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plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
Muzzin (4m) & Toffoli (4.6m)

2 years left

Good Ontario boys 👍

- mr.sir

Toffoli is probably a better fit for Leafs anyways.
He's an advanced stats darling as well, so definitely on Harry's radar.

Would prefer if Kings add that young speedy 3rd/4th line LW (forgot his name) and an unprotected 1st 2019, leafs adding 2nd.

But if the return for nylander would be toffoli, that's a great deal for leafs
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 11 @ 2:58 PM ET
I agree - Carolina is the best option, but Minnesota is no worse off cap-wise than LA your other suggestion, in fact they have lots of room next year. They could shed a contract or two to make it work.

Also about Minny - they are paying Ennis almost as much as Staal to not play for them.

- winsix

Wasn’t ennis bought out completely by Minnesota?
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:00 PM ET
Toffoli is probably a better fit for Leafs anyways.
He's an advanced stats darling as well, so definitely on Harry's radar.

Would prefer if Kings add that young speedy 3rd/4th line LW (forgot his name) and an unprotected 1st 2019, leafs adding 2nd.

But if the return for nylander would be toffoli, that's a great deal for leafs

- plantheparade


This would go down as one of the worst trades in the NHL in decades. Give yourself a shake please. Toffoli at age 26 has scored over 50 points once in his career. He is slow as (frank) - would not improve the fourth line of the Leafs significantly. Please come up with a better suggestion.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:02 PM ET
I agree - Carolina is the best option, but Minnesota is no worse off cap-wise than LA your other suggestion, in fact they have lots of room next year. They could shed a contract or two to make it work.

Also about Minny - they are paying Ennis almost as much as Staal to not play for them.

- winsix



I’ll take dumba and staal from Minnesota for nylander + garbage
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
Wasn’t ennis bought out completely by Minnesota?
- BreathLeafs2015


Minnesota is paying $2.1667M this year and $1.267M next year according to Cap Friendly.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
This would go down as one of the worst trades in the NHL in decades. Give yourself a shake please. Toffoli at age 26 has scored over 50 points once in his career. He is slow as (frank) - would not improve the fourth line of the Leafs significantly. Please come up with a better suggestion.
- winsix

Toffoli would be 4th/5th best fw on leafs after marner matthews tavares - and nylander is just slightly a better player.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:18 PM ET
Minnesota is paying $2.1667M this year and $1.267M next year according to Cap Friendly.
- winsix


Ok thanks for info. And what do you think for Eric staal and dumba for nylander.
Move Kadri at times left wing line two and staal 3C Mot to mention the luxutcome playoffs having 4 good C men and the goat or lindholm for 4C
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 11 @ 3:24 PM ET
Ok thanks for info. And what do you think for Eric staal and dumba for nylander.
Move Kadri at times left wing line two and staal 3C Mot to mention the luxutcome playoffs having 4 good C men and the goat or lindholm for 4C

- BreathLeafs2015

There's no way that Minny would do that deal
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 11 @ 3:24 PM ET
Toffoli is probably a better fit for Leafs anyways.
He's an advanced stats darling as well, so definitely on Harry's radar.

Would prefer if Kings add that young speedy 3rd/4th line LW (forgot his name) and an unprotected 1st 2019, leafs adding 2nd.

But if the return for nylander would be toffoli, that's a great deal for leafs

- plantheparade



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BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:27 PM ET
There's no way that Minny would do that deal
- walshyleafsfan

They would need cap space and staal has to come off the books to pay nylander $8mil ? No?
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:27 PM ET
Ok thanks for info. And what do you think for Eric staal and dumba for nylander.
Move Kadri at times left wing line two and staal 3C Mot to mention the luxutcome playoffs having 4 good C men and the goat or lindholm for 4C

- BreathLeafs2015


I think great - but Staal is on probably one of the best contracts in the NHL - a team like Minny will not move that. Playoff money is a big for them and trading Staal would make that nearly impossible.
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:29 PM ET
They would need cap space and staal has to come off the books to pay nylander $8mil ? No?
- BreathLeafs2015


Leafs would have to add, a pick and probably at least two prospects for that deal. Staal probably gets Minny a first plus at the TDL alone if Minny is out of contention.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:30 PM ET
Kreider, Skjei for Nylander and a 2nd round pick.
- plantheparade

Ugh
Hell no.
BreathLeafs2015
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Nov 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
Leafs would have to add, a pick and probably at least two prospects for that deal. Staal probably gets Minny a first plus at the TDL alone if Minny is out of contention.
- winsix

I here you. I’ve liked his play for many years-e staal. Remember the slap shot he took at Dion phaneuf?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
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Nov 11 @ 3:34 PM ET
They would need cap space and staal has to come off the books to pay nylander $8mil ? No?
- BreathLeafs2015

That deal heavily favours the Leafs. I'd doubt Minnesota would part with Dumba alone, let alone throwing in Staal
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
I here you. I’ve liked his play for many years-e staal. Remember the slap shot he took at Dion phaneuf?
- BreathLeafs2015


Yes. I think Leafs make a hard play for Staal at the TDL if Minny not in contention. And I remember.

You were talking about the leafs getting tougher - here's one for you. Bring up Mason Marchment right now and sit out Leivo. You add 6'4" of mean dirty LW to the fourth line and he can hockey too. He's got 7 points in 7 games for the Marlies and if he's even half as mean as his old man - players will start thinking twice before they goon up Marner. You also lose nothing by sitting out Leivo.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:38 PM ET
Not one bit. Injuries happen in hockey.
- Santo_44

Almost on a yearly basis for matthews
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
That deal heavily favours the Leafs. I'd doubt Minnesota would part with Dumba alone, let alone throwing in Staal
- walshyleafsfan


They would move Dumba for sure - read their blogs, they are every bit as offensively challenged as the Canes. And they need playoff money to keep the boat afloat. From the Leaf's perspective, they will not be trading Nylander for some slow 5th round talentless, garbage d-man that makes $4.5 million a year.
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Almost on a yearly basis for matthews
- Fakepartofme


I'll take talent plus regular season injuries - See Peter Forseberg, I know only 2 cups, 2 worlds and 2 olympic golds.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'll take talent plus regular season injuries - See Peter Forseberg, I know only 2 cups, 2 worlds and 2 olympic golds.
- winsix

Cool.

Lol
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:47 PM ET
Yes. I think Leafs make a hard play for Staal at the TDL if Minny not in contention. And I remember.

You were talking about the leafs getting tougher - here's one for you. Bring up Mason Marchment right now and sit out Leivo. You add 6'4" of mean dirty LW to the fourth line and he can hockey too. He's got 7 points in 7 games for the Marlies and if he's even half as mean as his old man - players will start thinking twice before they goon up Marner. You also lose nothing by sitting out Leivo.

- winsix

Why not give it a try.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
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Nov 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
They would move Dumba for sure - read their blogs, they are every bit as offensively challenged as the Canes. And they need playoff money to keep the boat afloat. From the Leaf's perspective, they will not be trading Nylander for some slow 5th round talentless, garbage d-man that makes $4.5 million a year.
- winsix

Not sure what this has to do with playoff revenue but as we stand they have the 3rd best record in the NHL.

Them trading Dumba and Staal for Nylander makes them worse
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:50 PM ET
Why the fack are the leafs going after an old slow staal in the nylander trade?

Jesus people.
winsix
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Nov 11 @ 3:57 PM ET
Why the fack are the leafs going after an old slow staal in the nylander trade?

Jesus people.

- Fakepartofme


42 goals and 76 points with a 3.5 million cap hit. He's nearly a point a game over a long career and he's 34. As a fourth line C and a 2nd power play unit guy - would be a big add IMO . He would be a great add at the TDL. Nylander has to get you a long term piece. My choice from Canes would be Hamilton, and Dumba from Minny. I know you like Trouba - but I don't see Jets trading him with Myers being sh!t and Buffalo head approaching retirement.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 11 @ 3:57 PM ET
Almost on a yearly basis for matthews
- Fakepartofme

Yeah lets just completely ignore health professionals on this

HB poster with a "feeling" is much more reliable

Read my earlier post about the doctor on Matthews...The doctor who has treated multiple NHL players and knows a thing or two about his profession.

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