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- BiggE

Did you hear something?

I was surprised to read that he is the odd man out considering he was held in fairly high regard once upon a time.

That said, if he is the odd man out here they should trade him to give him an opportunity elsewhere.
- Scoob

They should trade him if it helps the Flyers.

I could care less about giving him an opportunity elsewhere.

I would love to try and pry away a faltering prospect for a goalie we probably don't see in our future plans. Weal + Stolarz for Ho-Sang? I know Ho-Sang has had some issues but I think he would be so motivated if he got out of that organization.

I love when people I ignore, because they are obnoxious buttholes, respond to my posts.

FYI: I don't even bother to read what they write, nor do I care. But keep on responding, LOL.
- BiggE

It's basically like the Peanuts parents. I see the username and just move on.

They should trade him if it helps the Flyers.

I could care less about giving him an opportunity elsewhere.

I would love to try and pry away a faltering prospect for a goalie we probably don't see in our future plans. Weal + Stolarz for Ho-Sang? I know Ho-Sang has had some issues but I think he would be so motivated if he got out of that organization.
- J35Bacher

I'd like to make a deal with Ottawa, who I'm sure would love to move out Anderson, replacing him with a younger, cost-controlled option. The thing is, it looks like age may have finally caught him starting last year (not that he's getting much help), so....maybe we bring home Mr. Cherry Hill if they take Lehtera?

Stolarz/Lyon, Lehtera, Neuvirth for Ryan and Anderson? Something along those lines. Although I said age has caught up with him, I'd rather have him be the backup/1B over Neuvirth or Pickard.

I don't know why but I feel as though if the Flyers were to trade Weal wherever he lands he would light it up for some reason. I'd be hesitant to trade him unless something was coming back that would be of great value to the Flyers. I have actually liked what I've seen from Weal these past couple of games and I think when JVR gets back the Flyers should let him center Simmer and JVR. I could see Weal being a great playmaker for those 2. I love Laughton's game and would be fine with him as the 3c as well but I think the coaching staff should give Weal a shot between those 2 and see if he can produce more consistently. If he doesn't impress in about a week or so then slot Laughton into that role.

I'd like to make a deal with Ottawa, who I'm sure would love to move out Anderson, replacing him with a younger, cost-controlled option. The thing is, it looks like age may have finally caught him starting last year (not that he's getting much help), so....maybe we bring home Mr. Cherry Hill if they take Lehtera?

Stolarz/Lyon, Lehtera, Neuvirth for Ryan and Anderson? Something along those lines. Although I said age has caught up with him, I'd rather have him be the backup/1B over Neuvirth or Pickard.
- jmatchett383

I would definitely want to see the Flyers pursue Anderson or a similar type goalie but if Ryan is in the deal count me out. That contract is something I want no part of, and where would he even play on this team, a 4th liner getting paid that kind of money , no thanks. The only way this would make sense is if the Flyers did this deal and traded Simmonds for a top 4 d-man. If that was the case then maybe I could get on board with this.

They should trade him if it helps the Flyers.

I could care less about giving him an opportunity elsewhere.

I would love to try and pry away a faltering prospect for a goalie we probably don't see in our future plans. Weal + Stolarz for Ho-Sang? I know Ho-Sang has had some issues but I think he would be so motivated if he got out of that organization.
- J35Bacher

I have a buddy who used to play triple a with Ho Sang in Toronto and has remained friends with him over the years. He tells me Ho Sang is pretty big into the drugs lately , I know there's potential and all but I wouldn't want a guy like that on the team IMO.

I'd like to make a deal with Ottawa, who I'm sure would love to move out Anderson, replacing him with a younger, cost-controlled option. The thing is, it looks like age may have finally caught him starting last year (not that he's getting much help), so....maybe we bring home Mr. Cherry Hill if they take Lehtera?

Stolarz/Lyon, Lehtera, Neuvirth for Ryan and Anderson? Something along those lines. Although I said age has caught up with him, I'd rather have him be the backup/1B over Neuvirth or Pickard.
- jmatchett383

I feel like Ottawa would want an asset more geared to the future. The Flyers would also have to want Anderson for more than this year as he is signed through next season. I also think the Flyers at this point aren't in a position to move Lehtera. He gives them veteran center depth.

I don't know why but I feel as though if the Flyers were to trade Weal wherever he lands he would light it up for some reason. I'd be hesitant to trade him unless something was coming back that would be of great value to the Flyers. I have actually liked what I've seen from Weal these past couple of games and I think when JVR gets back the Flyers should let him center Simmer and JVR. I could see Weal being a great playmaker for those 2. I love Laughton's game and would be fine with him as the 3c as well but I think the coaching staff should give Weal a shot between those 2 and see if he can produce more consistently. If he doesn't impress in about a week or so then slot Laughton into that role.
- FreshFlyer

I'm not concerned in the least with Weal lighting it up or becoming great at anything if he was moved to another team.

I'd like to make a deal with Ottawa, who I'm sure would love to move out Anderson, replacing him with a younger, cost-controlled option. The thing is, it looks like age may have finally caught him starting last year (not that he's getting much help), so....maybe we bring home Mr. Cherry Hill if they take Lehtera?

Stolarz/Lyon, Lehtera, Neuvirth for Ryan and Anderson? Something along those lines. Although I said age has caught up with him, I'd rather have him be the backup/1B over Neuvirth or Pickard.
- jmatchett383

I'd probably want high draft assets coming back from Ottawa in this scenario because BOB RYAB's contract is so completely toxic. He's got an AAV of 7.25mil this year and for the next 3 years. That's.....a long time and a lot of money to pay Ryan to be mediocre.

I feel like Ottawa would want an asset more geared to the future. The Flyers would also have to want Anderson for more than this year as he is signed through next season. I also think the Flyers at this point aren't in a position to move Lehtera. He gives them veteran center depth.
- MJL

Also, the Flyers can be rid of Lehtera's cap hit after this season anyway.

I'm not concerned in the least with Weal lighting it up or becoming great at anything if he was moved to another team.
- MJL

Agree to disagree, I just see a lot of flashes of a great offensive player when I watch Weal. He seems like a guy who hasn't put it altogether at this level yet though. He also hasn't been given consistent line-mates or a chance at his natural position for an extended period of time either and that's why I think the Flyers should give him a long look with Simmonds and JVR. He may never put it all together but I'd like to see the Flyers hold on to him even if it ends up just being for depth purposes.

It's basically like the Peanuts parents. I see the username and just move on.
- jmatchett383

Exactly!

Exactly!
- BiggE

will you be spending more time on these boards after you retire?

Agree to disagree, I just see a lot of flashes of a great offensive player when I watch Weal. He seems like a guy who hasn't put it altogether at this level yet though. He also hasn't been given consistent line-mates or a chance at his natural position for an extended period of time either and that's why I think the Flyers should give him a long look with Simmonds and JVR. He may never put it all together but I'd like to see the Flyers hold on to him even if it ends up just being for depth purposes.
- FreshFlyer

What I see is a perimeter player who is not capable of generating chances for himself or for his linemates. I also see a player who is easily knocked off of the puck and never gets the puck or himself to the greasy areas on the ice. He holds the puck and never does anything with it until he gets knocked off of the puck. Another career minor league player who has never been given a chance.

Great is a puzzling adjective to use describing Weal's play even in glimpses. Surely a player showing glimpses of greatness would be playing at a higher level than Weal is.

will you be spending more time on these boards after you retire?
- rinaldo

They should trade him if it helps the Flyers.

I could care less about giving him an opportunity elsewhere.

I would love to try and pry away a faltering prospect for a goalie we probably don't see in our future plans. Weal + Stolarz for Ho-Sang? I know Ho-Sang has had some issues but I think he would be so motivated if he got out of that organization.
- J35Bacher

If they aren't going to use him, then keeping him around does not help the Flyers - iow, it hurts them. Therefore, no matter how you look at it (helping themselves, helping him with another opportunity, whatever) they should move him.

I'm not concerned in the least with Weal lighting it up or becoming great at anything if he was moved to another team.
- MJL

Same.

Also, that concern (that a player might suddenly become good) shouldn't ever be on the list of concerns when moving a player.

If they aren't going to use him, then keeping him around does not help the Flyers - iow, it hurts them. Therefore, no matter how you look at it (helping themselves, helping him with another opportunity, whatever) they should move him.
- Scoob

I agree, if he is not in their future plans and isn't going to be used in the AHL, they should do the right thing and trade him if they can so he can continue his career.

What I see is a perimeter player who is not capable of generating chances for himself or for his linemates. I also see a player who is easily knocked off of the puck and never gets the puck or himself to the greasy areas on the ice. He holds the puck and never does anything with it until he gets knocked off of the puck. Another career minor league player who has never been given a chance.
- MJL

Awesome that you see it that way. I see the opposite, a player who has offensive instincts and can be a threat offensively but doesn't always make the best decisions on the ice and sometimes things like that come with experience in the league which Weal does not have a lot of. He also makes a decent effort to backcheck and be in position defensively despite not being a world beater in that regard. Marty St. Louis had 2 points in 13 games in a season playing for Calgary in 98 and proceeded to have 18 points in the 99/00 season in 56 games for the Flames, he was then traded to Tampa where in his first season with them he only had 40 points in 79 games in 2001. It wasn't until the 03 season where St. Louis had his breakout year offensively. I'm not saying Weal will be St. Louis but the point is that sometimes it takes time to adjust and not playing consistently in your natural position with solidified line-mates can effect ones production. They need to give Weal a real chance to make a difference before the verdict is in on him being a "career AHLer" as you claim him to be.

Awesome that you see it that way. I see the opposite, a player who has offensive instincts and can be a threat offensively but doesn't always make the best decisions on the ice and sometimes things like that come with experience in the league which Weal does not have a lot of. He also makes a decent effort to backcheck and be in position defensively despite not being a world beater in that regard. Marty St. Louis had 2 points in 13 games in a season playing for Calgary in 98 and proceeded to have 18 points in the 99/00 season in 56 games for the Flames, he was then traded to Tampa where in his first season with them he only had 40 points in 79 games in 2001. It wasn't until the 03 season where St. Louis had his breakout year offensively. I'm not saying Weal will be St. Louis but the point is that sometimes it takes time to adjust and not playing consistently in your natural position with solidified line-mates can effect ones production. They need to give Weal a real chance to make a difference before the verdict is in on him being a "career AHLer" as you claim him to be.
- FreshFlyer

Weal's play has nothing to do with decision making and everything to do with ability and his talent translating to the NHL. It doesn't. If bringing up St. Louis is the best argument you can provide to support your stance on Weal then you don't have much of an argument. Weal has been and is being given a real chance.

What I see is a perimeter player who is not capable of generating chances for himself or for his linemates. I also see a player who is easily knocked off of the puck and never gets the puck or himself to the greasy areas on the ice. He holds the puck and never does anything with it until he gets knocked off of the puck. Another career minor league player who has never been given a chance.
- MJL

Agree.

He just doesn't bring enough for me. If this team is going to make a playoff push they'll probably have to look to acquire a 3rd line center.

Weal's play has nothing to do with decision making and everything to do with ability and his talent translating to the NHL. It doesn't. If bringing up St. Louis is the best argument you can provide to support your stance on Weal then you don't have much of an argument.
- MJL

Cool man , my argument totally applies in this scenario because the same thing you're saying about Weal was most definitely said about St. Louis back then as well. But obviously only your arguments are ones that are well thought out and can be taken into consideration as valid points.

Awesome that you see it that way. I see the opposite, a player who has offensive instincts and can be a threat offensively but doesn't always make the best decisions on the ice and sometimes things like that come with experience in the league which Weal does not have a lot of. He also makes a decent effort to backcheck and be in position defensively despite not being a world beater in that regard. Marty St. Louis had 2 points in 13 games in a season playing for Calgary in 98 and proceeded to have 18 points in the 99/00 season in 56 games for the Flames, he was then traded to Tampa where in his first season with them he only had 40 points in 79 games in 2001. It wasn't until the 03 season where St. Louis had his breakout year offensively. I'm not saying Weal will be St. Louis but the point is that sometimes it takes time to adjust and not playing consistently in your natural position with solidified line-mates can effect ones production. They need to give Weal a real chance to make a difference before the verdict is in on him being a "career AHLer" as you claim him to be.
- FreshFlyer

Imho, the St. Louis comparison is not valid. Weal is what you see - a small, marginal NHL player.

I love when people I ignore, because they are obnoxious buttholes, respond to my posts.

FYI: I don't even bother to read what they write, nor do I care. But keep on responding, LOL.
- BiggE

Imma butthole