In terms of moving big name players like Hartnell and Schenn, I think Hextall has been pretty ballsy as GM. And while I have wanted Hak gone for a year, I get why he's reluctant to fire his first coaching hire with almost 2 years and $10m left on his contract. But there's only one word to describe his refusal to replace the coach of the league's worst penalty kill: cowardly.

Literally every single time Hextall face the media from now on, multiple reporters should be asking him what he plans to do about his team having the worst PK% in the league since he became GM. If they don't, they're cowards, too.
- Feanor

Its a results oriented business. Any coach responsible for anything that is at the bottom of any league in any sport for going on 4 years would lose their job.

Yeah yeah yeah, Lappy cant be out there himself while players are whiffing on clearing attempts yadda yadda yadda, but enough is enough. He should have been gone after year, YEAR, (as in WHOLE season) two of being at the bottom.

So what do they do? They fire the coach of the successful PP.

Lappy needs to go two seasons ago.

You have to remove Konecny because you aren't getting Carter for free.
- MJL

I doubt its going to take a piece as big as Konecny. Maybe a decent prospect and a pick. LA has very little in the way of upcoming talent and are pushing against the limits of the cap. I would imagine Aube-Kubel or Voroboyov and a high draft pick could get it done...

I doubt its going to take a piece as big as Konecny. Maybe a decent prospect and a pick. LA has very little in the way of upcoming talent and are pushing against the limits of the cap. I would imagine Aube-Kubel or Voroboyov and a high draft pick could get it done...
- youarewrong

How high are we talking here?

Otherwise I think you are underestimating what it would take. As a lot of teams would beat that offer in their sleep....

Its a results oriented business. Any coach responsible for anything that is at the bottom of any league in any sport for going on 4 years would lose their job.

Yeah yeah yeah, Lappy cant be out there himself while players are whiffing on clearing attempts yadda yadda yadda, but enough is enough. He should have been gone after year, YEAR, (as in WHOLE season) two of being at the bottom.

So what do they do? They fire the coach of the successful PP.

Lappy needs to go two seasons ago.
- MBFlyerfan

Not just puck clearing trouble but the personnel on the PK itself. I like Couturier there, I like Laughton there. Giroux is more then capable. With this said, everyone else is a head scratcher. Why is Weise out there? Why was Konecny tried on the PK in training camp?

The Flyers have a real opportunity to unload Lehtera, Raffl, Folin abs Weal this summer to upgrade the bottom nine. I’ll understand if Lappy gets fired sooner but we need the people as well.

I doubt its going to take a piece as big as Konecny. Maybe a decent prospect and a pick. LA has very little in the way of upcoming talent and are pushing against the limits of the cap. I would imagine Aube-Kubel or Voroboyov and a high draft pick could get it done...
- youarewrong

If we’re trading for Jeff Carter, you still have to give up a pretty big chunk. Jeff Carter is still a name, at a decent age and capable of producing. My assumption would be Konecny, a prospect and a draft pick. Or maybe a high draft pick and a young roster player.

Not just puck clearing trouble but the personnel on the PK itself. I like Couturier there, I like Laughton there. Giroux is more than capable. With this every, everyone else is a head scratcher. Why is Weise out there? Why was Konecny tried on the PK in training camp?

The Flyers have a real opportunity to unload Lehtera, Raffl, Folin abs Weal this summer to upgrade the bottom nine. I’ll understand if Lappy gets fired sooner but we need the people as well.
- SuperSchennBros

Gotta agree there, because in the end, ideally you don't want to HAVE to use your first line center and wing to kill penalties night in and night out.

I will also add I don't think our defense as currently staffed has great penalty killers. Morin and Meyers may change that in the future, but right now.....meh

If we’re trading for Jeff Carter, you still have to give up a pretty big chunk. Jeff Carter is still a name, at a decent age and capable of producing. My assumption would be Konecny, a prospect and a draft pick. Or maybe a high draft pick and a young roster player.
- SuperSchennBros

No chance in hell would I give that up for a 33 yr old Jeff Carter.

In terms of moving big name players like Hartnell and Schenn, I think Hextall has been pretty ballsy as GM. And while I have wanted Hak gone for a year, I get why he's reluctant to fire his first coaching hire with almost 2 years and $10m left on his contract. But there's only one word to describe his refusal to replace the coach of the league's worst penalty kill: cowardly.

Literally every single time Hextall face the media from now on, multiple reporters should be asking him what he plans to do about his team having the worst PK% in the league since he became GM. If they don't, they're cowards, too.
- Feanor

How can you expect to have any credibility whatsoever by labeling not firing Lappariere as cowardly? Seriously, that's comical. Why would he be afraid to do that?

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I doubt its going to take a piece as big as Konecny. Maybe a decent prospect and a pick. LA has very little in the way of upcoming talent and are pushing against the limits of the cap. I would imagine Aube-Kubel or Voroboyov and a high draft pick could get it done...
- youarewrong

If you were the Kings GM what would you ask for?

Ghost + OT = loss
- hockeyal

blaming Ghost on a play that was Simmonds fault? Simmonds took him on the outside (closer to the boards). Jesus you need to take him on the inside to prevent him from getting to the net

blaming Ghost on a play that was Simmonds fault? Simmonds took him on the outside (closer to the boards). Jesus you need to take him on the inside to prevent him from getting to the net
- nastyflyergirl

Especially since Gostisbehere score an OT game winning goal recently.

blaming Ghost on a play that was Simmonds fault? Simmonds took him on the outside (closer to the boards). Jesus you need to take him on the inside to prevent him from getting to the net
- nastyflyergirl

I understand it's hindsight but i really don't like Simmonds out there in OT.

They always go Couturier - Konecny, Giroux - Voracekand then i would prefer Patrick - JVR/Lindblom.

I don't see the point in adding Jeff Carter at his age and where this team currently is.

Now I would have serious interest in Kopitar but that would require moving major prospects and/or picks. And as a result of that I would probably look to recoup assests by moving Voracek. Probably not likely either way.

I don't see the point in adding Jeff Carter at his age and where this team currently is.

Now I would have serious interest in Kopitar but that would require moving major prospects and/or picks. And as a result of that I would probably look to recoup assests by moving Voracek. Probably not likely either way.
- hereticpride

LA is not going to trade Kopitar in my opinion.

LA is not going to trade Kopitar in my opinion.
- MJL

Yeah, most likely not. But I'd rather go after him than Carter.

Ultimately I don't think we should really be trading for anyone over the age of 30 save for maybe a goaltender.

Yeah, most likely not. But I'd rather go after him than Carter.

Ultimately I don't think we should really be trading for anyone over the age of 30 save for maybe a goaltender.
- hereticpride

Anisimov I think is 30 and I would take a look at him. i think he could be a nice addition to the 3rd line and also I believe he kills penalties as well.

If you were the Kings GM what would you ask for?
- MJL

If I were the Kings GM and I was offered a prospect and a pick and I'm not taking any salary back.... I would likely ask for Konecny, but I would settle for abue-kubel and a 1st.

The contact is the big thing IMO. You have Kopitar making 10 mil and Brown is a terrible contract they will never move.

As a matter of fact I would offer a package where I ate part of Brown's contract.

If I were the Kings GM and I was offered a prospect and a pick and I'm not taking any salary back.... I would likely ask for Konecny, but I would settle for abue-kubel and a 1st.

The contact is the big thing IMO. You have Kopitar making 10 mil and Brown is a terrible contract they will never move.

As a matter of fact I would offer a package where I ate part of Brown's contract.
- youarewrong

I think it's going to take more that that. Aube-Kubel at this point is a 4th line NHL talent. They aren't looking to rebuild. They're looking to re-tool and take another run.

Aging forward that's having trouble scoring with 4 years left on his contract, I could see them doing that.

The defense needs work before they add another forward.

Aging forward that's having trouble scoring with 4 years left on his contract, I could see them doing that.

The TEAM defense needs work before they add another forward.
- Doctor DOOM

Fixed.

I think it's going to take more that that. Aube-Kubel at this point is a 4th line NHL talent. They aren't looking to rebuild. They're looking to re-tool and take another run.
- MJL

And taking nearly 6 million off thier cap isn't retooling? What if they traded Carter and Brown (2.5 million retained) for Voroboyov and a 1st. They open nearly 9 million to use in UFA, get a first round pick, and a decent 3rd-4th line player.

We get the #2 center that can move to wing later on, and a great PK and defensive guy. I would likely put him with Couts and make them a shutdown line after dealing Simmonds.

Giroux-Carter-Konecny
JVR-Patrick-Voracek
Brown-Couturier-Raffl
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise.

How can you expect to have any credibility whatsoever by labeling not firing Lappariere as cowardly? Seriously, that's comical. Why would he be afraid to do that?
- MJL

It may not be cowardly but it is baffling at this point. He is in a results oriented position and business and the results suggest that changes should have been made a while ago with regard to the PK staff. What I do know is that Hextall has no excuses for not making a change at PK...it’s hurting the chances of a win almost every single game.

And taking nearly 6 million off thier cap isn't retooling? What if they traded Carter and Brown (2.5 million retained) for Voroboyov and a 1st. They open nearly 9 million to use in UFA, get a first round pick, and a decent 3rd-4th line player.

We get the #2 center that can move to wing later on, and a great PK and defensive guy. I would likely put him with Couts and make them a shutdown line after dealing Simmonds.

Giroux-Carter-Konecny
JVR-Patrick-Voracek
Brown-Couturier-Raffl
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise.
- youarewrong

And you are removing the best pair besides G and Coots from the roster

And taking nearly 6 million off thier cap isn't retooling? What if they traded Carter and Brown (2.5 million retained) for Voroboyov and a 1st. They open nearly 9 million to use in UFA, get a first round pick, and a decent 3rd-4th line player.

We get the #2 center that can move to wing later on, and a great PK and defensive guy. I would likely put him with Couts and make them a shutdown line after dealing Simmonds.

Giroux-Carter-Konecny
JVR-Patrick-Voracek
Brown-Couturier-Raffl
Laughton-Lehtera-Weise.
- youarewrong

Focus on what LA wants to do. If they trade Carter they then have a hole in their lineup. The recent trade they made was to clear cap space. They didn't give up a top player. They want to try and contend while they still can.