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BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 12 @ 10:33 AM ET
Putting things in perspective for William Nylander
Or
Putting William Nylander in perspective ie is he wanting a bit too much?

Compare:

Chris Johnston

@reporterchris
Johnny Gaudreau contract:
2016-17: $3M SB, $3.75M salary
17-18: $6.75M
18-19: $6.75M
19-20: $6.75M
20-21: $3.5M SB, $3.25M
21-22: $6.75M


The 23-year-old was a restricted free agent coming off a career-high 78 points (30 goals, 48 assists) in 79 games last season.
Gaudreau was a fourth-round pick of the Flames in 2011 and has since developed into one of the game’s most electrifying talents.
He won the Hobey Baker award as the NCAA’s top player in 2013-14 and joined Calgary soon after, topping the 60-point mark in each of his first two full NHL seasons.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:39 AM ET
If you run into this problem with an Apple, you can take it to the genius bar and they'll charge you 400$ to install a driver or ask you to buy a new laptop altogether for a problem that would take a somewhat intelligent somewhat computer savvy individual a half a day to fix.

Convenience!

Apple preys on stupid people. It's disgusting. Would never ever buy an Apple product.

- TheMussel

I always laugh at the idiots who line up to buy new apple products
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
Putting things in perspective for William Nylander
Or
Putting William Nylander in perspective ie is he wanting a bit too much?

Compare:

Chris Johnston

@reporterchris
Johnny Gaudreau contract:
2016-17: $3M SB, $3.75M salary
17-18: $6.75M
18-19: $6.75M
19-20: $6.75M
20-21: $3.5M SB, $3.25M
21-22: $6.75M


The 23-year-old was a restricted free agent coming off a career-high 78 points (30 goals, 48 assists) in 79 games last season.
Gaudreau was a fourth-round pick of the Flames in 2011 and has since developed into one of the game’s most electrifying talents.
He won the Hobey Baker award as the NCAA’s top player in 2013-14 and joined Calgary soon after, topping the 60-point mark in each of his first two full NHL seasons.

- BreathLeafs2015


thats a fine comparison. i think willie at 7 is about right.

We have no idea what he has been offered by Dubas. what if he has not offered more than 6..what if its 5.5?


BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
thats a fine comparison. i think willie at 7 is about right.

We have no idea what he has been offered by Dubas. what if he has not offered more than 6..what if its 5.5?

- senstroll

Yes I think $7 would also be fair
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
thats a fine comparison. i think willie at 7 is about right.

We have no idea what he has been offered by Dubas. what if he has not offered more than 6..what if its 5.5?

- senstroll


One day, the truth will come out.

It will be interesting.

Clearly, one or both sides are being a little unreasonable here.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 12 @ 10:43 AM ET
One day, the truth will come out.

It will be interesting.

Clearly, one or both sides are being a little unreasonable here.

- Scabeh


thats why I havent jumped on either side yet. We dont know any details
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 12 @ 10:45 AM ET
One day, the truth will come out.

It will be interesting.

Clearly, one or both sides are being a little unreasonable here.

- Scabeh


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:48 AM ET
thats a fine comparison. i think willie at 7 is about right.

We have no idea what he has been offered by Dubas. what if he has not offered more than 6..what if its 5.5?

- senstroll

Cool, thats reasonable.
Nylander should sign that, its a fair deal for him.
But apparently he wants 8.
And 7 is too much for him.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
thats why I havent jumped on either side yet. We dont know any details
- senstroll


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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 12 @ 10:50 AM ET
One day, the truth will come out.

It will be interesting.

Clearly, one or both sides are being a little unreasonable here.

- Scabeh


That Chris Johnston report yesterday said, Nylander's camp turned down an offer of 6 yr/$40, or that maybe it wasn't turned down.

So, who knows anymore.. Just want it to end
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 12 @ 10:50 AM ET

- TrashPanda


If it's that obvious, why are so many people hating Nylander and calling him selfish?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
If it's that obvious, why are so many people hating Nylander and calling him selfish?
- Scabeh

Because all reports point to him turning down reasonable offers or wanting way more than hes worth.
If the leafs were hardballing and offering low ball deals, something would have come out already.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
That Chris Johnston report yesterday said, Nylander's camp turned down an offer of 6 yr/$40, or that maybe it wasn't turned down.

So, who knows anymore.. Just want it to end

- PatC80

And kypreos said that it hadn’t been formally offered. So no one knows what’s going on.
I still maintain he gets pastranak contract in the next 10 days or so.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
Cool, thats reasonable.
Nylander should sign that, its a fair deal for him.
But apparently he wants 8.
And 7 is too much for him.

- Fakepartofme

He hasn’t earned 7 based on comparable deals.

20 and 22 goals...sorry it does not match Pasta’s 34 or Gaudreaus 25 and 30.

And the fact he wants 6 at 3 years is laughable.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 12 @ 10:58 AM ET
If it's that obvious, why are so many people hating Nylander and calling him selfish?
- Scabeh


One day, the truth will come out.

It will be interesting.

Clearly, one or both sides are being a little unreasonable here.

- Scabeh


It's great that you cover your bases.

A reasonable deal would have been signed so long ago, it would have been easy and Nylander would be playing. Instead, he sits and takes the chance of going somewhere he doesn't want to play or sitting.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:59 AM ET
He hasn’t earned 7 based on comparable deals.

20 and 22 goals...sorry it does not match Pasta’s 34 or Gaudreaus 25 and 30.

And the fact he wants 6 at 3 years is laughable.

- Santo_44

Even with inflation, nylander isnt a 7 mil per guy.
Exactly, if he wants a 3 year deal, you aint getting 6 per.

Or shouldn't
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:00 AM ET
It's great that you cover your bases.

A reasonable deal would have been signed so long ago, it would have been easy and Nylander would be playing. Instead, he sits and takes the chance of going somewhere he doesn't want to play or sitting.

- TrashPanda

Or maybe he does want to play elsewhere. He will never be top dog here.
Never.
Maybe 4th.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:01 AM ET
It's great that you cover your bases.

A reasonable deal would have been signed so long ago, it would have been easy and Nylander would be playing. Instead, he sits and takes the chance of going somewhere he doesn't want to play or sitting.

- TrashPanda


The point was that we don't actually know who's being unreasonable here.

Sure, there's the reports of Nylander wanting 8M. But we have no idea what the Leafs are offering.

I'm not "covering my bases", I don't have an opinion because I have no idea what's going on. No one does except the people involved.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 12 @ 11:04 AM ET
Even with inflation, nylander isnt a 7 mil per guy.
Exactly, if he wanrs a 3 year deal, you aint getting 6 per.

Or shouldn't

- Fakepartofme

I think he’s been unlucky on the PP...like Matthews he hasn’t gotten a good opportunity until this season.

So I understand why he knows he’s a better player than his stats suggest...bad sadly for him that’s not how it works in the NHL.

markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:04 AM ET
The point was that we don't actually know who's being unreasonable here.

Sure, there's the reports of Nylander wanting 8M. But we have no idea what the Leafs are offering.

I'm not covering my bases, I have no idea what's going on. No one does.

- Scabeh


The truth is that the vast majority of "reports" are utter poope.

Do people really think that the Sportsnet panel is going to go into the intermission of a Leafs game and say "Nylander watch: we don't know what's happening so let's wait until we do"?????????

It's like Stephen A Smith in the NBA. He spews out absolute dumb poop, daily, and people get all pissed off and start furiously posting, tweeting, etc. IT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THE poop THEY'RE SAYING. THEY WANT YOUR CLICKS AND ENGAGEMENTS FFS.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 12 @ 11:04 AM ET
The point was that we don't actually know who's being unreasonable here.

Sure, there's the reports of Nylander wanting 8M. But we have no idea what the Leafs are offering.

I'm not "covering my bases", I don't have an opinion because I have no idea what's going on. No one does except the people involved.

- Scabeh


it looks more and more that nylander wants out now, and wants to decide where he goes - instead of being shipped out after this season (since leafs can't fit all under the cap).
honestly, if that's the reason, i would understand him 100%.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
BOSTON -- David Pastrnak signed a six-year, $40 million contract with the Boston Bruins on Thursday. It has an average annual value of $6.67 million.
The 21-year-old forward was a restricted free agent. He set NHL career highs in points (70), goals (34) and assists (36) in 75 games last season after he had 53 points (25 goals, 28 assists) in 97 games his first two NHL seasons. He was second on the Bruins in goals and assists in the final year of his three-year, entry-level contract.
Pastrnak missed the first day of training camp Thursday and is expected to join the Bruins by Saturday.

Sweeney said there's always risk in signing a young player to the term and salary Pastrnak received. But the Bruins have faith Pastrnak will continue to mature into a player worth the contract.
"He scored 34 goals; it probably starts there," Sweeney said. "He really went to work on his shot, his overall strength, his ability to get to areas of the ice."
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Because all reports point to him turning down reasonable offers or wanting way more than hes worth.
If the leafs were hardballing and offering low ball deals, something would have come out already.

- Fakepartofme


or not.

Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Nov 12 @ 11:27 AM ET
If it's that obvious, why are so many people hating Nylander and calling him selfish?
- Scabeh



Because he’s Swedish, and not from Alberta/Saskatchewan.




...oh...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
The point was that we don't actually know who's being unreasonable here.

Sure, there's the reports of Nylander wanting 8M. But we have no idea what the Leafs are offering.

I'm not "covering my bases", I don't have an opinion because I have no idea what's going on. No one does except the people involved.

- Scabeh


If Nylander is asking for $8M and, if the Leafs are only offering $5M. It's fair to say that both are at fault
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