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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 13 @ 1:23 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll


(frank)

Sorry buddy!!!
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:24 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll


Dude, my condolences.
Lost my twin brother to drug addiction 25 years ago!

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:24 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll

Terrible drug.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
Dude, my condolences.
Lost my twin brother to drug addiction 25 years ago!


- Unholy-Goalie

Wait...were you the good twin or the bad twin?
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
HOHO said you might want to reconsider..... The hat goes with him!
- Unholy-Goalie


We've all had enough turns with the hat here anyway...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
(frank)

Sorry buddy!!!

- Garnie


Prolly a little on edge today. I should apologize to Senstroll. Naw...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:26 PM ET
Terrible drug.
- AdamFrench




4 times in rehab, He stole everything in the house that he could sell. Even my brothers Marine sword.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:26 PM ET
He said 8.5-9% of the cap.

Not 8.5 millions per year.

- Scabeh

Well holy fack, someone needs to learn how to properly read what other people post!

(Goes back over senstroll's original post, sees my error, prepares "nevermind" post to senstroll)

I can live with 6.75.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
Well holy fack, someone needs to learn how to properly read what other people post!

(Goes back over sens original post, sees my error, prepares "nevermind" post to sens)

I can live with 6.75.

- Fakepartofme


TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
HOHO said you might want to reconsider..... The hat goes with him!
- Unholy-Goalie


HoHo's and his hat have been suspended for awhile... I'm sure it can be replaced with a crusty hockey sock or or a pair of mouthguards and an elastic
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
then re-read what I said

8.5-9% of the cap

- senstroll

Yup i see my error.
Thats on me. My bad

Read it wrong.

Nevermind.

I can live with 6.75 per.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:29 PM ET
Yup i see my error.
Thats on me. My bad

Read it wrong.

Nevermind.

I can live with 6.75 per.

- Fakepartofme


6.75 isn't good enough. He also has to get down on his knees and beg to be allowed to play hockey again.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:29 PM ET
HoHo's and his hat have been suspended for awhile... I'm sure it can be replaced with a crusty hockey sock or or a pair of mouthguards and an elastic
- TheMussel


He can always go the Tom Wilson route and ask for an indepedant arbitrator to reduce his suspension.

(Yes, it's my subtle way to mention that him getting to come back right now is complete bullpoop).
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:30 PM ET
4 times in rehab, He stole everything in the house that he could sell. Even my brothers Marine sword.
- bixll

Nasty. My brother in laws uncle was like that. He once stole a TV from the Hells Angels and gave it to my brother in laws dad as his Christmas present. His dad got his ass kicked and his house ransacked for it...though the Hells Angels guys did apologize and make it clear that they didn't want to do it, they had to to keep up their reputation.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:30 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll

Sorry to here man.
Drug addiction is a tough battle to watch someone go through.

All the best to your family.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
6.75 isn't good enough. He also has to get down on his knees and beg to be allowed to play hockey again.
- TheMussel


like speak into the microphone kind of begging?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:31 PM ET
Nasty. My brother in laws uncle was like that. He once stole a TV from the Hells Angels and gave it to my brother in laws dad as his Christmas present. His dad got his ass kicked and his house ransacked for it...though the Hells Angels guys did apologize and make it clear that they didn't want to do it, they had to to keep up their reputation.
- AdamFrench


Such good guys eh?

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll

That's awful. Requiescat in pace. Sorry for your loss.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
Yup i see my error.
Thats on me. My bad

Read it wrong.

Nevermind.

I can live with 6.75 per.

- Fakepartofme


One positive is if it’s 6.75 his future cap hits are around 6.25 I believe.

Due to signing mid season
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
like speak into the microphone kind of begging?
- The Law


I once got banned for a week for suggesting that Willy and Dubas could figure out a contract in bed. I'm going to stick to regular begging involving no microphones.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
Nasty. My brother in laws uncle was like that. He once stole a TV from the Hells Angels and gave it to my brother in laws dad as his Christmas present. His dad got his ass kicked and his house ransacked for it...though the Hells Angels guys did apologize and make it clear that they didn't want to do it, they had to to keep up their reputation.
- AdamFrench

i'm sorry i had to laugh - great story (i can imagine the hell's angel apoligizing while kicking the other guy's ass)
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
Well holy fack, someone needs to learn how to properly read what other people post!

(Goes back over senstroll's original post, sees my error, prepares "nevermind" post to senstroll)

I can live with 6.75.

- Fakepartofme


I don't think the Leafs are offering Nylander numbers that are too far outside of expected parameters. I think the Nylander camp is the one that hasn't accepted reality.

I think all Leaf fans see his value as being in the 6.5 - 7 range. I think realistically, we all use Pastrnak as a realistic comparable. If you put in a 5% inflator, you end up at 6.99m. At 3% (average cap growth), it's $6.86m.

On a bridge deal, I'd hedge towards the Kucherov deal, which inflated would be around $5m / 3 years. You take the chance that he performs at a 100pt pace, and if he does, you pay the man his $10m.

From what I've heard rumoured, that seems to be where the Leafs are ranging as well, but seemingly closer to $6m and $4.5m on a bridge. Were I negotiating, I wouldn't move my price point closer until the other side showed signs of living in the real world.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
Rangers put Lindqvist on waivers






























plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
I don't think the Leafs are offering Nylander numbers that are too far outside of expected parameters. I think the Nylander camp is the one that hasn't accepted reality.

I think all Leaf fans see his value as being in the 6.5 - 7 range. I think realistically, we all use Pastrnak as a realistic comparable. If you put in a 5% inflator, you end up at 6.99m. At 3% (average cap growth), it's $6.86m.

On a bridge deal, I'd hedge towards the Kucherov deal, which inflated would be around $5m / 3 years. You take the chance that he performs at a 100pt pace, and if he does, you pay the man his $10m.

From what I've heard rumoured, that seems to be where the Leafs are ranging as well, but seemingly closer to $6m and $4.5m on a bridge. Were I negotiating, I wouldn't move my price point closer until the other side showed signs of living in the real world.

- Monkeypunk



I'm convinced it's NOT about the money.
It's about the fact that Nylander wants to make sure he's not trading to a team that he does not want to play for - this is the only moment he has some actual leverage over that decision.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
No...


JUST SIGN THE CONTRACT ALREADY WILLIE!!!!!!

- Garnie


Agreed!!!!!!!!!!
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