Fine ,I’ll start.

We will offer up Sanheim for him.
- jmdodgeser4

No we won't. Pass.

Almost no winger gets you a number 1 d man. Especially a rhd. In fact I can’t really think of any... Kane? Damn expensive. Kucherov? Hall? I doubt any winger in the league gets you that ask... let alone nylander
- ChrisMS

Not alone but as the central piece, it can be done. Karlsson (2 time Norris winner) got moved for a bag of pucks. Just a matter of finding the right situation, at the right time. Nylander doesn't have to be traded today or even tomorrow.

That would be pennies on the dollar to me... not quarters. I would think getting a decent 2nd liner or a middle pair d man is possible. But the current situation likely means leafs don’t get equal value back. But that’s the cap world.
- ChrisMS

That's why they take a package back. Upgrade the D corp and get a kid or 2 back as well.
No team has a line up without weaknesses. Not in this day and age and salary capped league. Pitt just won back to back with a few scrubs revolving through their line up. You just have to have them elevate at the right time. One of the reasons it's so hard to win the Cup.

Not alone but as the central piece, it can be done. Karlsson (2 time Norris winner) got moved for a bag of pucks. Just a matter of finding the right situation, at the right time. Nylander doesn't have to be traded today or even tomorrow.
- Unholy_Goalie

That goes completely against what you posted last.
And the Leaf-Nylander situation does not share any details with the Sens-Karlsson situation.
Obviously, they don't HAVE to trade him, but I think they are better served to do it. Rather than let the rest of the their roster play another year of their contracts without upgrading for a Cup run, and ending up with less control over Nylander.

That goes completely against what you posted last.
And the Leaf-Nylander situation does not share any details with the Sens-Karlsson situation.
Obviously, they don't HAVE to trade him, but I think they are better served to do it. Rather than let the rest of the their roster play another year of their contracts without upgrading for a Cup run, and ending up with less control over Nylander.
- Tonybere

Not if you read it.

They're better served to trade him for what they actually need, not anything less than that. They're better served to keep him, increase his value further, then move him when the time calls for it.

The Leafs do not need to 'go for it" now. Their defense sucks too bad to even dream of that right now. They have plenty of time to get the job done. And if Nylander doesn't sign, they don't lose any control over him. He's shooting himself in the foot by not playing.

No we won't. Pass.
- MJL

Yes we will, pass vetoed.

I don't see why the Leafs would have to settle for pennies on the dollar. That Nylander is a top 6 talent is indisputable. They don't have to make a move, so that should let them entertain decent offers.
I'm not sure I'm totally on board, but the banter on the Rangers thread is what would we have to package along with Skjei to get him. Now, say what you want about Skjei, but he is neither a project, nor a 3rd pairing Dman. Especially on the Leafs blueline. If you disagree, you need to watch him some more. He would instantly strengthen your biggest weakness. And if they were also to land a winger prospect and a draft pick, that wouldn't be too hard to take, would it?
- Tonybere

Haven't watched any Rangers in awhile. I'll trust the leafs brass make the right trade/sign him for a reasonable amount or make him sit.

I'd rather package Nylander and try and get Hamilton or something along those lines.

Yes we will, pass vetoed.
- Girouxsalem90

We'll pass...

Thanks for the offer though.

- Leafs management

Thats unfair and silly thing to say that if he sees it different from you then it must mean he doesnt Watch leaf games. i guess i can then go ahead and assume that you have a "Good ol Canadian/Toronto boy" bias when it comes to Marner over Nylander?
I think both are equally talented in their own way.

I remember media and fans bashing Nylander on the day he was drafted (and the next day) calling him "small, pretty boy" etc. One year later Marner was drafted and media and fans sang a different tune. Marner was McJesus except for McJesus himself being in the draft that year. i seen several blogs reassess the 2 drafts and opine that Marner may have gone a tad bit higher than he should have and Nylander could have gone top 5 in his year.
- Turnitaround

Everyone said Marner was too small (including myself )....Marner makes a line, Nylander is a great piece but doesn't do what Marner does. IMO

I'd take Marner over Nylander all day every day....thats from watching pretty much every game they've ever played.

Not alone but as the central piece, it can be done. Karlsson (2 time Norris winner) got moved for a bag of pucks. Just a matter of finding the right situation, at the right time. Nylander doesn't have to be traded today or even tomorrow.
- Unholy_Goalie

What about Wednesday?

Not alone but as the central piece, it can be done. Karlsson (2 time Norris winner) got moved for a bag of pucks. Just a matter of finding the right situation, at the right time. Nylander doesn't have to be traded today or even tomorrow.
- Unholy_Goalie

So you’d trade nylander for a rental d man? I’m actually thinking that’s a ballzy move that might pan out. That’s going for it on the last year of elcs!

What about Wednesday?
- Garnie

Not any day that ends in Y.

So you’d trade nylander for a rental d man? I’m actually thinking that’s a ballzy move that might pan out. That’s going for it on the last year of elcs!
- ChrisMS

Not without an extension. Point still stands; different players, different teams, different situations all present themselves in time. Nylander is the chip the Leafs need to use to get what they need. Anything less than that is a failure and a waste of an asset.

This is based on:
Larkin making $5.5
Ehlers making $6x 7 years
Pasternak $6.75. (34 and 35 goal seasons)

All of these guys are comparable. No way does anyone pay Nylander $8Mil.
- Bullot

I would trade Nylander straight up for Larkin

Not if you read it.

They're better served to trade him for what they actually need, not anything less than that. They're better served to keep him, increase his value further, then move him when the time calls for it.

The Leafs do not need to 'go for it" now. Their defense sucks too bad to even dream of that right now. They have plenty of time to get the job done. And if Nylander doesn't sign, they don't lose any control over him. He's shooting himself in the foot by not playing.
- Unholy_Goalie

Then there's something I don't understand here. Isn't he an RFA after this season? Meaning he is a UFA after next season?

Not without an extension. Point still stands; different players, different teams, different situations all present themselves in time. Nylander is the chip the Leafs need to use to get what they need. Anything less than that is a failure and a waste of an asset.
- Unholy_Goalie

Karlsson didn’t come with an extension so
Your example is odd. Is it not a waste of an asset to not use it at all? Especially if the goal is the cup?

Karlsson didn’t come with an extension so
Your example is odd. Is it not a waste of an asset to not use it at all? Especially if the goal is the cup?
- ChrisMS

Only because the 8 year deal can't be signed until after the trade deadline.

Nylander can be used as a trade chip at a future date. He's not a pending UFA. The Leafs have complete control over his future.

The goal is the Cup, but it doesn't have to be right away. There's a difference.

Then there's something I don't understand here. Isn't he an RFA after this season? Meaning he is a UFA after next season?
- Tonybere

If he doesn't sign a contract, he's still an RFA. He has many years of RFA status ahead of him still.

Only because the 8 year deal can't be signed until after the trade deadline.

Nylander can be used as a trade chip at a future date. He's not a pending UFA. The Leafs have complete control over his future.

The goal is the Cup, but it doesn't have to be right away. There's a difference.
- Unholy_Goalie

Um. Nylander has complete control of his future. With exception of nhl play. And if that was top priority for him he’d be on the ice.

Yes we will, pass vetoed.
- Girouxsalem90

Veto overturned.

The Leafs need to keep Nylander at all costs, like Phil Kess...oh wait.

Um. Nylander has complete control of his future. With exception of nhl play. And if that was top priority for him he’d be on the ice.
- ChrisMS

So what is his top priority? Money? If he wants to maximize his earnings potential he needs to be in the NHL. Winning a cup? Ditto. Playing against the best competition? I'm running out of ideas here...doing shampoo commercials?

Um. Nylander has complete control of his future. With exception of nhl play. And if that was top priority for him he’d be on the ice.
- ChrisMS

Pretty sure if he didn't want to play in the NHL he wouldn't have for 2 years and he'd be already playing somewhere else.

Yes we will, pass vetoed.
- Girouxsalem90

Lucky for me, Hextall is on my side.

1 yr deal

St. Louis would make the most sense but it would definitely take some heavy maneuvering. Talking a deal like...

To TOR:
D Colton Parayko
D Joel Edmundson
F Robbi Fabbri
G Chad Johnson
C Oskar Sundqvist

To STL
F William Nylander
D Jake Gardiner (expiring contract/deal not
hinging on a pre-negotiated extension)
D Timothy Liljegren
G Garrett Sparks
2021 2nd/TOR
2019 4th/STL

I know it’s a steep price and the last team in the world I like is the Blues, but, RD Defenders who can score, lay the body, and go about his business the way Parayko does are not there every draft, and they’re the most valuable commodity in the leave today, which franchise center nipping at its heels.

What it does is leaves the Depth Charts looking something like..

TOR:
Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Hyman-Tavares-Kapanen
Fabbri-Kadri-C. Brown
Leivo-Lindholm-Sundqvist
x Johnsson x Gauthier

Rielly-Parayko
Edmundson-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Ozhiganov
x Dermott

Andersen
Johnson

for STL

Maroon-O’Reilly-Tarasenko
Schwartz-Schenn-W. Nylander
Steen-Bozak-Perron
Foley-Fabbri-Soshnikov
x Barbashev x Sanford

Gardiner-Pietrangelo
Boumeester-Liljegren
Dunn-Schmaltz
x Bortuzzo

Allen
Sparks