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We will not finish with more than 3 wins this year.

How old is he??

At this point you trade anyone over 26 that will get you capital.

Whats the difference of picking up NOONE on offence in the offseason and NOT trading a 30 year old on defense when someone calls. It makes no sense at all

Its just bad decision after bad decision
- ZiggyBuff

That thinking is overrated. Unless I get a day one or two pick, I am indifferent. There is a long list of things wrong with this team. Not getting another 5th rounder for a pass rusher is probably in the triple digits on it.

We will not finish with more than 3 wins this year.

How old is he??

At this point you trade anyone over 26 that will get you capital.

Whats the difference of picking up NOONE on offence in the offseason and NOT trading a 30 year old on defense when someone calls. It makes no sense at all

Its just bad decision after bad decision
- ZiggyBuff

It’s actually not that crazy to suggest that you keep that defense intact....it’s not their fault that the offence is brutal.....hire a new coach and patch up the o-line and fix that wr group and find a quarterback whose last name isn’t Peterman and there is hope and not years from now either....can still get some years out of that defence while it’s still there.....crazy I know but it’s possible

Bring on Barkley

It’s actually not that crazy to suggest that you keep that defense intact....it’s not their fault that the offence is brutal.....hire a new coach and patch up the o-line and fix that wr group and find a quarterback whose last name isn’t Peterman and there is hope and not years from now either....can still get some years out of that defence while it’s still there.....crazy I know but it’s possible
- RatedR80

Defense is doing great! Where are all our expensive free agents?? Would love to hear at least one of there names mentioned all year making a play.

If there is a time to blow it up its right now. They already started it last year. Why half ass it?

Everything this staff does does not make sense too me.

Give away draft capital to draft a QB
Dont draft any people to help your Qb
Dont get a veteran QB
Dont pick up offensive players in the offseason
Pick up and over pay for free agent defensive scrubs
Dont trade anyone at the deadline?

But yup lets hang up on someone trying to send us a pick for a 30 year old that had 1-2 good games this year

If we think this defense is good then we are just the same old bills fans

How many blow outs this year??

2 players that you can build around
White and Edmunds

Everyone else average to very below average

Defense is doing great! Where are all our expensive free agents?? Would love to hear at least one of there names mentioned all year making a play.

If there is a time to blow it up its right now. They already started it last year. Why half ass it?

Everything this staff does does not make sense too me.

Give away draft capital to draft a QB
Dont draft any people to help your Qb
Dont get a veteran QB
Dont pick up offensive players in the offseason
Pick up and over pay for free agent defensive scrubs
Dont trade anyone at the deadline?

But yup lets hang up on someone trying to send us a pick for a 30 year old that had 1-2 good games this year
- ZiggyBuff

Whoa whoa I’m not giving management or coaches a pass in fact I said new coach but I will say GM as well.....the team made the playoffs last year then had a baffling off season and you see the results especially on offence....all I’m saying is you get someone with a clue to look after it and I think they can get better sooner rather then later

If we think this defense is good then we are just the same old bills fans

How many blow outs this year??

2 players that you can build around
White and Edmunds

Everyone else average to very below average
- ZiggyBuff

You don’t think the offence had anything to do with that? Look at last Monday....they all but shutdown the Pats and how did they get rewarded? Oh that’s right they didn’t....I imagine it’s not easy to have all the pressure put on you to stop teams from scoring when you know your team won’t score

It wouldn’t shock me to see 10 new starters on offense next year, with Dawkins the only returning day 1 starter. (Allen didn’t start week 1)

Whoa whoa I’m not giving management or coaches a pass in fact I said new coach but I will say GM as well.....the team made the playoffs last year then had a baffling off season and you see the results especially on offence....all I’m saying is you get someone with a clue to look after it and I think they can get better sooner rather then later
- RatedR80

Not jumping at you just this is getting old. Does not take a brain surgeon to see that something is wrong with this coach/gm.

I think what happen last year did us wrong. Get rid of all old regime players and make the playoffs.

Think mcstupid and d*ickbean thought they are like belichick now that they can win with any scrubs and dont need talent.

Got lucky with some breaks and taylor doing just enough.

Tried to do the same thing this year and are getting smoked.

By the way would love to see a blitz once every 4 games

You don’t think the offence had anything to do with that? Look at last Monday....they all but shutdown the Pats and how did they get rewarded? Oh that’s right they didn’t....I imagine it’s not easy to have all the pressure put on you to stop teams from scoring when you know your team won’t score
- RatedR80

Ok a good game or two or 3 this year

Question have they had more GOOD games or BAD games this year as a defense??

Thing Im scared about most is if they fire mcstupid, frazier will be head coach 😵

Im sure then we will never see a blitz ever

If we think this defense is good then we are just the same old bills fans

How many blow outs this year??

2 players that you can build around
White and Edmunds

Everyone else average to very below average
- ZiggyBuff

Defense has been up and down, they have had several blowouts, then play pretty decent.
Doesn't help when the O is putting up and avg of 7 pts per game, turning the ball over 4 times with 2 of them being touchdowns against.

Ok a good game or two or 3 this year

Question have they had more GOOD games or BAD games this year as a defense??

Thing Im scared about most is if they fire mcstupid, frazier will be head coach 😵

Im sure then we will never see a blitz ever
- ZiggyBuff

The blitz deal is on the play callers not the defense them self’s.....what the owners need to do after this game is say (frank) this...walk into the office on Monday morning with baseball bats and clean house of the gm and all the coaches then go from there....it’s obviousky not going to hurt the on field product in its current form

Defense has been up and down, they have had several blowouts, then play pretty decent.
Doesn't help when the O is putting up and avg of 7 pts per game, turning the ball over 4 times with 2 of them being touchdowns against.
- IonSabres

I kind of picture it like this.....defense comes out and makes a stop and they feel great about themselves and then you see the offence take the field and then a part of you just dies then it just gets to the point where you think “wtf am I even doing here?”

The blitz deal is on the play callers not the defense them self’s.....what the owners need to do after this game is say (frank) this...walk into the office on Monday morning with baseball bats and clean house of the gm and all the coaches then go from there....it’s obviousky not going to hurt the on field product in its current form
- RatedR80

Couldent agree more!!

#browns2.0

I kind of picture it like this.....defense comes out and makes a stop and they feel great about themselves and then you see the offence take the field and then a part of you just dies then it just gets to the point where you think “wtf am I even doing here?”
- RatedR80

Every fan feels the same way.
The D is serviceable, yet they have taken games off as well.

Lets just hope that after today we NEVER see peterman again... He should be cut tomorrow.... didn't even watch the 2nd half see he's up to 3 int... LOL. what a joke.

really throwing a Hail Mary when your up by 25???? and calling pass interference??

If we think this defense is good then we are just the same old bills fans

How many blow outs this year??

2 players that you can build around
White and Edmunds

Everyone else average to very below average
- ZiggyBuff

Two turnovers returned for TD's. This offense is a Pompeii level disaster. Defense is more than fine. The problem is that they ignored the offense this year.

We have a tie game between Bills and Sabres

How much is NASA paying you, glober?
- jcragcrumple

POTD

If we think this defense is good then we are just the same old bills fans

How many blow outs this year??

2 players that you can build around
White and Edmunds

Everyone else average to very below average
- ZiggyBuff

The Bears have like 200 yards

Without a doubt McStupid and D*ckbeane was a mistake.

Im hoping Housley gets the right players to become a good coach. Some of his decisions worry me. Jurys still out

Botterill is the one person I trust. Inherited crap, but had a plan and is going well.

Wish he didnt trade that 6th because id say hes been perfect haha!

Without a doubt McStupid and D*ckbeane was a mistake.

Im hoping Housley gets the right players to become a good coach. Some of his decisions worry me. Jurys still out

Botterill is the one person I trust. Inherited crap, but had a plan and is going well.

Wish he didnt trade that 6th because id say hes been perfect haha!
- ZiggyBuff

From a business side, I hate that trade.

I’m the biggest opponent of it.....but it’s inconsequential.

It’s like complaining about Marilyn Monroe’s mole.

The Bears have like 200 yards
- sbroads24

And 41 points. How many 3 and 15s does the opposing offenses have to complete in 1 year for us too see we just are not good. Or to mention blowouts.

This defense reminds me of Reinhart. All the haters at the end of last year were like hmmmm maybe i was wrong when you should of just trusted your eyes

Hope im wrong

And 41 points. How many 3 and 15s does the opposing offenses have to complete in 1 year for us too see we just are not good. Or to mention blowouts.

This defense reminds me of Reinhart. All the haters at the end of last year were like hmmmm maybe i was wrong when you should of just trusted your eyes

Hope im wrong
- ZiggyBuff

You're not wrong about the defense.