Eliott's ES save percentage is .931. Among the better goaltenders in the league. Imagine if the Flyers tighten up defensively and manage the puck better.
- MJL

Elliott is fine IMO, but the problem...he is injured now for 2 weeks and that doesn't mean he will be back at 100% or aggravate the injury again.

Even if Elliott is able to start 50 games, which would be the most one could optimistically expect, who is starting the other 32? Neuvirth? Good luck with that. Pickard, Lyon? Maybe they work out, but it’s risky.

I don’t want them to expend major assets for a goalie, but if at some point, you can acquire a legit NHL goalie for something like a 3rd round pick, you do it.
- BiggE

Depending on the cost Crawford could be a possible short term solution. Having two starters who play 50 some games as a 1A and 1B. Then you have a 1 year Crawford next year. Again depends on cost.

Even if Elliott is able to start 50 games, which would be the most one could optimistically expect, who is starting the other 32? Neuvirth? Good luck with that. Pickard, Lyon? Maybe they work out, but it’s risky.

I don’t want them to expend major assets for a goalie, but if at some point, you can acquire a legit NHL goalie for something like a 3rd round pick, you do it.
- BiggE

The last 3 seasons, Neuvirth has started 32, 28 and 22 games. Pickard has already played 8 and someone is going to play until Elliott is ready to come back. I don't trust or have faith in Neuvirth either but I think you might get 20 games out of him. I don't know what his current issue is.

Depending on the cost Crawford could be a possible short term solution. Having two starters who play 50 some games as a 1A and 1B. Then you have a 1 year Crawford next year. Again depends on cost.
- Glak18

I’d definitely have interest in Crawford and with his age and cost, I doubt it would cost more than a 2nd round pick or a 3rd and a non top prospect.

The last 3 seasons, Neuvirth has started 32, 28 and 22 games. Pickard has already played 8 and someone is going to play until Elliott is ready to come back. I don't trust or have faith in Neuvirth either but I think you might get 20 games out of him. I don't know what his current issue is.
- MJL

So basically each year Neuvirth has started less games than the previous season and, 20 games into the current season, he’s barely been healthy at all. Yeah, that’s reassuring. Thanks for the chuckle.

The Flyers gave up a 3rd for Mrazek last season. Now they should give up another 3rd. I'd do what Hextall is doing. Sit tight and roll the dice. Flyers drafted Gostisbehere with a 3rd round pick.

So basically each year Neuvirth has started less games than the previous season and, 20 games into the current season, he’s barely been healthy at all. Yeah, that’s reassuring. Thanks for the chuckle.
- BiggE

It wasn't meant to be reassuring. Thanks for the chuckle also.

Elliott is fine IMO, but the problem...he is injured now for 2 weeks and that doesn't mean he will be back at 100% or aggravate the injury again.
- Glak18

2 weeks suggest a minor injury to me. Injuries are always a risk. It's compounded by the Neuvirth situation.

2 weeks suggest a minor injury to me. Injuries are always a risk. It's compounded by the Neuvirth situation.
- MJL

Well if the Flyers can weather the storm until Elliott comes back, assuming he can be back 100% or stay healthy, then that would be optimal.

Before they can upgrade anything they need to fix the roller coaster of motivation, when to show up. Is it an overnight fix? Yes, it is because they showed they can make the switch in 1 period.

The Flyers gave up a 3rd for Mrazek last season. Now they should give up another 3rd. I'd do what Hextall is doing. Sit tight and roll the dice. Flyers drafted Gostisbehere with a 3rd round pick.
- MJL

Flyers gave a 3rd for Mrazek last season. Hextall should've done something to not end up in the exact same situation again.

3rd rounders generally aren't chock full of Gostibeheres. That's like saying the Wings should never ever move a 7th rounder because they got Datsyk there once.

Flyers gave a 3rd for Mrazek last season. Hextall should've done something to not end up in the exact same situation again.

3rd rounders generally aren't chock full of Gostibeheres. That's like saying the Wings should never ever move a 7th rounder because they got Datsyk there once.
- hereticpride

You're not considering all the factors. Who is available and for what. Ridiculous to compare a 3rd rounder to a 7th rounder. All we read on this board was how the Flyers need to stop giving up draft picks to try and win now under Holmgren. How the team hasn't drafted and developed players from the later rounds due to not having enough picks and increasing the odds and getting a good player. Now panic and impatience has crept back into the fan base. Lot bigger issues with this team than goaltending.

So are we going to see Lyon in net on Wednesday? If not, definitely Friday, right?

Flyers gave a 3rd for Mrazek last season. Hextall should've done something to not end up in the exact same situation again.

3rd rounders generally aren't chock full of Gostibeheres. That's like saying the Wings should never ever move a 7th rounder because they got Datsyk there once.
- hereticpride

Flyers also have two 3rd round picks this year, so they can still get a Ghost....
I am fearful Elliott becomes another Neuvirth with injuries and games played. The most games he ever played in 1 season was 55 in 2009/2010 a long time ago
He averages more like 43-44 games a year

Depending on the cost Crawford could be a possible short term solution. Having two starters who play 50 some games as a 1A and 1B. Then you have a 1 year Crawford next year. Again depends on cost.
- Glak18

I like the idea of Crawford or Lundquist.

I just think both require atleast a first round pick and an "A" quality prospect.

Flyers also have two 3rd round picks this year, so they can still get a Ghost....
I am fearful Elliott becomes another Neuvirth with injuries and games played. The most games he ever played in 1 season was 55 in 2009/2010 a long time ago
He averages more like 43-44 games a year
- flyhoc

I have Elliott in mind for 45; 50 just feels too optimistic.

You're not considering all the factors. Who is available and for what. Ridiculous to compare a 3rd rounder to a 7th rounder. All we read on this board was how the Flyers need to stop giving up draft picks to try and win now under Holmgren. How the team hasn't drafted and developed players from the later rounds due to not having enough picks and increasing the odds and getting a good player. Now panic and impatience has crept back into the fan base. Lot bigger issues with this team than goaltending.
- MJL

Not comapring a 3rd to a 7th. You cited an extreme for not moving a 3rd. The Flyers could keep their 3rds for the next twenty years and not get another Gostibehere.

I’d definitely have interest in Crawford and with his age and cost, I doubt it would cost more than a 2nd round pick or a 3rd and a non top prospect.
- BiggE

I disagree.

Crawford is everything to Chicago. When Crawford is out of the line-up, that team is a bottom 5 team. With Crawford, they kinda have a shot at wild card spot... Kinda, almost.

I like the idea of Crawford or Lundquist.

I just think both require atleast a first round pick and an "A" quality prospect.
- ggunky

Hank sounds like he has no interest in leaving the Rags unfortunately. Crawford is probably as good as it's going to get in terms of getting an experienced, reliable starter.

Not comapring a 3rd to a 7th. You cited an extreme for not moving a 3rd. The Flyers could keep their 3rds for the next twenty years and not get another Gostibehere.
- hereticpride

That's complete bull that I cited an extreme. Quality players are drafted in the 3rd round every year. They definitely won't get another Gostisbehere in the 3rd round if they trade them away. That is a guarantee. Yes you did compare a 3rd to a 7th.

That's complete bull that I cited an extreme. Quality players are drafted in the 3rd round every year. They definitely won't get another Gostisbehere in the 3rd round if they trade them away. That is a guarantee.
- MJL

It is certainly an extreme to say don't trade a 3rd and cite Gostisbehere as your example. No other way to cut it.

There is what, about 30 picks in every round? Go find me 10 Gostibehere's a year taken in the 3rd. Hell, find me 5.

It is certainly an extreme to say don't trade a 3rd and cite Gostisbehere as your example. No other way to cut it.

There is what, about 30 picks in every round? Go find me 10 Gostibehere's a year taken in the 3rd. Hell, find me 5.
- hereticpride

That's absurd. Now if I had said you can get a Gostisbehere in every draft with a 3rd round pick, that would be an extreme. The percentage of drafting an NHL player in the 3rd round is about 30%. The idea is that the more picks you have and use, the more chances you have to find an NHL player. Yes, the very reason why you don't trade a 3rd round pick is because you might get a good player. Look through the NHL draft history and see a lot of good players chosen in the 3rd round or later.

No interest in Hank at this phase of his career.

Crawford coming off his drama last year and having won multiple cups I would go for within reason.

If the Hawks are looking for Provy , no thanks.
If Hagg and a pick gets it done sign me up.

I like the idea of Crawford or Lundquist.

I just think both require atleast a first round pick and an "A" quality prospect.
- ggunky

No way I give up that much for Crawford, he is a slightly better Elliott. Rags and Flyers make a trade...how often does that happen?

No way I give up that much for Crawford, he is a slightly better Elliott. Rags and Flyers make a trade...how often does that happen?
- Glak18

Maybe we can get them to trade with TB then get him from TB.

If you can get Bobrovsky without giving up assets that’s where I’d like to look. Nothing wrong with having Hart develop slowly, similar to say a guy like Saros.

Other options I’d have interest in:
Dubnyk - depends on if Minny decides to rebuild. With a new GM and likely another early playoff exit, here is to hoping.

Crawford

Regarding the goalies, it’s beyond time for Lyon to get some games. Believe he hits UFA not next season but the one after? Pickard is a 5$ back alley Sally for a reason. If you develop these kids, they need a chance to play.