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Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Nov 13 @ 2:56 PM ET
Do they realize they're poopting all over a 22 year old forward who is averaging over 40 points per season again?

Schmaltz is not the problem.

You're catastrophically slow defense and utter lack of depth is.

- BINGO!



Nah schmaltz is a problem he is pass happy won't shoot in prime areas, afraid to get hit nor aggressive to retrieve pucks in the corner and poor decisions with the puck.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Nov 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
Why does Stan Bowman still have a job??....better yet, why did he get this job in the first place? Why did he think it was smart to trade Saad for Anisimov and save $1.3mil after 2015? Why did he think it was smart to trade Danault for Weise + Fleischmann? Why did he trade for Ladd instead of a dman in 2016? Why did he think David Rundblad was good enough to play in the NHL on 2 separate contracts?? Why does he build this team like its no-check Euro league hockey on the larger ice surface? Why did he think it was smart to trade Sharp and the only good dman he's drafted in Johns for Garbutt and Trevor Daley (also saving no virtually nothing on the cap)? Why did he trade Hjallmarsson for Murphy? Why did he sign Kunitz? Why did he sign Ward? Why did he sign Manning? Why did he trade Hossa's cap (with a useful player in Hinostroza)...only to not use the cap space? Why did Jan Rutta deserve a $2.3mil contract?

Questions aplenty!

- EnzoD



Stan must be giving great head to Rocky and MC D because I'm not a professional hockey guy but common sense and my own 2 eyes don't deceive me from what I see and the clear obvious problems with his inability to manage contracts
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Nov 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
Do they realize they're poopting all over a 22 year old forward who is averaging over 40 points per season again?

Schmaltz is not the problem.

You're catastrophically slow defense and utter lack of depth is.

- BINGO!

Bingo, BINGO!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:05 PM ET
Nah schmaltz is a problem he is pass happy won't shoot in prime areas, afraid to get hit nor aggressive to retrieve pucks in the corner and poor decisions with the puck.
- Taylorst1


He had 52 points last year. Tied for 102nd in the NHL. Tied for 88th among NHL forwards.

He's a legitimate top 6 forward in the NHL, arguably a borderline 1st line player if you consider that there are 90 of those in the NHL and he was among the top 90 most productive in the league.

Oh, and he's 22 years old.

You wanna do this AGAIN? What are you bringing up/trading for that's going to be better? Let the kid make his mistakes and grow into the player you need him to be instead of poopting all over him because he's not there yet.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Nov 13 @ 3:06 PM ET
And that's why I'm okay with Sikura getting seasoned in the AHL. He will be in the NHL in due time. It's best not to wreck his confidence, and instead, amp it up to the point where it's sky high once he does get recalled.

The Hawks have no top 6 prospects outside of him and Wise so it's best to bring them along at a smart pace. Several middle 6 and tons of bottom 6 prospects, though.

Speaking of which, Barratt is having a monster sophomore campaign so far at Penn State. Top 5 in NCAA scoring so far this early part of the season. He may prove to go from a 4th line grinder to someone like Shaw who can slot on any line and score while agitating the crap out of the other team. Reports say coaches love his attitude as he takes to feedback well and is actually quite humble off the ice.

- AEL_Fox




You said it best. They have 1 potential top 6 guy who is a year or 2 years out from being ready to make the team then another year or 2 before he evolves or regresss....


Which means this team has been run into the ground from their nhl team to farm team and then this whole Europe shopping is getting old. Their scouting team needs to be addressed.
Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:07 PM ET
He had 52 points last year. Tied for 102nd in the NHL. Tied for 88th among NHL forwards.

He's a legitimate top 6 forward in the NHL, arguably a borderline 1st line player if you consider that there are 90 of those in the NHL and he was among the top 90 most productive in the league.

Oh, and he's 22 years old.

You wanna do this AGAIN? What are you bringing up/trading for that's going to be better?

- BINGO!


Bingo, the problem is that I may have that many points playing with Patrick Kane, and I am a washed up 43 yr old beer league player!
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 13 @ 3:09 PM ET
Forgot to add...why did he give a big, slow, hard milage dman a Top 10 in the NHL Cap hit for 8 seasons after his 30th birthday? NO WAY anyone could've seen that turning out poorly......I'm sure I missed a few others...how about that trade return for Nick Leddy???
- EnzoD


You forgot Bickell's contract and throwing in TT to trade him.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Nov 13 @ 3:13 PM ET
I agree. Schmaltz should get a $3mil AAV 2 year Bridge deal based on his play thus far. Great potential, but all it is thus far is potential in a incomplete package. Knowing McStanBo....I'm very worried he will be yet another overpay.
- EnzoD




The problem is Stan over pays shaky, unproven, over the hill players ridiculous amounts of money term and adds NMC or ntc and trades out superstar or great talent.


I would have moved schmaltz for Skinner, only 3 years difference in age and Skinner is lights out a better player. His future contract would be around 7 to 9 million and I'm sure Chicago planned to pay schmaltz something In that range.



EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 13 @ 3:16 PM ET
The problem is Stan over pays shaky, unproven, over the hill players ridiculous amounts of money term and adds NMC or ntc and trades out superstar or great talent.


I would have moved schmaltz for Skinner, only 3 years difference in age and Skinner is lights out a better player. His future contract would be around 7 to 9 million and I'm sure Chicago planned to pay schmaltz something In that range.

- Taylorst1


I’m praying for additions to the lineup next year in...Anders Lee, Jack Hughes/Kaapo Kakko, and Tyler Myers. Boquist and Mitchell both make the team. Much better roster already.
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Nov 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
Even if we can snag Cozens, that would be really good. Supposed to be big, skilled and competitive.
- hawkitect


Or Dach/Kakko/Podkolzin/Lavoie/Kaliyev/Boldy..there is good group of forwards coming. If Hawks suck all year they are in good position to upgrade their talent pool in forwards.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 13 @ 3:19 PM ET
Or Dach/Kakko/Podkolzin/Lavoie/Kaliyev/Boldy..there is good group of forwards coming. If Hawks suck all year they are in good position to upgrade their talent pool in forwards.
- MjulQvist


It appears that Buffalo and AZ have finally moved up slightly out of the NHL’s basement. Looks like a battle between Chicago, Detroit, LA , and Ottawa for the 18.5% chance at #1 overall
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
I don't think Sean's volunteered to be out there to be out there. Coaching decision from Mars.
- RickJ



He had kampf (not fast), Seabrook (slower than not fast), and Kane (quick but not fast plus a bit of a risk taker) on the ice. Decision from mars I agree. As soon as I saw the line matchups (I was a bit discouraged with that) I said oh well and sure enough. . But I've seen Q do poop like that for 10 years. Perhaps Colition had too much trust in Seabrook's abilities as he knew him back in the day as a stud. And I'm sure he's trying different things as he tries to get comfortable. But the end of the game gave me the same feeling as when I watch Nascar and Kyle Busch wins, wasted my time watching when that's how it ends.

That friggin Aho is fun to watch though.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 13 @ 3:23 PM ET
Mark Lazerus

Jeremy Colliton on what he's learned about the Blackhawks in his first week as head coach:



well ok then...let's get'er done....
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Nov 13 @ 3:26 PM ET
Is like the Emperor finally realizing he has no clothes.
I have been a big Q critic but his firing exposed Blowman beyond my wildest dreams. Doubt anything will be done, he will still be here a year from now.
The Blowman/Q "marriage" was pretty toxic for a long time, resulting in Blowman trading for "Q guys" and Q not effectively utilizing players. It's what happens when hardheaded meets emptyheaded.

I'd say by January McDonut and Rocky will really see the fruits of Blowman's labors in the way of thousands of empty seats and ticket prices dropping through the floor.

Playoff-worthy roster indeed!

- savvyone-1


Don't you think they already see the rotten "fruits" of Bowman's labors ??
If they don't, they're blind. Enzo stated all the mistakes up above and things unfortunately will not change because they don't know what to do about it.

Do they have anybody in mind to take over as GM ?? I really doubt it.

Rocky and McDonough will play the wait and see game and allow him to retool with a high draft pick in hope that another high quality pick will improve the team to playoff level. The really sad thing is that anybody that knows hockey also doesn't have any trust in Stan making the other moves that are necessary to move the team in a playoff direction. At least everybody on this site anyway.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:26 PM ET
He had kampf (not fast), Seabrook (slower than not fast), and Kane (quick but not fast plus a bit of a risk taker) on the ice. Decision from mars I agree. As soon as I saw the line matchups (I was a bit discouraged with that) I said oh well and sure enough. . But I've seen Q do poop like that for 10 years. Perhaps Colition had too much trust in Seabrook's abilities as he knew him back in the day as a stud. And I'm sure he's trying different things as he tries to get comfortable. But the end of the game gave me the same feeling as when I watch Nascar and Kyle Busch wins, wasted my time watching when that's how it ends.

That friggin Aho is fun to watch though.

- 6628


He and Svechnikov are my sons and I love them deeply.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Nov 13 @ 3:30 PM ET
Bingo, the problem is that I may have that many points playing with Patrick Kane, and I am a washed up 43 yr old beer league player!
- Boisy12


The answer is - you wouldn't have as many points.

If you're a scorer (assists or goals), you score; if you aren't, you don't.

Good to be playing with Kane - but you still have to fight for position, get to where Kane can get you the puck, get your shot off with enough accuracy to beat the goalie.

You need the skills to be able to succeed with Kane.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:41 PM ET
The answer is - you wouldn't have as many points.

If you're a scorer (assists or goals), you score; if you aren't, you don't.

Good to be playing with Kane - but you still have to fight for position, get to where Kane can get you the puck, get your shot off with enough accuracy to beat the goalie.

You need the skills to be able to succeed with Kane.

- StLBravesFan



Rob Brown scored 50 in Pit with Lemieux as his center, (frank) all when he got here. The guy makes a point that's valid.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:48 PM ET
Rob Brown scored 50 in Pit with Lemieux as his center, (frank) all when he got here. The guy makes a point that's valid.
- 6628


Mario had 200 points that year. A freaking defenseman scored 30 goals, 113 points on that team.

And it was 30 years ago. Not sure it really is all that relevant to the way the game is today.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Nov 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
I’m praying for additions to the lineup next year in...Anders Lee, Jack Hughes/Kaapo Kakko, and Tyler Myers. Boquist and Mitchell both make the team. Much better roster already.
- EnzoD

Why would Anders Lee sign in Chicago? The Islanders are better and have cap space to pay him. Tyler Mayers ok fine, but how do you get rid of Seabrook? None of this is likely happening anyway
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Nov 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
He had kampf (not fast), Seabrook (slower than not fast), and Kane (quick but not fast plus a bit of a risk taker) on the ice. Decision from mars I agree. As soon as I saw the line matchups (I was a bit discouraged with that) I said oh well and sure enough. . But I've seen Q do poop like that for 10 years. Perhaps Colition had too much trust in Seabrook's abilities as he knew him back in the day as a stud. And I'm sure he's trying different things as he tries to get comfortable. But the end of the game gave me the same feeling as when I watch Nascar and Kyle Busch wins, wasted my time watching when that's how it ends.

That friggin Aho is fun to watch though.

- 6628

Hopefully Aho becomes the next Ales Hemsky
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 13 @ 3:58 PM ET
Hopefully Aho becomes the next Ales Hemsky
- GPHawksfan


I would like him to be much more than that, thank you. He's Saku Koivu 2.0

At least, I thought he was, but he seems to just keep getting better.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 13 @ 4:08 PM ET
Can the Hawks loan Seabs to the Federal League?
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 4:09 PM ET
Don't you think they already see the rotten "fruits" of Bowman's labors ??
If they don't, they're blind. Enzo stated all the mistakes up above and things unfortunately will not change because they don't know what to do about it.

Do they have anybody in mind to take over as GM ?? I really doubt it.

Rocky and McDonough will play the wait and see game and allow him to retool with a high draft pick in hope that another high quality pick will improve the team to playoff level. The really sad thing is that anybody that knows hockey also doesn't have any trust in Stan making the other moves that are necessary to move the team in a playoff direction. At least everybody on this site anyway.

- Hawkytalk

What moves? There is almost nothing left of value. Trade ABD? The healing won't begin until there is a change of mgt. The owner needs to stop any more damage right now or else nobody will want to be gm of this slow motion train wreck.
Savoy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spencer, NC
Joined: 01.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
What moves? There is almost nothing left of value. Trade ABD? The healing won't begin until there is a change of mgt. The owner needs to stop any more damage right now or else nobody will want to be gm of this slow motion train wreck.
- Savoy

Need a high quality gm? Q is available.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Nov 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
Can the Hawks loan Seabs to the Federal League?
- riozzo



He'd get his ass kicked
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