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Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Akeson, Martel, Weal. Just more in a long list of great players never given a chance.
- MJL
Meant to add Cousins to this list...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
Cousins....
- Konalover


Cal Heeter

Honestly, after letting up 2 goals on the first 2 shots, he did play well.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
Kings just lost Campbell for 4-6 weeks now.

I hear the Kings calling for a goalie.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
Kings just lost Campbell for 4-6 weeks now.

I hear the Kings calling for a goalie.

- J35Bacher


No Quick no Campbell????

AMac and GlassJoe for Phaneuf!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
Meant to add Cousins to this list...
- Konalover

Al Hill
1st NHL game 2 goals and 5 points

Spent the rest of his career bouncing between the NHL and AHL
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
Kings just lost Campbell for 4-6 weeks now.

I hear the Kings calling for a goalie.

- J35Bacher

Maybe we can glue Neuvirth back together and swap him for some stick tape?
Hckygoalie31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.25.2017

Nov 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
Kings just lost Campbell for 4-6 weeks now.

I hear the Kings calling for a goalie.

- J35Bacher



LOL....they're in such a mess right now, I wouldn't be surprised if they called kicking the tires on Neuvy.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
This. I see him as a nice 13th forward who can play multiple positions and step in if a skill player gets injured
- BiggE


Yes, this. He can slot in anywhere in the top 9 and the other lines can keep together, better for chemistry. Although with the right combo of linemates, Weal is probably a 3rd liner. The 3C experiment isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. So far, I liked him on wing better. Didn’t he play on Coots wing a few seasons ago?


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
This. I see him as a nice 13th forward who can play multiple positions and step in if a skill player gets injured
- BiggE


frogurt
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 12 @ 1:04 PM ET
Yes, this. He can slot in anywhere in the top 9 and the other lines can keep together, better for chemistry. Although with the right combo of linemates, Weal is probably a 3rd liner. The 3C experiment isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. So far, I liked him on wing better. Didn’t he play on Coots wing a few seasons ago?
- NC Flyers Fan


Giroux-Couturier-Weal

The domination line.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Agree to disagree, I just see a lot of flashes of a great offensive player when I watch Weal. He seems like a guy who hasn't put it altogether at this level yet though. He also hasn't been given consistent line-mates or a chance at his natural position for an extended period of time either and that's why I think the Flyers should give him a long look with Simmonds and JVR. He may never put it all together but I'd like to see the Flyers hold on to him even if it ends up just being for depth purposes.
- FreshFlyer


I tend to be with you on this. The whole team was playing terrible but Simmonds was invisible and Weise was too, I give Weal some credit, that line has been much better. I like Laughton a lot but I don't think he passes well enough to help Simmer. I hope with JVR back, it trigger some goals from the trio.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Giroux-Couturier-Weal

The domination line.

- SuperSchennBros


I do mean IF there is an injury.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Nov 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
Weal has over 100 games in the NHL and is 26 years old. I don't see his game changing much.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yes, this. He can slot in anywhere in the top 9 and the other lines can keep together, better for chemistry. Although with the right combo of linemates, Weal is probably a 3rd liner. The 3C experiment isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. So far, I liked him on wing better. Didn’t he play on Coots wing a few seasons ago?
- NC Flyers Fan



when he has had an extended look it was usually with Flip and Simmer.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
Maybe we can glue Neuvirth back together and swap him for some stick tape?
- BiggE



you are close, maybe if we include a poster from this board that will make the deal
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Weal has over 100 games in the NHL and is 26 years old. I don't see his game changing much.
- Doctor DOOM


It has looked like a fit problem to me. If Weal does fit best as say a RW on a line with a defensive center, where does that put him? The Flyers are deep at RW, short in defensive centers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
I tend to be with you on this. The whole team was playing terrible but Simmonds was invisible and Weise was too, I give Weal some credit, that line has been much better. I like Laughton a lot but I don't think he passes well enough to help Simmer. I hope with JVR back, it trigger some goals from the trio.
- wcorvette


So you see flashes of a great offensive player in Weal?
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 12 @ 1:29 PM ET
why in the world would the Kings be kicking the tires on Neuvy? He wouldn't even make it off the plane before he injured himself again.

Trade them Pickard, Let Lyon back up Elliott and let Stolarz have the Hart's leftovers.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
why in the world would the Kings be kicking the tires on Neuvy? He wouldn't even make it off the plane before he injured himself again.

Trade them Pickard, Let Lyon back up Elliott and let Stolarz have the Hart's leftovers.

- FlyerFan16


Cause Hextall will try to unload Neuvy first I would think. If that fails then yes try to trade Pickard.

Also we have to think Carolina will be getting calls also. As they have Darling, Mrazek and McIllhaney. Also who has Lack is probably getting called also.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
why in the world would the Kings be kicking the tires on Neuvy? He wouldn't even make it off the plane before he injured himself again.

Trade them Pickard, Let Lyon back up Elliott and let Stolarz have the Hart's leftovers.

- FlyerFan16





[ appropriate gif of joy ] -haven’t figured out how to do this, just imagine it.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 12 @ 1:35 PM ET
Cause Hextall will try to unload Neuvy first I would think. If that fails then yes try to trade Pickard.
- dragonoffrost

I don't doubt Hextall would. Kings would be crazy to take Neuvy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
Cause Hextall will try to unload Neuvy first I would think. If that fails then yes try to trade Pickard.
- dragonoffrost


I don't doubt that. I just see Neuvirth as pretty much untradeable. Some decision is going to have to be made. I don't see Hextall wanting to keep 3 goalies on the roster.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
No one is taking Neuvy unless it's part of a bigger deal and Hextall takes a hit on the return to move him. Just think, your goalie goes down, you really want to replace him with one of the most injury prone players there is?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
I don't doubt that. I just see Neuvirth as pretty much untradeable. Some decision is going to have to be made. I don't see Hextall wanting to keep 3 goalies on the roster.
- MJL

Lol he wouldn't even pass the physical to actually be traded even if he some team wanted him.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
So you see flashes of a great offensive player in Weal?
- MJL


i see more than in him than you do but that is my opinion. I do think he has brought something to Simmers game that fits. I think while Weal gets knocked down he is on the puck quick and will battle for it. You never know with JVR they might bury a few. Simmer and JVR needs to get to the center of the ice, Weal needs to get it to them. I do agree he needs to go to the net or high danger areas more.

I guess I would be interested on what else is out there. My sense is there is not a lot of 3c's putting up big numbers, that lines 1&2 are doing most of the scoring.

I just scanned some of the rosters and the points fall off dramatically after the first 6 players

Bonino for the Preds has 6 points and is plus 4
Kadri has 11 but is -5
Bozak has 10 at -3
Weal 5 points and is even but has not played 3C the whole season.
I looked at Boston, it seemed after the top line there was much in the way of points.

I just breezed the stats, I would be interested to see who the comparables should be for Weal.

I do think with how the team is playing Weal should be given more time at 3c, unless there is an obvious upgrade. Ill be clear (I WOULD LIKE AN UPGRADE). I just don't think there is one right now.

looking at the Flyers we want a 3C upgrade. it appears the are plenty of teams in the same boat.

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