I’d be open to dealing Voracek this summer but for what. Not interested in picks. Young nhl player with big upside
- Just5

The good doctor wants it done NOW. Surely he has thoughts on some viable options.

It’s less impressive when the flyers get themselves into about 30 OTs a year
- Just5

Digging a deeper and deeper hole.

I’d be open to dealing Voracek this summer but for what. Not interested in picks. Young nhl player with big upside
- Just5

OF COURSE, we are rebuilding Now!

As devil advocate, we could have assets for a good player later! Like IN THE YEAR, you steal a chip!

Simmonds scores goals well. That doesn't translate well to OT? Simmonds is not just a camp in front of the net player.
- MJL

I don’t have a chart or anything but I would venture to say a good majority of Simmonds goals are scored within a few feet of the cage not off of a rush. It’s not saying he’s a garbage player, but he’s not someone who typically excels at controlled entries and making plays in space.

And that’s not getting into the defensive side. He’s not the strongest skater. I’m not saying he should never find his way out there. In a five minute span you are gonna shuffle through guys. I just don’t think he translates well to that situation given his strengths and limitations.

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I don’t have a chart or anything but I would venture to say a good majority of Simmonds goals are scored within a few feet of the cage not off of a rush. It’s not saying he’s a garbage player, but he’s not someone who typically excels at controlled entries and making plays in space.

And that’s not getting into the defensive side. He’s not the strongest skater. I’m not saying he should never find his way out there. In a five minute span you are gonna shuffle through guys. I just don’t think he translates well to that situation given his strengths and limitations.
- stayinthefnnet

I posted the links to the 3 OT game winners that Simmonds has scored in about a years time. Apparently his skill does translate well to OT. There are many myths among fans. That Wayne Simmonds can't score off of the rush or isn't a good 5 on 5 player are two of them.

I’d be open to dealing Voracek this summer but for what. Not interested in picks. Young nhl player with big upside
- Just5

Part of me wonders what kind of center you could get in return for him. You add another top 6 center to this team and they're pretty stacked down the middle for a good long while.

Not really. He put Giroux on wing, He put Couturier on the Top line, He put Konecny on the top line and added him to the top PP today. He put NoPa and Lindblom with Voracek on 2nd line. Moved JVR to 3rd line cuz he didnt click. Made Provy #1 D. He has plenty of vision. Problem is young players making mistakes and some guys who arent going to be with the team in the future making mistakes.

From what I know PP and PK coaches were ones Hextall appointed. Hak had no say. His best PK. Flyers need to make due with what they got until the standing start to set in stone. Then they can look for a 3rd line C who kills penalties and a goalie.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If you’re the head coach, you are the bench boss. You should overlook everything and have final say. Everything you’ve named in term of change is from last season outside of JvR, which you made sound to be a spare tire.

I posted the links to the 3 OT game winners that Simmonds has scored in about a years time. Apparently his skill does translate well to OT. There are many myths among fans. That Wayne Simmonds can't score off of the rush or isn't a good 5 on 5 player are two of them.
- MJL

I’ll go back and look at the videos from today of defensive gaffs where he cost the team today.

You are a clown.
- DrMidnite

Nobody knows what you are talking about

I posted the links to the 3 OT game winners that Simmonds has scored in about a years time. Apparently his skill does translate well to OT. There are many myths among fans. That Wayne Simmonds can't score off of the rush or isn't a good 5 on 5 player are two of them.
- MJL

No one said he couldn’t do it. But by no means is he that player. It’s not an indictment of his skill to say there are better suited players.

I’ll go back and look at the videos from today of defensive gaffs where he cost the team today.
- Flyers1218

A resume is only based on what you’ve done today..

The good doctor wants it done NOW. Surely he has thoughts on some viable options.
- Scoob

Am I the bad doctor?

I’ll go back and look at the videos from today of defensive gaffs where he cost the team today.
- Flyers1218

You can do that. You can also look at the defensive gaffes from other players that also cost the team. Let's see if you're informed enough to spot them all. Jake Voracek has committed more defensive gaffes and turnovers to hurt the team then any Flyers forward.

Giroux and Voracek are top player and there is no reason why they can't continue to be top players for the next 5-6 years. That's why.
- MJL

5-6 years is a bit optimistic, especially for Giroux. I think Jake, with his build and skating ability could be a legit 1RW for another 5 seasons. Giroux, OTOH, probably has only 2-3 peak years left at this point, but he could still be a useful and effective player for a few more beyond that

A resume is only based on what you’ve done today..
- SuperSchennBros

I mistyped. Obviously, you can’t use just today as an example of how he plays. But MJL is using three arbitrary examples to show him scoring overtime goals. Those are more on anomaly then the norm for him in terms of the goals he’s scored in his career.

Just so everyone is aware. Nobody grew up on 3 on 3 hockey. It is a new format put in place a couple years ago I’m unsure anyone has mastered. Games have come down to 3 on 3 but it was noticed even less then a shootout before the league made it a major part of the game.

No one said he couldn’t do it. But by no means is he that player. It’s not an indictment of his skill to say there are better suited players.
- Flyers1218

Results speak for themselves. He's scored OT game winners for the team. That's why he's out there. To say he doesn't belong out there in OT is wrong. He deserves criticism for losing his man in this game but that doesn't change that he belongs out there. One of the opening shifts I watched 3 Flyers, one of which I think was Couturier just stand there while a Lightning player just skated into the dead slot for a point blank shot.

5-6 years is a bit optimistic, especially for Giroux. I think Jake, with his build and skating ability could be a legit 1RW for another 5 seasons. Giroux, OTOH, probably has only 2-3 peak years left at this point, but he could still be a useful and effective player for a few more beyond that
- BiggE

See I'm the opposite. I think once Jake loses a step his defensive gaffs are going to start happening way more frequently.

Giroux will be a PP threat for years to come.

I mistyped. Obviously, you can’t use just today as an example of how he plays. But MJL is using three arbitrary examples to show him scoring overtime goals. Those are more on anomaly then the norm for him in terms of the goals he’s scored in his career.
- Flyers1218

That's complete nonsense. There is nothing arbitrary about it. Three OT game winners in about the span of a calendar year is not an anomaly.

5-6 years is a bit optimistic, especially for Giroux. I think Jake, with his build and skating ability could be a legit 1RW for another 5 seasons. Giroux, OTOH, probably has only 2-3 peak years left at this point, but he could still be a useful and effective player for a few more beyond that
- BiggE

If Jake was a better scorer, sure. I wouldn’t exactly say he’s carrying his line.

See I'm the opposite. I think once Jake loses a step his defensive gaffs are going to start happening way more frequently.

Giroux will be a PP threat for years to come.
- hereticpride

PP for sure and on faceoffs, but I don’t think he’s a first line ES player at 34+

5-6 years is a bit optimistic, especially for Giroux. I think Jake, with his build and skating ability could be a legit 1RW for another 5 seasons. Giroux, OTOH, probably has only 2-3 peak years left at this point, but he could still be a useful and effective player for a few more beyond that
- BiggE

It's optimistic but I see no reason why Giroux can't remain a top player and 70-80 point scorer for 5-6 more years. Obviously, potential injuries are a factor which nobody can predict.

If Jake was a better scorer, sure. I wouldn’t exactly say he’s carrying his line.
- SuperSchennBros

No but he is the guy usually carrying the puck to gain zone entry. Would I like to see shoot more and take it to the net more? Sure, but that’s just not his game.

PP for sure and on faceoffs, but I don’t think he’s a first line ES player at 34+
- BiggE

Nah, probably not. But then again who is in today's league?