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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 12 @ 10:16 PM ET
I hope Dubas tells Nylander's camp he has 2 weeks to work out a contract with another team.

The lack of $8 million dollar offers might make this douchebag rethink his demands.

Hey Wee Willy - go frank yourself.

- Atomic Wedgie


That's what I said weeks ago.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 10:25 PM ET
If he's after 8 million and won't budge, or has asked for anything else on your list, I want the Leafs to make an example of him..........you don't want to play for fair value, then watch from sweden.
- Barx

Agreed. I don’t want to trade him at all. I rather they bench him for a year as an example then giving into anything.
These young guys coming off elc can’t get what they want.
In saying that I still think he gets signed at pastarnak dollars over 7/8 years. Give it till December 1st but tell him they aren’t trading regardless. So he signs for a reasonable amount or sits until he does.
BCblue
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2017

Nov 12 @ 10:32 PM ET
Just because EDM and BUF screwed it all up for the rest of the NHL because they couldn't tell the difference between their leverage over a RFA versus a UFA does not mean that Dubas and the Leafs need to overpay Nylander, Matthews and Marner.

Explain to me why Tavares had to wait until his age 27 contract to get $11M? All of a sudden Marner is a $10M+ player at 22 because he's putting up points and plays for the Leafs? Get out of here with that poop.

Why is Pastrnak "underpaid" at $6.66M on a long-term deal with BOS? Because he didn't have the balls to bet on himself on a bridge deal and is now out-performing his number. Don't want that to happen to you Willy, Auston and Mitch? Realize that the NHL is not set-up for 22 year old's to hit home runs coming out of their ELC.

You can't rely on a poopty GM making long-term mistakes again...

- Deeps27

Most intelligent statement on the entire subject I have heard all season. Well done sir
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Nov 12 @ 10:38 PM ET
Nylander is with the Leafs in California I thought I heard in some of their morning interviews.

If so, I take it that is good news.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 10:45 PM ET
Nylander is with the Leafs in California I thought I heard in some of their morning interviews.

If so, I take it that is good news.

- LeafGuy89

Matthews is, I didn’t hear anything about nylander though.
batman8990
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 04.26.2017

Nov 12 @ 10:53 PM ET
Yeah, the target for both parties should be an AAV of 7 M$, nothing upper or lower than that. Dubas is sticking too much with his 6 or 6,25 M$ AAV, he needs to put up some water in his wine and upping just a little bit the contract offers to Nylander. The Swede should come back to earth and lowering his salary demands closer to 7 M$. Its the only way an agreement could be reached between Nylander and Dubas before Dec. 1st. If not, then start looking for a good trade package that'll bring a young top-4 D or a young winger with a top prospect and a draft pick. I don't believe for a second the option of sitting him down for the rest of the season will happen, because both parties have too much to lose in terms of money and Stanley Cup aspirations to let that happening.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:04 AM ET
I doubt it too but those are the names they need to be looking at. Nylander is the golden ticket to get a #1 RHD. Anything less than that is a waste of an asset.
- Unholy_Goalie

And if that asset isn't available then we shouldn't force it. Or you end up making a deal you regret.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 13 @ 3:00 AM ET
And if that asset isn't available then we shouldn't force it. Or you end up making a deal you regret.
- mykokes


If they get a legit #1 RHD, it'd be hard to regret that deal.

The regret would be trading him for Pesce or some other bullpoop 2nd pairing D.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 13 @ 7:00 AM ET
Wayne Gretzky shares his thoughts on the William Nylander
situation (from today's episode of Leafs Lunch)


plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 7:02 AM ET
Wayne Gretzky shares his thoughts on the William Nylander
situation (from today's episode of Leafs Lunch)



- nbboy


I just wonder what John Toews has to say about this..
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 13 @ 7:16 AM ET
Skjei + Kreider for Nylander + ...something?
- AdamFrench

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 13 @ 7:19 AM ET
If they get a legit #1 RHD, it'd be hard to regret that deal.

The regret would be trading him for Pesce or some other bullpoop 2nd pairing D.

- Unholy_Goalie



LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Nov 13 @ 7:25 AM ET
Matthews is, I didn’t hear anything about nylander though.
- bryant


Ahh ok, can sometimes be difficult to hear the questions in those interviews they post cause for some reason they suck at uploading them with loud audio.

I guess they transitioned from Nylander questions to Matthews quick and I never realized.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Nov 13 @ 7:27 AM ET
I just wonder what John Toews has to say about this..
- plantheparade


Why?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 7:45 AM ET
I just wonder what John Toews has to say about this..
- plantheparade



Who (frank)in cares about what John Toews thinks about the Willie Ny situation.



Leaf fans don't even care about it, at this point. Now it is just frustrating bull poop.

Leave the punk in Sweden. Offer is 4 mill per or you sit a year.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 7:56 AM ET
Who (frank)in cares about what John Toews thinks about the Willie Ny situation.



Leaf fans don't even care about it, at this point. Now it is just frustrating bull poop.

Leave the punk in Sweden. Offer is 4 mill per or you sit a year.

- bixll


Gretzky referenced to JT as Jonathan Tavares.. that's why.

And I actually don't agree with you - I explained why I understand Nylander's not signing yet (he basically wants to decide to which team he gets traded to; seems quite obvious he is gone).
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 8:02 AM ET
Gretzky referenced to JT as Jonathan Tavares.. that's why.

And I actually don't agree with you - I explained why I understand Nylander's not signing yet (he basically wants to decide to which team he gets traded to; seems quite obvious he is gone).

- plantheparade



Oh No. Willie is not driving this bus. Willie is a passenger. His option is to sign or wait to see where he is playing this year. I suspect, pond hockey in Sweden.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 8:06 AM ET
Oh No. Willie is not driving this bus. Willie is a passenger. His option is to sign or wait to see where he is playing this year. I suspect, pond hockey in Sweden.
- bixll


I don't agree.
the only leverage Willie has, is not signing at this point.
only reason this makes sense is NOT money, but it is his suspicion that he will be traded away after this season (since Leafs can't fit Marner, Matthews, JT AND Nylander under cap - obvious that Willie is the odd man out).
So if that's the case, I could definitely understand his position - I wouldn't want to be traded to a bottom feeder team or a city he has not interest in living in.. (Ottawa, ARizona, Detroit, NJ or whichever teams he has no interest in).
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 8:10 AM ET
I don't agree.
the only leverage Willie has, is not signing at this point.
only reason this makes sense is NOT money, but it is his suspicion that he will be traded away after this season (since Leafs can't fit Marner, Matthews, JT AND Nylander under cap - obvious that Willie is the odd man out).
So if that's the case, I could definitely understand his position - I wouldn't want to be traded to a bottom feeder team or a city he has not interest in living in.. (Ottawa, ARizona, Detroit, NJ or whichever teams he has no interest in).

- plantheparade



I would trade him to the Siberian Huskies ... Enjoy Russian.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 13 @ 8:12 AM ET
Who (frank)in cares about what John Toews thinks about the Willie Ny situation.



Leaf fans don't even care about it, at this point. Now it is just frustrating bull poop.

Leave the punk in Sweden. Offer is 4 mill per or you sit a year.

- bixll



I hardly doubt leaf fans don't care about it.

What is frustrating bull poop is "fans" making comments like sign for 4mil or (frank) off and all the bull poop trade offers. Haven't seen one offer that is even remotely close.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 8:17 AM ET
I hardly doubt leaf fans don't care about it.

What is frustrating bull poop is "fans" making comments like sign for 4mil or (frank) off and all the bull poop trade offers. Haven't seen one offer that is even remotely close.

- burn


you're the worst.
only thing you do is irrationaly defend anything that has to do with Leafs / Leafs management.

In addition, plenty of suggestions were made for 'even' deals.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 13 @ 8:20 AM ET
you're the worst.
only thing you do is irrationaly defend anything that has to do with Leafs / Leafs management.

In addition, plenty of suggestions were made for 'even' deals.

- plantheparade



nope. But what ever makes you feel better.


Like which ones. Name them. They've been terrible.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 8:21 AM ET
I hardly doubt leaf fans don't care about it.

What is frustrating bull poop is "fans" making comments like sign for 4mil or (frank) off and all the bull poop trade offers. Haven't seen one offer that is even remotely close.

- burn



OMG.. All of Leafs Nation is on the edge of their seats waiting to hear what he has to say.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 8:22 AM ET
nope. But what ever makes you feel better.


Like which ones. Name them. They've been terrible.

- burn



Take another serious pill Burn..
Unholy-Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I am the ALL KNOWING UGTARD! You are wrong because I said so!
Joined: 11.18.2011

Nov 13 @ 8:26 AM ET
Max is the morning version of Ugtard!
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