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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
It's way too goddamn cold in Winnipeg man.
- Scabeh


I tell you where it's way too goddamn cold is (frank)ing Montreal today
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
Except for the fact that the deadline is December 1st at 5p.
- underhill14

Nylander told me it was midnight on the 30th.

What a bastard.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
I find the whole Nylander situation in Toronto funny. When the Jets were having trouble signing Trouba, all I heard from leaf fans was..."no one wants to play in Winnipeg". Now that Nylander is not signing there.....
- TheUltimateJet

Its true.
Laugh it up.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 14 @ 2:56 PM ET
I tell you where it's way too goddamn cold is (frank)ing Montreal today
- TheMussel


I must admit, that sneaky -20 on november 14th is pissing me off.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
I must admit, that sneaky -20 on november 14th is pissing me off.
- Scabeh


My scrotum became empty as soon as I stepped outside this morning
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
I tell you where it's way too goddamn cold is (frank)ing Montreal today
- TheMussel



Cold here as well
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

Nov 14 @ 3:08 PM ET
After legalization who can math?
- bixll


For the love of peoplekind...
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Nov 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
Nylander told me it was midnight on the 30th.

What a bastard.

- Fakepartofme





I'm sure his mouth was full of the Realpartofyou, honest mistake.

Hmmm, that hair.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
In August.
- bixll


As a Saskatchewanian I can confirm that Winnipeg (frank)ing sucks.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 14 @ 3:17 PM ET
As a Saskatchewanian I can confirm that Winnipeg (frank)ing sucks.
- BINGO!



Yup, been there a few times. Also watch my buddies dog run away for 3 days in Saskatoon.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 14 @ 3:18 PM ET
For the love of peoplekind...
- TheRat14

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 14 @ 3:19 PM ET



I'm sure his mouth was full of the Realpartofyou, honest mistake.

Hmmm, that hair.

- underhill14

Now now, a gentleman never tells.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 14 @ 3:19 PM ET
Muzzin for Gardiner?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 14 @ 3:27 PM ET
It cant drag into december.
Nov 30th is the deadline.

- Fakepartofme


Dec 1 at 5pm, is the actual deadline
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

Nov 14 @ 3:27 PM ET

- bixll


Hey, he's your Premier not mine.
Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Nov 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
Now now, a gentleman never tells.
- Fakepartofme


....so you have no problem telling then?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
Muzzin for Gardiner?
- mr.sir


Interesting deal.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
Hey, he's your Premier not mine.
- TheRat14


I know what you're referring to.

I still think he was trolling the hell out of that girl.
celinedionpha9
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
I just don’t understand RFA’s anymore. The whole point of being RFA is to not be able to command UFA money. You have zero bargaining power, its the team you were drafted by or sit out. You are supposed to be market value on your RFA deal. Nylander’s market value is a little less than Pastrnak. 6.5 million for 4 years is all he is worth right now. Potential is meaningless. Many players had tons of potential and fall off. Past results is the best indicator. He can pull really big numbers in his UFA deal. Thats the point.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 14 @ 3:42 PM ET
I just don’t understand RFA’s anymore. The whole point of being RFA is to not be able to command UFA money. You have zero bargaining power, its the team you were drafted by or sit out. You are supposed to be market value on your RFA deal. Nylander’s market value is a little less than Pastrnak. 6.5 million for 4 years is all he is worth right now. Potential is meaningless. Many players had tons of potential and fall off. Past results is the best indicator. He can pull really big numbers in his UFA deal. Thats the point.
- celinedionpha9


Yeah, but players are at their most productive before they hit UFA age, usually.

It's a thing used by owners to help keep their costs down. It should be obsolete, just like the draft.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
I just don’t understand RFA’s anymore. The whole point of being RFA is to not be able to command UFA money. You have zero bargaining power, its the team you were drafted by or sit out. You are supposed to be market value on your RFA deal. Nylander’s market value is a little less than Pastrnak. 6.5 million for 4 years is all he is worth right now. Potential is meaningless. Many players had tons of potential and fall off. Past results is the best indicator. He can pull really big numbers in his UFA deal. Thats the point.
- celinedionpha9


If he signs for 8 years he is giving up some of those RFA years. Also in 8 years who knows what the NHL CBA and pay structure is like. If Dubas is only offering a long term deal 7/8 years then Nylander should get 7, and try to squeeze out as much as he can.

Potential is not meaningless, its smart for Teams to project a players production so they can try (like Dubas) to get a player on a contract for less then his actual value production wise.

imo, I dont think players 29 and older are going to get those big UFA deals down the line. if you hit UFA status at 30, you are not getting a huge payday

plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
deal announced in next 16hrs (have to wait until little Willie wakes up..)
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
If he signs for 8 years he is giving up some of those RFA years. Also in 8 years who knows what the NHL CBA and pay structure is like. If Dubas is only offering a long term deal 7/8 years then Nylander should get 7, and try to squeeze out as much as he can.

Potential is not meaningless, its smart for Teams to project a players production so they can try (like Dubas) to get a player on a contract for less then his actual value production wise.

imo, I dont think players 29 and older are going to get those big UFA deals down the line. if you hit UFA status at 30, you are not getting a huge payday

- senstroll


Don't tell Tavares that!!
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
Muzzin for Gardiner?
- mr.sir


Would go nicely with Doughty.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 14 @ 4:02 PM ET
Nylander told me it was midnight on the 30th.

What a bastard.

- Fakepartofme

I'm pretty sure Stockholm is 7 hours behind EST, so if I'm doing the math correctly, 5 pm on Dec 1 in New York would be midnight on the 30th in Sweden.

But keep in mind this is post-legalization math.

I need some chips...
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