Buy low, sell high.
- Woderwick

Yes

Huberdeau and Ekblad

I disagree

Teams have won with grit, teams have won without it.

It's not what wins you games anymore.
- Santo_44

Well.. The leafs are okay without it..

But if Matthews played for literally any other team other than maybe TB or NSH they would be taking a big hit in the standings without him.

Caps won the cup because they didn't break down over 4 rounds. You don't necessarily need grit, but you needs size and toughness for sure..

exactly my point, like i said previously , leafs play caps 1st round tom wilson
is gonna run matthews marner and tavares every game,....whos gonna stop him on this lineup right now? ..... no one
- CarlitoBrigante

Or

you outskill them because that is how you win hockey games.

Well.. The leafs are okay without it..

But if Matthews played for literally any other team other than maybe TB or NSH they would be taking a big hit in the standings without him.

Caps won the cup because they didn't break down over 4 rounds. You don't necessarily need grit, but you needs size and toughness for sure..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Hm

strange how NSH and TB always are the best teams and go far in the playoffs.

Hm

strange how NSH and TB always are the best teams and go far in the playoffs.
- Santo_44

And no Stanley cup wins between them.

You know how everyone says Leafs can't win with that D? Nashville imo, can't win with that forward group.

And no Stanley cup wins between them.

You know how everyone says Leafs can't win with that D? Nashville imo, can't win with that forward group.
- RogerRoeper

Tampa Bay has a Stanley Cup win.

Tampa Bay has a Stanley Cup win.
- Atomic Wedgie

I am aware but with a completely different team 14 years ago. No one remains.

They have to win this year. they have lost 2 out of the last 3 conf. finals and lost a cup final in 14'.

I am aware but with a completely different team 14 years ago. No one remains.

They have to win this year. they have lost 2 out of the last 3 conf. finals and lost a cup final in 14'.
- RogerRoeper

They'll be pretty good for a few years, no?

They'll be pretty good for a few years, no?
- Woderwick

They have as much if not more cap concerns than the Leafs but everyone [prefers to ignore their issues.

And no Stanley cup wins between them.

You know how everyone says Leafs can't win with that D? Nashville imo, can't win with that forward group.
- RogerRoeper

Tampa has won a cup.....

and Nsh has just came onto the scene of top teams and have been pretty damn close. They lossed 4-2 to Pitt...They easily could of won that series as well.

There are plenty of ways to build a team and to say one way is right is ignorant. The Leafs are building a skilled team just like Pitt...and they showed you do not need grit to win. Three times.

the hawks proved that too.

Hm

strange how NSH and TB always are the best teams and go far in the playoffs.
- Santo_44

yes the game is skill.. but toughness matters.

Same for any contact sport.

I am aware but with a completely different team 14 years ago. No one remains.

They have to win this year. they have lost 2 out of the last 3 conf. finals and lost a cup final in 14'.
- RogerRoeper

Leafs will win next 7 Stanley Cups, so that's a pitty for TB..

yes the game is skill.. but toughness matters.

Same for any contact sport.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It is an element but you do not need it.

The Pens and Hawks have proven that. 6 times between eachother.

Tampa has won a cup.....

and Nsh has just came onto the scene of top teams and have been pretty damn close. They lossed 4-2 to Pitt...They easily could of won that series as well.

There are plenty of ways to build a team and to say one way is right is ignorant. The Leafs are building a skilled team just like Pitt...and they showed you do not need grit to win. Three times.

the hawks proved that too.
- Santo_44

not being a grammar nazi.. but..

theres certain thresholds you must meet for me to engage.. lol


im sorta kidding..

Tampa has won a cup.....

and Nsh has just came onto the scene of top teams and have been pretty damn close. They lossed 4-2 to Pitt...They easily could of won that series as well.

There are plenty of ways to build a team and to say one way is right is ignorant. The Leafs are building a skilled team just like Pitt...and they showed you do not need grit ti win. Three times.
- Santo_44

Stanley Cup is a biotch to win...that's why it is such a great achievement. Need pretty much everything to go right...including lady luck.

#freeHOHO
- TrashPanda

not being a grammar nazi.. but..

theres certain thresholds you must meet for me to engage.. lol


im sorta kidding..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Be careful, Mr. Perfect.

Stanley Cup is a biotch to win...that's why it is such a great achievement. Need pretty much everything to go right...including lady luck.
- Woderwick

Leafs can win with this current group but everyone has to play at their best. against Boston Marner did that and almost no one else. The Caps won because their best players for once played their best in the playoffs.

Just to clarify I meant Tampa's current core has not won a cup. Dave Andreychuk was captain when they won the cup...

Be careful, Mr. Perfect.
- Woderwick

meh..

its pretty basic stuff... and i said i was sorta joking..

yes the game is skill.. but toughness matters.

Same for any contact sport.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Toughness is huge over the long haul of the tournament. Can't imagine what shape some of those guys are in after it's over.

meh..

its pretty basic stuff... and i said i was sorta joking..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Me two.

not being a grammar nazi.. but..

theres certain thresholds you must meet for me to engage.. lol


im sorta kidding..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

uhm...

Me two.
- Woderwick

comments about grammar then has three grammar mistakes

HB never gets old

Leafs can win with this current group but everyone has to play at their best. against Boston Marner did that and almost no one else. The Caps won because their best players for once played their best in the playoffs.
- RogerRoeper

Ovi was finally healthy.