Leivo.

- plantheparade

Tkachuk brings back the truculence. Far better player.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
The dream is that the Sharks would take him back.

I'm doing a quick peek at their cap room - nothing this year. But they do have a lot coming off the boards for next year - Pavelski, Thornton, Karlsson. That's $17.5 million.

If you let one of those guys walk, you probably have enough room to take back Marleau - which is a bit of a no-brainer if you do it on July 2nd.

- Atomic Wedgie


I'm not buying the Wedgie version of the scheme b/c I think the Sharks will want that cap space. The theory I tossed out when he signed this contract was that the 3rd year was a red herring - a distraction. The real contract was always 17.5 over 2 years. Marleau gets paid a lot of cash but has to agree to waive his NMC next summer and the Leafs get to take a stab at moving his 3rd year cap hit to the 'Yotes for a draft pick on July 2nd. PM retires in July (assuming that was always his plan) and the Leafs get the cap space and the Yotes get a pick/prospect.

Everybody's happy ...except for that EMO 'nucks fan.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
I'm not buying the Wedgie version of the scheme b/c I think the Sharks will want that cap space. The theory I tossed out when he signed this contract was that the 3rd year was a red herring - a distraction. The real contract was always 17.5 over 2 years. Marleau gets paid a lot of cash but has to agree to waive his NMC next summer and the Leafs get to take a stab at moving his 3rd year cap hit to the 'Yotes for a draft pick on July 2nd. PM retires in July (assuming that was always his plan) and the Leafs get the cap space and the Yotes get a pick/prospect.

Everybody's happy ...except for that EMO 'nucks fan.

- The Law


Marleau is still playing well - he'll likely want to add at least 1 year after his current contract runs out. Not going to retire soon.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
I get so tired of this nylander thing. Kinda stresses a lot of us. Consumed with it daily. Wondering what will be. Restless leaf nation
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
Tkachuk brings back the truculence. Far better player.
- drexel

Yea that’s why I suggested him. He brings a tremendous level of excitement to game
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm not buying the Wedgie version of the scheme b/c I think the Sharks will want that cap space. The theory I tossed out when he signed this contract was that the 3rd year was a red herring - a distraction. The real contract was always 17.5 over 2 years. Marleau gets paid a lot of cash but has to agree to waive his NMC next summer and the Leafs get to take a stab at moving his 3rd year cap hit to the 'Yotes for a draft pick on July 2nd. PM retires in July (assuming that was always his plan) and the Leafs get the cap space and the Yotes get a pick/prospect.

Everybody's happy ...except for that EMO 'nucks fan.

- The Law

For the record, the Wedgie version of the scheme is mutual termination of contract on July 2nd - which saves us flipping the Coyotes a 2nd round draft pick.

Getting Marleau to retire may sound like a pipe dream now, but after the Leafs win the Stanley Cup in June, it will be a lot easier.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
For the record, the Wedgie version of the scheme is mutual termination of contract on July 2nd - which saves us flipping the Coyotes a 2nd round draft pick.

Getting Marleau to retire may sound like a pipe dream now, but after the Leafs win the Stanley Cup in June, it will be a lot easier.

- Atomic Wedgie

That's a factor you have to take into account.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Dont think its a overpayment but it looks like a decent trade.
MT could easily get 60pts on this team
Imo.

- Fakepartofme


And punch some faces when teams get into AM or MM's grilles.

Although he'll be demanding the same contract as WN this coming summer. And Father Tkachuk had some contractual disputes over his time as well (signed an offer sheet).
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Tkachuk brings back the truculence. Far better player.
- drexel

Nylander is an over-rated crybaby.

A greedy P.O.S.

A soft, floaty, selfish piece of human garbage who can go frank himself for all I care.









Unless he signs a reasonable contract and remains with the Leafs.

Then he's fantastic, baaaaay-beeeeeeeee!
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
Nylander is an over-rated crybaby.

A greedy P.O.S.

A soft, floaty, selfish piece of human garbage who can go frank himself for all I care.


Unless he signs a reasonable contract and remains with the Leafs.

Then he's fantastic, baaaaay-beeeeeeeee!

- Atomic Wedgie



Bang on.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
For the record, the Wedgie version of the scheme is mutual termination of contract on July 2nd - which saves us flipping the Coyotes a 2nd round draft pick.

Getting Marleau to retire may sound like a pipe dream now, but after the Leafs win the Stanley Cup in June, it will be a lot easier.

- Atomic Wedgie


14-6 Baby !!!
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
Tkachuk brings back the truculence. Far better player.
- drexel

M tkachuk is beast friends with A Matthews


Can you imagine:
M tkachuk A Matthews K Kapanen?!!
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
And punch some faces when teams get into AM or MM's grilles.

Although he'll be demanding the same contract as WN this coming summer. And Father Tkachuk had some contractual disputes over his time as well (signed an offer sheet).

- The Law



And have the team in penalty trouble all the time with bad penalties.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
M tkachuk is beast friends with A Matthews


Can you imagine:
M tkachuk A Matthews K Kapanen?!!

- BreathLeafs2015


Beast friends eh, I guess you could say... they're familiar?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
And punch some faces when teams get into AM or MM's grilles.

Although he'll be demanding the same contract as WN this coming summer. And Father Tkachuk had some contractual disputes over his time as well
(signed an offer sheet).

- The Law

IIRC, he held out one year (back when you could do that under the CBA.

As a result, the local fans (I think it was when he was with St. Louis) nicknamed him GSP - short for Gravy-Sucking Pig.

True story

Edit: Phoenix fans.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
Marleau plays next year IMO

Leafs will figure it out, my guess is a bridge for 1 or 2 of the big 3
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
IIRC, he held out one year (back when you could do that under the CBA.

As a result, the local fans (I think it was when he was with St. Louis) nicknamed him GSP - short for Gravy-Sucking Pig.

True story

- Atomic Wedgie


Lol ..that's great. Somebody needs to get to work on Willie's nickname!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 19 @ 3:16 PM ET
Lol ..that's great. Somebody needs to get to work on Willie's nickname!
- The Law

Big Willie.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
And have the team in penalty trouble all the time with bad penalties.
- bixll


Ya, but what's our +/- when we're down a man? We're living the dream Bixy ...
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