Plus, I'm pretty sure it's not up to him!
Just sayin.


- Unholy-Goalie

None of this is up to any of us but it's just a discussion.

Or maybe some of us want to see the Leafs actually win instead of being pretenders and would like them to fix the defense so they can compete with Tampa Bay and win a Cup. Possibly, if done correctly, multiple Cups.


- Unholy_Goalie

A win tonight (likely) puts the Leafs #1 overall - ahead of Tampa. Sure, perhaps only until tomorrow, but that sure sounds like competition to me.

You just like to female dog and take the contrary position, and it's tiring.

You know, the least you could do is invert the colors or use black and white if you're going to steal my avatar.
- Unholy_Goalie

Seems to me if you weren't so ridiculous then people wouldn't feel the need to.

lol.. that'll never happen. Mitch is untouchable..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

As is doughty. He wanted my opinion, I gave it.

Plus, I'm pretty sure it's not up to him!
Just sayin.


- Unholy-Goalie

Dang it...for real? I was just about to ask him if Muzzin was available.

No I’d say Marner as the main piece. That’s just me though.
- KINGS67

Can't do Marner. Local boy has to stay put.

Nylander
Liljegren
Bracco
Kapanen

So........ no thanks
- mr.sir

Swap Kapanen for Brown and I'd do it no problem. Even throw in a 1st if needed.

You know, the least you could do is invert the colors or use black and white if you're going to steal my avatar.
- Unholy_Goalie

Oh.

A win tonight (likely) puts the Leafs #1 overall - ahead of Tampa. Sure, perhaps only until tomorrow, but that sure sounds like competition to me.

You just like to female dog and take the contrary position, and it's tiring.
- TrashPanda

The Leafs have 1 more win than they did last year. If they lose tonight, they have the same record as they did last year.

It's 20 games. Nobody wins (frank) all after 20 games. If you want to pretend being 1st place matters after 20 games, go ahead but I'm thinking long term, specifically the playoffs, when the games get harder, rougher and tougher. Last year, it didn't go well.

Plus, I'm pretty sure it's not up to him!
Just sayin.


- Unholy-Goalie

HER.

None of this is up to any of us.

As is doughty. He wanted my opinion, I gave it.
- KINGS67

If the kings were to trade Doughty, asking for Marner is a good start. But yeah, we'd have to pass on that one.

As is doughty. He wanted my opinion, I gave it.
- KINGS67

Do you think the Kings can rebuild even by keeping Kopitar, Doughty and Quick? I mean, the Leafs use to do that kind of "rebuild" (with worse players mind you) and it never worked because they were always finishing in 9th or 10th place. They were always half pregnant instead of blowing the doors off the place and tanking it which they finally were forced to do, almost by accident. Because of that, they ended up with Marner, Matthews, Rielly, Nylander, Kadri etc.

Wouldn't it be more advantageous to trade Kopitar, Doughty and Quick for players under 25, a bunch of prospects and draft picks, suffer for a couple years, win a draft lottery or two and start from ground zero?

Bergeron just went down hard and had to go to the dressing room.

Do you think the Kings can rebuild even by keeping Kopitar, Doughty and Quick? I mean, the Leafs use to do that kind of "rebuild" (with worse players mind you) and it never worked because they were always finishing in 9th or 10th place. They were always half pregnant instead of blowing the doors off the place and tanking it which they finally were forced to do, almost by accident. Because of that, they ended up with Marner, Matthews, Rielly, Nylander, Kadri etc.

Wouldn't it be more advantageous to trade Kopitar, Doughty and Quick for players under 25, a bunch of prospects and draft picks, suffer for a couple years, win a draft lottery or two and start from ground zero?
- Unholy_Goalie

So, trade Doughty for someone that might turn into Doughty?

Bergeron just went down hard and had to go to the dressing room.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Quite the run of injuries happening within your division

If the kings were to trade Doughty, asking for Marner is a good start. But yeah, we'd have to pass on that one.
- PatC80

I’d say so too.

Quite the run of injuries happening within your division
- RatedR80

The only important one is Buston Glassthews.

The Leafs have 1 more win than they did last year. If they lose tonight, they have the same record as they did last year.

It's 20 games. Nobody wins (frank) all after 20 games. If you want to pretend being 1st place matters after 20 games, go ahead but I'm thinking long term, specifically the playoffs, when the games get harder, rougher and tougher. Last year, it didn't go well.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yes, I realize it's a long season, but it's been a great start. A win tonight means that they are one game better than last season - an improvement. Small, yes, but still an improvement.

Plus they have 62 games left to improve more.

The kids are also a year older and more mature than they were last year. Relax, it's going to be fine - there's no need to poop all over everything like you do or make any stupid moves like you continuously suggest.

Do you think the Kings can rebuild even by keeping Kopitar, Doughty and Quick? I mean, the Leafs use to do that kind of "rebuild" (with worse players mind you) and it never worked because they were always finishing in 9th or 10th place. They were always half pregnant instead of blowing the doors off the place and tanking it which they finally were forced to do, almost by accident. Because of that, they ended up with Marner, Matthews, Rielly, Nylander, Kadri etc.

Wouldn't it be more advantageous to trade Kopitar, Doughty and Quick for players under 25, a bunch of prospects and draft picks, suffer for a couple years, win a draft lottery or two and start from ground zero?
- Unholy_Goalie

I’m up for trading everyone including carter. Except kopitar and doughty

So, trade Doughty for someone that might turn into Doughty?
- PatC80

That's what rebuilding is. Getting younger, starting from scratch, cheaper players etc.

Or, keep going with those guys, keep finishing in 9th and 10th for 10 more years like the Leafs did from 2005-2015.

Yes, I realize it's a long season, but it's been a great start. A win tonight means that they are one game better than last season - an improvement. Small, yes, but still an improvement.

Plus they have 62 games left to improve more.

The kids are also a year older and more mature than they were last year. Relax, it's going to be fine - there's no need to poop all over everything like you do or make any stupid moves like you continuously suggest.
- TrashPanda

Yeah, improving the defense is such a stupid move.

Yes, I realize it's a long season, but it's been a great start. A win tonight means that they are one game better than last season - an improvement. Small, yes, but still an improvement.

Plus they have 62 games left to improve more.

The kids are also a year older and more mature than they were last year. Relax, it's going to be fine - there's no need to poop all over everything like you do or make any stupid moves like you continuously suggest.
- TrashPanda

One of those kids, is refusing to play.

The only important one is Buston Glassthews.
- PatC80

It’s ok....they can rebuild him or something like that

That's what rebuilding is. Getting younger, starting from scratch, cheaper players etc.

Or, keep going with those guys, keep finishing in 9th and 10th for 10 more years like the Leafs did from 2005-2015.
- Unholy_Goalie

Or move on from Carter, Brown, Muzzin, Quick, Martinez, Toffoli and keep Doughty and Kopitar

One of those kids, is refusing to play.
- PatC80

Yes, and they're doing fine without him.