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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:35 AM ET
Good article in the Athletic today about buying out Lucic. It provides no real cap relief. If they buy him out, here are his cap hits:


2019-20: $3,625,000

2020-21: $5,625,000

2021-22: $4,125,000

2022-23: $5,625,000

2023-27: $625,000

That's a giant ouchie.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yup. Signing bonus heavy contracts like the ones clarkson and eriksson signed
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
He returned, but doesn't mean he's 100%
- burn

He came back...but left again late in the game....didn't think he came back the second time...maybe I wasn't paying full attention.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:38 AM ET
Geeze, ended up drinking buckets of corona at the sports bar after a very soju heavy korean bbq dinner. Thank god for leftover oxys.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
Two reasons:

- Americans lime their sporting events during the day
- NBC wants a game of the week on Saturday afternoons.

When I lived in Boston, I enjoyed going to Saturday afternoon games. Run errands in the morning, go to the game, come home and nap, go out on Saturday night.

- Atomic Wedgie

This response is better than my, "because" answer.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:43 AM ET
Geeze, ended up drinking buckets of corona at the sports bar after a very soju heavy korean bbq dinner. Thank god for leftover oxys.
- TheMussel

Can't drink buckets of Corona...don't like it enough to drink more than a couple.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
Two reasons:

- Americans lime their sporting events during the day
- NBC wants a game of the week on Saturday afternoons.

When I lived in Boston, I enjoyed going to Saturday afternoon games. Run errands in the morning, go to the game, come home and nap, go out on Saturday night.

- Atomic Wedgie


I knew you were Bill Burr!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Good article in the Athletic today about buying out Lucic. It provides no real cap relief. If they buy him out, here are his cap hits:


2019-20: $3,625,000

2020-21: $5,625,000

2021-22: $4,125,000

2022-23: $5,625,000

2023-27: $625,000

That's a giant ouchie.

- Atomic Wedgie


What a horrible contract

Any Nathan Hortons out there ?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
Can't drink buckets of Corona...don't like it enough to drink more than a couple.
- Woderwick

It really needs to be a hot summer’s day on a patio to enjoy multiple Coronii.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
It really needs to be a hot summer’s day on a patio to enjoy multiple Coronii.
- mjones242

Yes. I wouldn't turn it down if that's all there was...but I would never buy Corona for my beer fridge.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
No way of knowing - everyone else is better, who's to say Willy hasn't stepped up his game...not that we'll ever know.
- Woderwick

That would be better, 18 would have set in on pace for 72pts.

But youre right, we'll never know. Stoopid willie.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
What a horrible contract

Any Nathan Hortons out there ?

- Santo_44

Taken by the perception of what they thought they needed, and who they thought they needed.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
Did you see that delayed offside in the second period?

Don't be fooled by the record, Faksie.

If this team is going to keep giving up a delayed offside or two a game, no way we win a playoff series.

- Atomic Wedgie

Always turning my rainbows grey wedgie.

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 10:56 AM ET
That would be better, 18 would have set in on pace for 72pts.

But youre right, we'll never know. Stoopid willie.

- Fakepartofme

Stoopid...stoopid Willy. The good of it...we got to see Kaps potential...so thanks for that Wil I Am.
Maybe Willy's doing this on purpose to expose the talents of his buddy.
Selfless - I love Willy again, now.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
That would be better, 18 would have set in on pace for 72pts.

But youre right, we'll never know. Stoopid willie.

- Fakepartofme

You can see from the scores of last nights games - starting to level out already.
And you're right, 72 points would be pretty fantastic.

The 2 power play units they could put out with Willy there, and the 3 man units they could put out in OT. Depth changes dramatically with the pretty boy.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
You can see from the scores of last nights games - starting to level out already.
And you're right, 72 points would be pretty fantastic.

The 2 power play units they could put out with Willy there, and the 3 man units they could put out in OT. Depth changes dramatically with the pretty boy.

- Woderwick


Matthews-Tavares-Kadri
Rielly-Marner

Marleau-Nylander-Johnson
Gardiner-Lievo

That 2nd PP would be as good as some teams firsts

Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Nov 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
Matthews-Tavares-Kadri
Rielly-Marner

Marleau-Nylander-Johnson
Gardiner-Lievo

That 2nd PP would be as good as some teams firsts

- Santo_44

It's pretty good with Ennis on there ...
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
It's pretty good with Ennis on there ...
- Woderwick

Ennis creates scoring chances somehow his moves are a little unorthodox but they work.

This PP would break records
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
It's pretty good with Ennis on there ...
- Woderwick

I forgot Kapanen too.

It’ll be lethal
Gusto
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Land of Ice and snow,From , ON
Joined: 07.07.2009

Nov 17 @ 11:14 AM ET
If we could get that out of Gardiner on a consistent basis he'd be with Rielly in the Norris talks. Great game from him last night. Actually saw him toss a couple guys around. That's how we need him to play!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
Go Leafs.

Beauty team.

There will be a shortage of kleenex around the tool residence when Matthews and Nylander join the team.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
If we could get that out of Gardiner on a consistent basis he'd be with Rielly in the Norris talks. Great game from him last night. Actually saw him toss a couple guys around. That's how we need him to play!
- Gusto


Gards and Zaitsev are getting heavier match-up/DZ duty as Babcock is easing Hainsey's load and freeing Rielly up to exploit softer match-ups.

Gards has been much more effective defensively this year: much more focused, less risk-taking, but that also means he's not scoring as much.

I like this Gardiner better, but I've always liked Gardiner; he's always been better than people think.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
I forgot Kapanen too.

It’ll be lethal

- Santo_44


I don't know how much PP time he'll get if he's not getting it now. The PP is not where his gamebreaking speed can really be a difference maker, but on the PK, it's perfect.

I'm happy with him on the PK if he's going to get a lot of minutes 5v5 too.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't know how much PP time he'll get if he's not getting it now. The PP is not where his gamebreaking speed can really be a difference maker, but on the PK, it's perfect.

I'm happy with him on the PK if he's going to get a lot of minutes 5v5 too.

- gravyface

He has 12 mins of PP time in the past 3 games....

Safe to say Babs is starting to use him on there.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
If we could get that out of Gardiner on a consistent basis he'd be with Rielly in the Norris talks. Great game from him last night. Actually saw him toss a couple guys around. That's how we need him to play!
- Gusto


Yeah, it looks like they've been working on simplifying his game - I suppose he felt before like he needed to do too much.

This is also a great example of how good players can improve over the course of the season. The coaching staff exists for a reason, and Gardiner is clearly willing to listen and work with them.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Gards and Zaitsev are getting heavier match-up/DZ duty as Babcock is easing Hainsey's load and freeing Rielly up to exploit softer match-ups.

Gards has been much more effective defensively this year: much more focused, less risk-taking, but that also means he's not scoring as much.

I like this Gardiner better, but I've always liked Gardiner; he's always been better than people think.

- gravyface


I agree.

I’ll take him but only on a discounted contract.

Hopefully with him being on this team for his whole career he will want to win here.

He can match a Shattenkirk contract. 4-5x6.5. He could get 7x6.

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