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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:51 PM ET
You are watching a hockey game THAT is entertainment. No team in the NHL plays a full 60 minutes. If they did there would be less parity. There are lapses where teams are sluggish, the fans chant "Let's go(Insert team name here), that inserts some life back into a team that looks lifeless and they start putting on pressure. Why do you think players fight to spark the team. It is the exact same thing. A hockey game is more than just cheering for your team, its watching all the great players in the league play.

The Flyers sucked in 2006-07 but I got to watch Peter Forsberg play, I got to see Brodeur, Elias, Parise. Flyers lost both those games but it was still entertaining to watch. The game VS Isles was a 5-2 loss and it wasnt any less entertaining. You are just a crybaby like most comment board here. The team loses a couple games so you take your ball and you go home, who cares that they recently just won 6 straight, only the two losses matter

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Those 6 games with points (there was a loss in there that went at least to overtime) were all #fakepoints
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
I think the time limit is Ron Hextall's patience.

How many more try harder speeches do you think he needs to hear from his coach?

- johndewar


Lets not pretend that the try harder speeches are what is being done. That is what they tell the media. I can guarantee you the message in the locker room is much different and much harsher. Its the same with all companies. In all press conferences they try to make things seem like nothing is wrong and put a positive spin on everything. Hakstol is not throwing anyone under the bus publicly, I am sure Hextall probably had a word with him about the comments about Misha earlier this year. Those arent the type of things you should say. There are players to be called out but they will be done so behind closed doors.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
Sack up
Snot
Grit

He keeps saying the same thing and getting the same poop result. The ball is in Hextall's court now.

- hereticpride

"Sack" would be considered a bad word for Hak....
Imitation vanilla says...Man up!




dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
Sack up
Snot
Grit

He keeps saying the same thing and getting the same poop result. The ball is in Hextall's court now.

- hereticpride


Yep does Hextall support the players and can Hakstol

or does he support Hakstol and trade a core member to send a message to the players.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:52 PM ET
"Sack" would be considered a bad word for Hak....
Imitation vanilla says...Man up!

- Konalover


He did actually say Sack up when Jake cost them a game earlier.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 16 @ 1:53 PM ET
Those 6 games with points (there was a loss in there that went at least to overtime) were all #fakepoints
- dragonoffrost


Exactly the Flyers are actually 3-9-1-6 (W-L-OTL\SO-FakeWins)
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Nov 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
Exactly the Flyers are actually 3-9-1-6 (W-L-OTL\SO-FakeWins)
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


You forgot to add losses to trash teams in there
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
Exactly the Flyers are actually 3-9-1-6 (W-L-OTL\SO-FakeWins)
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Flyers new goal song

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Nov 16 @ 1:58 PM ET
You are watching a hockey game THAT is entertainment. No team in the NHL plays a full 60 minutes. If they did there would be less parity. There are lapses where teams are sluggish, the fans chant "Let's go(Insert team name here), that inserts some life back into a team that looks lifeless and they start putting on pressure. Why do you think players fight to spark the team. It is the exact same thing. A hockey game is more than just cheering for your team, its watching all the great players in the league play.

The Flyers sucked in 2006-07 but I got to watch Peter Forsberg play, I got to see Brodeur, Elias, Parise. Flyers lost both those games but it was still entertaining to watch. The game VS Isles was a 5-2 loss and it wasnt any less entertaining. You are just a crybaby like most comment board here. The team loses a couple games so you take your ball and you go home, who cares that they recently just won 6 straight, only the two losses matter

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Drink that Kool-aid, It ain't for me.

Call me all the names you want, that doesn't change the fact that this team is milk toast.

So boring, so vanilla.

I will never pay someone just to go and cheer them on. I want to be entertained not go to entertain.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:59 PM ET
Drink that Kool-aid, It ain't for me.

Call me all the names you want, that doesn't change the fact that this team is milk toast.

So boring, so vanilla.

I will never pay someone just to go and cheer them on. I want to be entertained not go to entertain.

- ggunky

Milk toast?
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 16 @ 1:59 PM ET
He did actually say Sack up when Jake cost them a game earlier.
- dragonoffrost

Sinner!
Burn him.
Cause wood floats and so does a duck!
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sinner!
Burn him.
Cause wood floats and so does a duck!

- Konalover


It was so anti Hak it stuck out to me
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:01 PM ET
Drink that Kool-aid, It ain't for me.

Call me all the names you want, that doesn't change the fact that this team is milk toast.

So boring, so vanilla.

I will never pay someone just to go and cheer them on. I want to be entertained not go to entertain.

- ggunky


That isnt exactly what we are arguing. It is one thing to not want to go when you pay for tickets. You got offered them for FREE and said you didnt even think about it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
If that goal counts its a 1-1 game. NJ doesnt score another goal until Elliott gets hurt. Two major factors that were all just bad luck
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Oh, so the final becomes 3-1. Gotcha. Major factor.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
At what point do you consider giving Steve Mason a call with all of these goalie injuries? I think a 1 year deal could do Mason and the Flyers both good. Idk how he compares to Elliott but he’s the better option over Neuvirth, Pickard and Lyon.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 16 @ 2:11 PM ET
I am a STH and attended many, many of those 2006-2007 games.

The only entertainment to be had, until the team made a couple of deals (Upshall, Coburn, Biron, etc), was a dancing fat guy up in the upper bowl of the arena.



Most Flyers fans will cheer, yell, woo, whatever when the team gives them something to cheer, yell, woo about. It's a symbiotic circle and frankly, as a paying customer, it ain't on me to get them going.

By the way, the Dancing Fat Guy has lost a bunch of weight and has gone on to a gig with the Flyers. He's like our own Jonah Hill.



So, maybe, just maybe, there's hope for this team yet.

But right now, they are inconsistent, they play poorly at home, and have been kind of boring and really haven't done all that much to deserve reverberated energy from the home crowd because they've generated so little of it themselves.

- johndewar

But John. You are the problem.

Some people have gone to two (2!) games in 06-07!
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:12 PM ET
It was so anti Hak it stuck out to me
- dragonoffrost

Would have made me pause too...
From the time this guy was hired, I remember reading that he did not swear (can anyone confirm this?)and thought then that can't be good for pro ranks.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
Gritty stole all of the grit.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
Man, you guys are bipolar as (frank).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
At what point do you consider giving Steve Mason a call with all of these goalie injuries? I think a 1 year deal could do Mason and the Flyers both good. Idk how he compares to Elliott but he’s the better option over Neuvirth, Pickard and Lyon.
- arichardson22


Mason is third all time in wins for Goaltenders in Flyers history. He's 30 years old and out of the NHL. What does that tell you?
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Nov 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
That isnt exactly what we are arguing. It is one thing to not want to go when you pay for tickets. You got offered them for FREE and said you didnt even think about it.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Just because the tickets are free doesn't make it a free evening and turning one down doesn't make him less of a fan than you are.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
At what point do you consider giving Steve Mason a call with all of these goalie injuries? I think a 1 year deal could do Mason and the Flyers both good. Idk how he compares to Elliott but he’s the better option over Neuvirth, Pickard and Lyon.
- arichardson22


There is almost no way Mason comes back here. That bridge was torched.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Nov 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
Just because the tickets are free doesn't make it a free evening and turning one down doesn't make him less of a fan than you are.
- Doctor DOOM

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
Oh, so the final becomes 3-1. Gotcha. Major factor.
- SuperSchennBros


No because you missed the point completely. You are seeing what you want to see. Flyers had 2 counts of bad luck. The goal that was called off and the Elliot injury.

If Elliot doesnt get hurt, they dont score that 2nd goal.

Without that 2nd goal they dont get an empty netter.

Its not a difficult concept.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 16 @ 2:18 PM ET

- DeflatedPucks


How about those last 8 Pens games...
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