you are close, maybe if we include a poster from this board that will make the deal
- wcorvette

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RIP Stan Lee


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- opeth_pa

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i see more than in him than you do but that is my opinion. I do think he has brought something to Simmers game that fits. I think while Weal gets knocked down he is on the puck quick and will battle for it. You never know with JVR they might bury a few. Simmer and JVR needs to get to the center of the ice, Weal needs to get it to them. I do agree he needs to go to the net or high danger areas more.

I guess I would be interested on what else is out there. My sense is there is not a lot of 3c's putting up big numbers, that lines 1&2 are doing most of the scoring.

I just scanned some of the rosters and the points fall off dramatically after the first 6 players

Bonino for the Preds has 6 points and is plus 4
Kadri has 11 but is -5
Bozak has 10 at -3
Weal 5 points and is even but has not played 3C the whole season.
I looked at Boston, it seemed after the top line there was much in the way of points.

I just breezed the stats, I would be interested to see who the comparables should be for Weal.

I do think with how the team is playing Weal should be given more time at 3c, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Ill be clear (I WOULD LIKE AN UPGRADE). I just don't think there is one right now.

looking at the Flyers we want a 3C upgrade. it appears the are plenty of teams in the same boat.
- wcorvette

Kadri and Bozak are minus players due to doing the heavy lifting of playing the top lines of the other teams. Weal will never do that here with his skill set.

Kadri and Bozak are minus players due to doing the heavy lifting of playing the top lines of the other teams. Weal will never do that here with his skill set.
- dragonoffrost

I do agree and I am sure each team uses their "3C" differently. Of course Weal makes 1.6 and they make, well, lot more.

Kadri getting 15-19 over the last 5, Weal getting 12-15 TOI

i see more than in him than you do but that is my opinion. I do think he has brought something to Simmers game that fits. I think while Weal gets knocked down he is on the puck quick and will battle for it. You never know with JVR they might bury a few. Simmer and JVR needs to get to the center of the ice, Weal needs to get it to them. I do agree he needs to go to the net or high danger areas more.


- wcorvette

I think what I'm really getting at is that while we might not agree completely, you aren't using the adjective great to describe Weal in any way as a player.

I guess I would be interested on what else is out there. My sense is there is not a lot of 3c's putting up big numbers, that lines 1&2 are doing most of the scoring.

I just scanned some of the rosters and the points fall off dramatically after the first 6 players

Bonino for the Preds has 6 points and is plus 4
Kadri has 11 but is -5
Bozak has 10 at -3
Weal 5 points and is even but has not played 3C the whole season.
I looked at Boston, it seemed after the top line there was much in the way of points.

I just breezed the stats, I would be interested to see who the comparables should be for Weal.

I do think with how the team is playing Weal should be given more time at 3c, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Ill be clear (I WOULD LIKE AN UPGRADE). I just don't think there is one right now.

looking at the Flyers we want a 3C upgrade. it appears the are plenty of teams in the same boat.
- wcorvette

When Weal matches what those players have done in the recent past as well as other parts of their game other than points then you might be making a reasonable comparison.

Kadri and Bozak are minus players due to doing the heavy lifting of playing the top lines of the other teams. Weal will never do that here with his skill set.
- dragonoffrost

Not to mention that Kadri is coming off of back to back 32 goal 55+ point seasons.

I think what I'm really getting at is that while we might not agree completely, you aren't using the adjective great to describe Weal in any way as a player.

agreed, he is not, from what I have I would call him a serviceable 3C who with a small sample seems to fit with his wingers. We get to game 25 and the points aren't coming I will have a bigger issue. I don't think Laughton is the answer, nor do they have one. I like Laughton and have defended him for years. I like him on the wing and hope he does get more TOI


When Weal matches what those players have done in the recent past as well as other parts of their game other than points then you might be making a reasonable comparison.
- MJL

completely agree Weal has not but then we are playing this year and only the results from this year count. I don't think he has to match their points. IF with enough of a sample size Weal is close to those 2, it would be a success. I think Kadri, Bonnio and Bozack would be some of your better 3C's. It does appear most teams are lacking in the 3C area. All this is mute, within 24 months there will be a better in-house option for 3C.

completely agree Weal has not but then we are playing this year and only the results from this year count. I don't think he has to match their points. IF with enough of a sample size Weal is close to those 2, it would be a success. I think Kadri, Bonnio and Bozack would be some of your better 3C's. It does appear most teams are lacking in the 3C area. All this is mute, within 24 months there will be a better in-house option for 3C.
- wcorvette

It's relative. There are many 3C's who while they might not put up a ton of points, they bring other elements to the ice. Weal, if he is not putting up points, offers nothing else. Having other tools for a coach to utilize is a big part of it. A line with Weal has to be sheltered. It can't be used for defensive match ups or key D zone draws against other teams top lines. Last year they had the ability to use Filppula in that manner. It makes a difference.

It's relative. There are many 3C's who while they might not put up a ton of points, they bring other elements to the ice. Weal, if he is not putting up points, offers nothing else. Having other tools for a coach to utilize is a big part of it. A line with Weal has to be sheltered. It can't be used for defensive match ups or key D zone draws against other teams top lines. Last year they had the ability to use Filppula in that manner. It makes a difference.
- MJL

Would you keep Weal there for now or make a move for someone? If you would make a move for someone, who would you try to get? Or would you just wait it out and see if Vorobyev can take it back later in season or someone like Frost next season?

Not getting the Peter White love.

Oh sorry, I meant Jordan Weal.

But you can see how I could make that mistake.


He is the Crash Davis of hockey. Just like many others.

Not getting the Peter White love.

Oh sorry, I meant Jordan Weal.

But you can see how I could make that mistake.


He is the Crash Davis of hockey. Just like many others.
- MBFlyerfan

In fairness, Weal could skate circles around Peter White. But if the NHL pace had been slowed down one full stride to what the AHL pace was at the time, White would have been more than a 4th liner at the top level. Very good vision and hands.

In fairness, Weal could skate circles around Peter White. But if the NHL pace had been slowed down one full stride to what the AHL pace was at the time, White would have been more than a 4th liner at the top level. Very good vision and hands.
- bmeltzer

I feel the same way about Weal. He has above average AHL level offensive skills. He isn't overly physical, has AHL level hockey sense, and his above average AHL skills translate as average NHL level offensive skills, he doesn't have much else in his game to make up for it. Weal can get to the puck with his NHL speed, but his AHL level hockey sense, hands, and vision, gets him in trouble when he gets the puck. And his play without the puck leaves a lot to be desired imo.

I don't think he is a third line center. He can play as a 4th liner ok, but he still needs to be sheltered. I would rather not have to shelter a 4th liner when there are better options available.

I do agree and I am sure each team uses their "3C" differently. Of course Weal makes 1.6 and they make, well, lot more.

Kadri getting 15-19 over the last 5, Weal getting 12-15 TOI
- wcorvette

Kadri is playing in place of Matthews most shifts.

Would you keep Weal there for now or make a move for someone? If you would make a move for someone, who would you try to get? Or would you just wait it out and see if Vorobyev can take it back later in season or someone like Frost next season?
- ajw12

With JVR coming back, I'd like to see Laughton given a shot a 3C although it seems as though they view him as a winger. I'm not against acquiring a stop gap but I don't want them to deal a quality asset to attain one.

Ronald Darby torn acl? Well that's that time to talk

Ronald Darby torn acl? Well that's that time to talk
- bulet13

Yup anyone that has ever ruptured or torn their ACL knew that is what it was on him as soon as they showed the tests they were doing on the field.

So many injuries.

I don't doubt that. I just see Neuvirth as pretty much untradeable. Some decision is going to have to be made. I don't see Hextall wanting to keep 3 goalies on the roster.
- MJL

I heard they gave neuvy a physical....Dr. who gave physical is now on IR.

is PLindbergh still around or did we retire him already

Ronald Darby torn acl? Well that's that time to talk
- bulet13

yea eagles season is over no reason to watch them now

i see more than in him than you do but that is my opinion. I do think he has brought something to Simmers game that fits. I think while Weal gets knocked down he is on the puck quick and will battle for it. You never know with JVR they might bury a few. Simmer and JVR needs to get to the center of the ice, Weal needs to get it to them. I do agree he needs to go to the net or high danger areas more.

I guess I would be interested on what else is out there. My sense is there is not a lot of 3c's putting up big numbers, that lines 1&2 are doing most of the scoring.

I just scanned some of the rosters and the points fall off dramatically after the first 6 players

Bonino for the Preds has 6 points and is plus 4
Kadri has 11 but is -5
Bozak has 10 at -3
Weal 5 points and is even but has not played 3C the whole season.
I looked at Boston, it seemed after the top line there was much in the way of points.

I just breezed the stats, I would be interested to see who the comparables should be for Weal.

I do think with how the team is playing Weal should be given more time at 3c, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Ill be clear (I WOULD LIKE AN UPGRADE). I just don't think there is one right now.

looking at the Flyers we want a 3C upgrade. it appears the are plenty of teams in the same boat.
- wcorvette

This, besides the humorous posts, are what I enjoy reading here. Not everyone has to agree on everything posted, but a thought provoking question, that brings out the best responses deserve credit. On the other hand, a couple of the frequent posters act like such d!cks, that you want to reach and strangle em. Since that isn’t an option, I’d like to know where I can buy one of BiggE’s ignore buttons. If he doesn’t have any in stock, maybe we can just vote them off the island??