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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 7 @ 1:16 PM ET


I did find it funny, though, that they name dropped Philadelphia as having a worse PK than they did. That's.....not a good look.

- johndewar


I didn't watch the whole video (basically boring) but I did catch that part. lol
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
Could you imagine if Uber recorded a video of Flyers players talking about their PK coach?
- hereticpride


Ive got issues with his PK results but the amount of respect the players have for Lappy is not something I am concerned about.
Gnostic
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.31.2017

Nov 7 @ 1:30 PM ET

- Scoob


two men say they're Batman, one of them must be wrong.

even batman gets industrial disease
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
If that's the standard you want to use but I'd rather use logic. This is more of the same of overrating Provorov such as signing him to an 8+M a year contract.
- MJL

That was a good laugh when 90% of Flyerzbuzz was clamoring he will at least be getting 8M per
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
- jmatchett383


Ok I got no comeback
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
If that's the standard you want to use but I'd rather use logic. This is more of the same of overrating Provorov such as signing him to an 8+M a year contract.
- MJL


If the Flyers feel he is a cornerstone of the team for the future, that 64M over 8 is still likely. Personally I would love to see a bridge deal worth 6.5M or less per. If Nylander could ask for 8M, there is no question Provorov could.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 7 @ 1:39 PM ET
Congratulations Kinmo!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 7 @ 1:40 PM ET
If the Flyers feel he is a cornerstone of the team for the future, that 64M over 8 is still likely. Personally I would love to see a bridge deal worth 6.5M or less per. If Nylander could ask for 8M, there is no question Provorov could.
- Glak18

They can feel he is that and still not have to pay 8M per, I think he would sign 6.5 for 6. Not many guys sign a $64M contract off their entry level (he is not Mcdavid). Nylander is the outlier playing hardball.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Nov 7 @ 1:46 PM ET
If the Flyers feel he is a cornerstone of the team for the future, that 64M over 8 is still likely. Personally I would love to see a bridge deal worth 6.5M or less per. If Nylander could ask for 8M, there is no question Provorov could.
- Glak18

I agree. I don't see paying 8M/Yr for him at this point. I hate to say it, but the last few games in recent memory he tends to make a couple of glaring cross ice passes that are intercepted and taken straight to our net. Major mental errors. I know that he is better than that. When he stops those, then he should talk about 8M/Yr.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 7 @ 1:46 PM ET
They can feel he is that and still not have to pay 8M per, I think he would sign 6.5 for 6. Not many guys sign a $64M contract off their entry level (he is not Mcdavid). Nylander is the outlier playing hardball.
- ClaudeFather


I am not Provorov nor his agent, but if he signs a 4-6 year extension for 6.5M or less I am thrilled. If either the Flyers or Provorov want a long term extension that goes into his UFA years, it will cost more without question. According to the Flyers history they don't tend to do that so we will see.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 7 @ 1:49 PM ET
I agree. I don't see paying 8M/Yr for him at this point. I hate to say it, but the last few games in recent memory he tends to make a couple of glaring cross ice passes that are intercepted and taken straight to our net. Major mental errors. I know that he is better than that. When he stops those, then he should talk about 8M/Yr.
- RustyPipes


Last few games make me wonder if a new contract is a possible reason for his struggles, maybe trying too hard to force plays and making mistakes because of it.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Nov 7 @ 1:50 PM ET
Last few games make me wonder if a new contract is a possible reason for his struggles, maybe trying too hard to force plays and making mistakes because of it.
- Glak18

Possibly. His first two years - outstanding. This year - somethings not right. Although I don't worry too much. He'll snap out of it and be outstanding soon enough.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
Last few games make me wonder if a new contract is a possible reason for his struggles, maybe trying too hard to force plays and making mistakes because of it.
- Glak18

I think he's played well the last few games and starting to round into form. First 6 games or so I thought he was terrible for his standards.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 7 @ 2:16 PM ET
two men say they're Batman, one of them must be wrong.

even batman gets industrial disease

- Gnostic


dang! I forgot all about that song.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 7 @ 2:20 PM ET
Again, I'm not really disagreeing with you, but that's not what the voters look at.
Go back the past 20 Norris winners, and I think you'll find that they all got top PP minutes.

- jmatchett383

I’m also not disagreeing with you but I have faith things will change one day. I wanna give an example of the last time outside of Lidstrom who was truly deserving.

During 2009-10 season we had Chris Pronger. Pronger had one of his top 3 career years in Philadelphia. Around Christmas of that season, I had a feeling this guy was deserving of a Norris nomination. So I did what I did at that time and looked up the top ten in defensive stats. Plus/minus, ice time leaders, shot blocking and points. Duncan Keith was leading or top five in all of these half way through that season. He won the Norris that season and the nhl needs to get back to this.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
I’m also not disagreeing with you but I have faith things will change one day. I wanna give an example of the last time outside of Lidstrom who was truly deserving.

During 2009-10 season we had Chris Pronger. Pronger has one of his top 3 career years in Philadelphia. Around Christmas of that season, I had a feeling this guy was deserving of a Norris nomination. So I did what I did at that time and looked up the top ten in defensive stats. Plus/minus, ice time leaders, shot blocking and points. Duncan Keith was leading or top five in all of these half way through that season. He won the Norris that season and the nhl needs to get back to this.

- SuperSchennBros

He may have been top 5 in those categories but he also had 69 points, you can't just leave that out. Provorov will most likely never have a 60 point season without PP1 time thus making it very difficult to win a Norris. In the past 8-10 years what was the lowest point total for a winner?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
He may have been top 5 in those categories but he also had 69 points, you can't just leave that out. Provorov will most likely never have a 60 point season without PP1 time thus making it very difficult to win a Norris. In the past 8-10 years what was the lowest point total for a winner?
- ClaudeFather

Nobody left out that Keith had 69 points. I very much included points in my post...
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
Nobody left out that Keith had 69 points. I very much included points in my post...
- SuperSchennBros

Haha thought you were looking at D exclusive categories but my point still holds true. Doughty won with 51 points and other than that past 8 years you needed 60+ (excluding Subban lockout year)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 7 @ 2:29 PM ET
If the Flyers feel he is a cornerstone of the team for the future, that 64M over 8 is still likely. Personally I would love to see a bridge deal worth 6.5M or less per. If Nylander could ask for 8M, there is no question Provorov could.
- Glak18


Any player can ask for anything. You see where Nylander currently is.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 7 @ 2:32 PM ET
Ill judge Provorov by how many cups he lifts. Its rare the Norris actually goes to the best defenseman.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 7 @ 2:36 PM ET
Nobody left out that Keith had 69 points. I very much included points in my post...
- SuperSchennBros


Nice
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 7 @ 2:40 PM ET

- Scoob

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 7 @ 2:42 PM ET
Even using could. It's extreme and unrealistic.
- MJL


Maybe. Maybe not.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
Hi Bill
Loved the Lindblom feature, keep em coming!!

Also congrats to Kimmo, well deserved honor for the Finnish warrior!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
I’m also not disagreeing with you but I have faith things will change one day. I wanna give an example of the last time outside of Lidstrom who was truly deserving.

During 2009-10 season we had Chris Pronger. Pronger had one of his top 3 career years in Philadelphia. Around Christmas of that season, I had a feeling this guy was deserving of a Norris nomination. So I did what I did at that time and looked up the top ten in defensive stats. Plus/minus, ice time leaders, shot blocking and points. Duncan Keith was leading or top five in all of these half way through that season. He won the Norris that season and the nhl needs to get back to this.

- SuperSchennBros


Do you think that Keith would have won if he only had 45 points instead of 69? A 24-point swing may have passed that trophy onto Mike Green.
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