Tough but fair
- DDM-Coga

At this point why do it halfway, might as well try Draisatl-McDavid-RNH. Three best players on one line and let the rest figure itself out, I would think scoring wouldnt be an issue at least.
- 13sundin13

I suggested this in the last thread....the other lines would be a train wreck but if Todd wants to copy the Avs and Bruins then yes he might as well go all the way

Larsson is a top 2 defender though........ it may have been in contention before due to him not producing offensively, being considered solely as a shutdown defender, which, even then was a weak argument to make, but now that he is starting to combine a bit of offense into his game (and producing actual statistical results) combined with his stellar defensive play, you really cannot say he isn't a top 2 defender.

He faces top opposition day in and day out and succeeds at shutting them down. Now that he has finally started to incorporate offense into his game, it is hard to state that he isn't a top 2 defender. Sure, there is still a whole chunk of the season left, but if Larsson continues to do what he is doing (without PP time I remind you), he is a top 2 defender without a doubt.

Plus he is only 26. Most defenders don't peak until the 28-9ish age range.
- EdmHockeyMan

I think the team's lack of success has put too much emphasis on this trade. Maybe it wasn't perfect, and Hall winning the Hart stings, but if the Oilers were winning then nobody would be saying anything. And from an outsider looking in, I feel like the team has more issues than 1 top line left winger could fix. Maybe it would give them more scoring but like many other teams, it goes deeper than that. They'd be better up front but much worse on D so it's tough to say how much better they would be in the standings.

Two years ago when the Oilers made the playoffs and Hall was ok, everyone was saying the trade was a good one. I dunno if Larsson is a top 2 for sure, but he's easily a top 4 on any team in the league and that's a huge asset to have.

I suggested this in the last thread....the other lines would be a train wreck but if Todd wants to copy the Avs and Bruins then yes he might as well go all the way
- RatedR80

Might as well give it a try. At the very least I think it would make the games more fun for McDavid which could go a long way. Watching those loaded lines, they look like they're really enjoy playing together, making plays etc.

I think the team's lack of success has put too much emphasis on this trade. Maybe it wasn't perfect, and Hall winning the Hart stings, but if the Oilers were winning then nobody would be saying anything. And from an outsider looking in, I feel like the team has more issues than 1 top line left winger could fix. Maybe it would give them more scoring but like many other teams, it goes deeper than that. They'd be better up front but much worse on D so it's tough to say how much better they would be in the standings.

Two years ago when the Oilers made the playoffs and Hall was ok, everyone was saying the trade was a good one. I dunno if Larsson is a top 2 for sure, but he's easily a top 4 on any team in the league and that's a huge asset to have.
- 13sundin13

Could we have gotten more? Possibly but the horse has been beaten to death and is fine powder by now....no one is ever going to fully agree if it was a bad trade or not....what it did do for us is bring in a shut down defender which is something we really needed....not as sexy as a Doughty or Burns but he has been effective in his role since he has arrived.....lots of bad decisions have been made this is rather far from the top of my list

Your lack of knowledge concerning McDavid’s contributions and linemates are equaled only by your lack of prudence, tact and talent. May you spend a thousand sleepless nights within the 6th circle of Hell, you distasteful emasculated mass of pustules.

Good day sir.
- Wildschwein

Being an Oilers fan in the McDavid era?

He had the least amount of ice time last night 4th liners had more time....might be fair to suggest that the 4th line is even pushing it as far as Lucic goes
- RatedR80

He hasn't been a top-6 winger since he got here.
- MaximumBone

His first season can be argued that he was.

50 points, contributed on the PP, positive possession metrics, and even by the eye test, he was doing what was asked of him on the 2nd line, nothing more, nothing less.

Even heading into his 2nd season here, he was doing good until Christmas hit, then he fell off a (frank)ing cliff or Santa gave him some coal. Whatever the reason, his downfall started compounding last Christmas and from the looks of it, the ending ain't gonna be pretty.

Being an Oilers fan in the McDavid era?
- cnatch

Dante never foresaw such torment.

I think the team's lack of success has put too much emphasis on this trade. Maybe it wasn't perfect, and Hall winning the Hart stings, but if the Oilers were winning then nobody would be saying anything. And from an outsider looking in, I feel like the team has more issues than 1 top line left winger could fix. Maybe it would give them more scoring but like many other teams, it goes deeper than that. They'd be better up front but much worse on D so it's tough to say how much better they would be in the standings.

Two years ago when the Oilers made the playoffs and Hall was ok, everyone was saying the trade was a good one. I dunno if Larsson is a top 2 for sure, but he's easily a top 4 on any team in the league and that's a huge asset to have.
- 13sundin13

- Wildschwein

His first season can be argued that he was.

50 points, contributed on the PP, positive possession metrics, and even by the eye test, he was doing what was asked of him on the 2nd line, nothing more, nothing less.

Even heading into his 2nd season here, he was doing good until Christmas hit, then he fell off a (frank)ing cliff or Santa gave him some coal. Whatever the reason, his downfall started compounding last Christmas and from the looks of it, the ending ain't gonna be pretty.


- EdmHockeyMan

I can only hope at this point that the new CBA produces some kind of get out of jail card for GMs.....I highly doubt it but one can dream

Your lack of knowledge concerning McDavid’s contributions and linemates are equaled only by your lack of prudence, tact and talent. May you spend a thousand sleepless nights within the 6th circle of Hell, you distasteful emasculated mass of pustules.

Good day sir.
- Wildschwein

Boy are you ever wound up tight over my comment. I guess the ugly truth about McD hurts you blind homer. Look at the Oilers and other than winning individual awards what has McD done to make this poor franchise better? 8o% of his game is using his speed and he is one knee injury away from going from a great player to being a good player who needs very talented wingers to pad his individual stats. That being said I still hope that the Oilers make the playoffs as they have very passionate fans, and unfortunately some real nuts.

His first season can be argued that he was.

50 points, contributed on the PP, positive possession metrics, and even by the eye test, he was doing what was asked of him on the 2nd line, nothing more, nothing less.

Even heading into his 2nd season here, he was doing good until Christmas hit, then he fell off a (frank)ing cliff or Santa gave him some coal. Whatever the reason, his downfall started compounding last Christmas and from the looks of it, the ending ain't gonna be pretty.


- EdmHockeyMan

Not by my definition. His even strength production was at a 3rd line level (barely).

Boy are you ever wound up tight over my comment. I guess the ugly truth about McD hurts you blind homer. Look at the Oilers and other than winning individual awards what has McD done to make this poor franchise better? 8o% of his game is using his speed and he is one knee injury away from going from a great player to being a good player who needs very talented wingers to pad his individual stats. That being said I still hope that the Oilers make the playoffs as they have very passionate fans, and unfortunately some real nuts.
- islansjet

lol.

Not sure on whether I should keep letting you continue to make a fool out of yourself from what appears to be a "troll attempt" or ban you already....

Boy are you ever wound up tight over my comment. I guess the ugly truth about McD hurts you blind homer. Look at the Oilers and other than winning individual awards what has McD done to make this poor franchise better? 8o% of his game is using his speed and he is one knee injury away from going from a great player to being a good player who needs very talented wingers to pad his individual stats. That being said I still hope that the Oilers make the playoffs as they have very passionate fans, and unfortunately some real nuts.
- islansjet

Wow, you actually meant it? Damn. When faced with this level of ignorance, I don't even know where to start.

lol.

Not sure on whether I should keep letting you continue to make a fool out of yourself from what appears to be a "troll attempt" or ban you already....
- EdmHockeyMan

Leave him. I've gotta see where this level of stupid goes

I can only hope at this point that the new CBA produces some kind of get out of jail card for GMs.....I highly doubt it but one can dream
- RatedR80

It can be incorporated into negotiations during the CBA if the managers can find a way to use it as a settlement for a compromise. Perhaps the NHL can void NMC clauses during the 2020 expansion as that settlement, thus letting us expose Lucic and not using up a protection spot on him?

It can play out in a lot of ways, but the managers would need to successfully negotiate their position effectively. In other words, don't let Chia be involved with any discussions!

Not by my definition. His even strength production was at a 3rd line level (barely).
- MaximumBone

I knew you were gonna mention his even strength numbers. Dammit.

But honestly, he brought a lot of positives on that 2nd line and on the PP. Could we have found a better fit? Yes. But he was adequate for the time being and that at least should be apprehensible.

Speaking of which, what is your definition for a top 6 forward?

Leave him. I've gotta see where this level of stupid goes
- MaximumBone

Boy are you ever wound up tight over my comment. I guess the ugly truth about McD hurts you blind homer. Look at the Oilers and other than winning individual awards what has McD done to make this poor franchise better? 8o% of his game is using his speed and he is one knee injury away from going from a great player to being a good player who needs very talented wingers to pad his individual stats. That being said I still hope that the Oilers make the playoffs as they have very passionate fans, and unfortunately some real nuts.
- islansjet

Be gone you sordid gobermouch. Your words are as devoid of worth as the waste you excrete.

It can be incorporated into negotiations during the CBA if the managers can find a way to use it as a settlement for a compromise. Perhaps the NHL can void NMC clauses during the 2020 expansion as that settlement, thus letting us expose Lucic and not using up a protection spot on him?

It can play out in a lot of ways, but the managers would need to successfully negotiate their position effectively. In other words, don't let Chia be involved with any discussions!
- EdmHockeyMan

Majority of his contract is signing bonus which cannot be bought out. It is guaranteed in the event of a work stoppage. It's really not worth it to buy him out. Too much in guaranteed money.

Wow, you actually meant it? Damn. When faced with this level of ignorance, I don't even know where to start.
- MaximumBone

It would be best not to start. Words of wisdom are wasted on such creatures.

Leave him. I've gotta see where this level of stupid goes
- MaximumBone

Boy are you ever wound up tight over my comment. I guess the ugly truth about McD hurts you blind homer. Look at the Oilers and other than winning individual awards what has McD done to make this poor franchise better? 8o% of his game is using his speed and he is one knee injury away from going from a great player to being a good player who needs very talented wingers to pad his individual stats. That being said I still hope that the Oilers make the playoffs as they have very passionate fans, and unfortunately some real nuts.
- islansjet

I can make fart noises with my mouth too!