Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Hello hammar, I hope all is well.
(frank) this team.
The End. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Lol at someone saying Crosby in a list of players on teams that wouldn't be in a funk like the Flyers. News flash the Pens are in a horrendous slide, he just got hurt and there last in the Eastern conference...
And their GM traded a player and didn't fire the coach.
Also McDavid didn't keep Edmonton from struggling last year. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Elliott getting hurt is 100% on Hakstol. He knows he's injury prone you can't put him in 3 games in a row let alone having had to use him in a relief role the game before.tonight should have been Pickard in net. |
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Shutout by Kinkaid? Pathetic. This coming after being beat by 39 year old Roberto Luongo.
Worst home team in the Eastern Conference. Same bullpoop as the last 6 years missing the playoffs or a first round exit. Getting old.
Shocking the goaltending tandem of Lou Gehrig and Cal Ripken Jr. are both hurt.
Glass Joe and the Philly Pretzel |
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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I'm ready for a change also. I'm ready for this team, meaning the players to bear down and play some consistent hockey.
The issue was not goaltending tonight and hasn't been the main issue all season. I think the first goal is a save that should be made but Elliott made how many saves that should've been goals? - MJL
The goaltending is the issue. It might not be performance but when both goalies have been injured for significant stretches this young season that's an issue. It was known last season and people are right, it wasn't addressed. Now I'm not calling for Hextalls head. He's doing a good job. But it's time to make a change in goal. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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is it luck players like mcdavid crosby ovechkin stamkos have the ability to score a ton and or make stuff happen on the ice?
you're using the same excuse everyone uses for this team when they're not scoring
MAKE THEY'RE JUST NOT THAT GOOD - 2Real
Dude those guys are generational talent....... |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Elliott getting hurt is 100% on Hakstol. He knows he's injury prone you can't put him in 3 games in a row let alone having had to use him in a relief role the game before.tonight should have been Pickard in net. - dragonoffrost
That is the dumbest comment ever. Elliot has consistantly played 3 games plus without getting hurt. Players get hurt it happens. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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I’m blown away. I’m not attacking anyone who doesn’t like that call but I knew it wasn’t a call to challenge. JvR did physically bump him. That goalie while at the edge of his crease was in his crease. Sorry, it was a bad challenge. - SuperSchennBros
Thats easy for you to say. You have many more resources at the time to see that. Coaches on the bench can only go by what they see on the ice. It is a much different view from the ice than from the TV with hundreds of different views. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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is it luck players like mcdavid crosby ovechkin stamkos have the ability to score a ton and or make stuff happen on the ice?
you're using the same excuse everyone uses for this team when they're not scoring
MAKE THEY'RE JUST NOT THAT GOOD - 2Real
Also please tell me how Edmonton and Pittsburgh are doing? With guys that create their own luck, they sure are worse than the Flyers right now......... Pittsburgh lost 7 of their last 8. Stop treating the Flyers as if they are a top contender. They are not comparable to WSH or TBL. Those are elite teams. The Flyers arent there yet. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Have to trade a core player. Same guys the last 6 years that have won nothing. Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Coots...someone has to go. 1 goal the last 6 periods at home. They are way too comfortable because nothing changes. - Williamc5468
Hate to say it but I do believe it's come to this. At best this team treads water. This far into the rebuild that's just not good enough. There needs to be some sort of significant retooling.
For me it's Jake and Simmonds you look to move if you can get a fair return. You just can't afford to move G or Coots. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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That is the dumbest comment ever. Elliot has consistantly played 3 games plus without getting hurt. Players get hurt it happens. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
I've been calling for him to play less than 55 games since before this season. Easiest way to do that is play 2 take one off. Also you play the backup last night against NJ so you have Elliott fresh for Tampa. Otherwise it's 5 games in a row.
It's called proper management is a resource to make it through a season. But go ahead and ride him to death and get him hurt again. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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I've been calling for him to play less than 55 games since before this season. Easiest way to do that is play 2 take one off. Also you play the backup last night against NJ so you have Elliott fresh for Tampa. Otherwise it's 5 games in a row.
It's called proper management is a resource to make it through a season. But go ahead and ride him to death and get him hurt again. - dragonoffrost
If you cant count on your goalie to play more than 3 games, he isnt a starting goalie. Injuries happen its unavoidable. Neuvirth got injured in practice, Vaslievsky got injured in practice. It is bad luck that all it is. Elliot played more that 3 games many times last year with no issues.He has done so his entire career. Pickard is not a good goalie and we are not going to win many games with him in net. Elliot could have just played yesterday for the first time in 3 games and that injury still would have happened. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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If you cant count on your goalie to play more than 3 games, he isnt a starting goalie. Injuries happen its unavoidable. Neuvirth got injured in practice, Vaslievsky got injured in practice. It is bad luck that all it is. Elliot played more that 3 games many times last year with no issues.He has done so his entire career. Pickard is not a good goalie and we are not going to win many games with him in net. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Then it's also on Hextall to get better than Pickard as a backup. You know Elliott breaks at more than 50ish games a season you need a backup that can play those other games. Elliott isn't Brodeur who could handle 70 games. You've got to plan for that and also the coach has to plan for it. It's poor resource management if you expected Elliott to play more than 55ish games |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Thats easy for you to say. You have many more resources at the time to see that. Coaches on the bench can only go by what they see on the ice. It is a much different view from the ice than from the TV with hundreds of different views. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Coaches have an Ipad now behind the bench to look at replays. They see the same replays we see.
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Then it's also on Hextall to get better than Pickard as a backup. You know Elliott breaks at more than 50ish games a season you need a backup that can play those other games. Elliott isn't Brodeur who could handle 70 games. You've got to plan for that and also the coach has to plan for it. It's poor resource management if you expected Elliott to play more than 55ish games - dragonoffrost
This is exactly what I was getting at last night. They knew that Elliott and Neuvy were not a good tandem together and went into this season with them anyway. It's ridiculous. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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My Game Observations:
- When your hitting post your getting chances. Problem is they need to bear down as there were rebound chances.
- While goalie isn't the issue...still need to make the save on the first goal.
- Feel like something is missing in Simmonds game. Can't exactly say what but something isn't passing my eye test right now.
- PK looked better. More pressure and not a lot of sitting back.
- Team needs to push back more. Get to rebounds. cause more chaos in front of the net.
- Weal looked ok but still want to see someone else there. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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My Game Observations:
- When your hitting post your getting chances. Problem is they need to bear down as there were rebound chances.
- While goalie isn't the issue...still need to make the save on the first goal.
- Feel like something is missing in Simmonds game. Can't exactly say what but something isn't passing my eye test right now.
- PK looked better. More pressure and not a lot of sitting back.
- Team needs to push back more. Get to rebounds. cause more chaos in front of the net.
- Weal looked ok but still want to see someone else there. - J35Bacher
Simmonds is just so frustrating. I don't know if he's had the strong parts of his game coached out of him or if he just isn't capable of thowing his body around anymore. Sure, he might shove some guys in scrums after the whistle, which appears to be enough for some people, but that doesn't win him a lot of points with me.
It's really time to move on there. I can't imagine justifying a new contract for him with what he's giving you on ice. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Right now, goaltending is the issue and here's why. Elliott, when healthy, is a good goalie. However, he was coming off a major surgery going into this season. With that in mind, for Hextall to be willing to go into the season with the most injury prone goalie in the NHL as his partner was a huge mistake.
To go out and sign JVR while declaring that it's time for this team to take the next step and at the same time going into the season with that goalie tandem just makes no sense at all. Neuvirth should have been bought out in June and another goalie brought in via free agency this summer.
Even if this team gets it's special teams straightened out, if Elliott is out long term and they don't make a move to acquire a solid NHL goalie, they aren't making the playoffs. If I'm the owner of this team, I'm really questioning the decision making of Ron Hextall when it comes to this teams goaltenders.
I have to think that if they miss the playoffs this year, there is no way that Hak is coming back for his final, lame duck season. I also have to think that although Hextall's job is probably safe (barring an utter collapse that seems them finishing as one of the 3-4 worst teams in the league), he will be under enormous pressure to put a team on the ice in 19-20 that not only can make the playoffs, but that can have a reasonable shot at winning a round. Failure to achieve that, and I think we see a housecleaning in the management dept after next season.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Elliott getting hurt is 100% on Hakstol. He knows he's injury prone you can't put him in 3 games in a row let alone having had to use him in a relief role the game before.tonight should have been Pickard in net. - dragonoffrost
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Then it's also on Hextall to get better than Pickard as a backup. You know Elliott breaks at more than 50ish games a season you need a backup that can play those other games. Elliott isn't Brodeur who could handle 70 games. You've got to plan for that and also the coach has to plan for it. It's poor resource management if you expected Elliott to play more than 55ish games - dragonoffrost
And what other options were there last year? None. The only oportunity to get a better goalie is now since Bob and I believe Bishop are FAs. You also have to understand they want Hart up with the team. Elliot and neuvirth are bandaids until he is ready. Personally I wanted to keep Mrazek over neuvirth but you would have to move a goalie to do so and the market isnt there. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Right now, goaltending is the issue and here's why. Elliott, when healthy, is a good goalie. However, he was coming off a major surgery going into this season. With that in mind, for Hextall to be willing to go into the season with the most injury prone goalie in the NHL as his partner was a huge mistake.
To go out and sign JVR while declaring that it's time for this team to take the next step and at the same time going into the season with that goalie tandem just makes no sense at all. Neuvirth should have been bought out in June and another goalie brought in via free agency this summer.
Even if this team gets it's special teams straightened out, if Elliott is out long term and they don't make a move to acquire a solid NHL goalie, they aren't making the playoffs. If I'm the owner of this team, I'm really questioning the decision making of Ron Hextall when it comes to this teams goaltenders.
I have to think that if they miss the playoffs this year, there is no way that Hak is coming back for his final, lame duck season. I also have to think that although Hextall's job is probably safe (barring an utter collapse that seems them finishing as one of the 3-4 worst teams in the league), he will be under enormous pressure to put a team on the ice in 19-20 that not only can make the playoffs, but that can have a reasonable shot at winning a round. Failure to achieve that, and I think we see a housecleaning in the management dept after next season. - BiggE
They wont miss. Like I said last month the Flyers are streaky. They won 6 straight before losing 2. They are going to get hotter than that.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Simmonds is just so frustrating. I don't know if he's had the strong parts of his game coached out of him or if he just isn't capable of thowing his body around anymore. Sure, he might shove some guys in scrums after the whistle, which appears to be enough for some people, but that doesn't win him a lot of points with me.
It's really time to move on there. I can't imagine justifying a new contract for him with what he's giving you on ice. - hereticpride
Simmonds and Jake are infuriating. They both can be better but seem to be stuck this year at their level of play |
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Right now, goaltending is the issue and here's why. Elliott, when healthy, is a good goalie. However, he was coming off a major surgery going into this season. With that in mind, for Hextall to be willing to go into the season with the most injury prone goalie in the NHL as his partner was a huge mistake.
To go out and sign JVR while declaring that it's time for this team to take the next step and at the same time going into the season with that goalie tandem just makes no sense at all. Neuvirth should have been bought out in June and another goalie brought in via free agency this summer.
Even if this team gets it's special teams straightened out, if Elliott is out long term and they don't make a move to acquire a solid NHL goalie, they aren't making the playoffs. If I'm the owner of this team, I'm really questioning the decision making of Ron Hextall when it comes to this teams goaltenders.
I have to think that if they miss the playoffs this year, there is no way that Hak is coming back for his final, lame duck season. I also have to think that although Hextall's job is probably safe (barring an utter collapse that seems them finishing as one of the 3-4 worst teams in the league), he will be under enormous pressure to put a team on the ice in 19-20 that not only can make the playoffs, but that can have a reasonable shot at winning a round. Failure to achieve that, and I think we see a housecleaning in the management dept after next season. - BiggE
This. 1000 times this. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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People, everything is okay. Despite the inconsistent play, they're still only 1 point out of 3rd in the Metro. They didn't play a horrible game last night despite the shutout. Its still a loss and a game they should've won in my opinion but let's not panic. Elliott getting hurt sucks but it's not the coaches fault. Everything can't be the coaches fault. |
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