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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 9:09 PM ET
I don't know man, I don't see it. I'm talking largely about the supporting players. Cullen, Grant, Sheahan and Hornie are average to below average. Sprong and Guentzal are marginal. Simon is quick enough but not exactly a burner. I'd hang the effort issue on Rust (he's been disappointing).

I just hate how we get beaten to pucks by faster players. It's constant and I can't blame it all on effort.

- madmike71


Guentzel is pretty quick. He’s not Hagelin or Kessel quick but he is definitely quick enough to keep up with Sid.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:11 PM ET
Not the only thing I know more about than you. Quite a list I believe.
- Aussiepenguin


A really dumb list.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:12 PM ET
Guentzel is pretty quick. He’s not Hagelin or Kessel quick but he is definitely quick enough to keep up with Sid.
- j.boyd919


There's definitely a good amount of speed in the lineup. Could they use more? Sure, but I think the effort needs to be there more than adding speed.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 9:23 PM ET
There's definitely a good amount of speed in the lineup. Could they use more? Sure, but I think the effort needs to be there more than adding speed.
- Rinosaur



I honestly don’t think the Pens roster is that bad when healthy. There’s only a few roster spots that could use upgrades. Maybe 2 at most. Maybe 3 depending on your opinion of Oleksiak. But he’s an okay bottom pairing guy.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:24 PM ET
I honestly don’t think the Pens roster is that bad when healthy. There’s only a few roster spots that could use upgrades. Maybe 2 at most. Maybe 3 depending on your opinion of Oleksiak. But he’s an okay bottom pairing guy.
- j.boyd919


They've shown time and time again when they bring 100% effort for 60 minutes they win.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:26 PM ET
Boom!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:27 PM ET
And... ah... I am score.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Nov 1 @ 9:28 PM ET
Geno!
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 9:29 PM ET
GENO!!! Suck it Fedsy, suck it deep and Very intense!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
There's definitely a good amount of speed in the lineup. Could they use more? Sure, but I think the effort needs to be there more than adding speed.
- Rinosaur


To my eyes Rusty has lost a gear. Especially on take off. He's still fast though, I just think he used to be swifter.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:36 PM ET
I honestly don’t think the Pens roster is that bad when healthy. There’s only a few roster spots that could use upgrades. Maybe 2 at most. Maybe 3 depending on your opinion of Oleksiak. But he’s an okay bottom pairing guy.
- j.boyd919

I agree. Not much we can do to seriously upgrade the team when Shultz is back. The blue line is what it is. I would like to see ZAR or Teddy B get a call up soon to push Cullen out of the lineup though. When we signed him I was worried this would happen. He should be treated as a 13th forward at this juncture of his career. Not a full time 4C. Sheahan is the paragon of 4Cs, why are we letting broke down Cullen do that job?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 9:37 PM ET
The (frank)ing Cullen line gets the last minute? Awful.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:38 PM ET
GENO!!! Suck it Fedsy, suck it deep and Very intense!
- VeryModernMan




Mate it's all luck.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 9:38 PM ET
I agree. Not much we can do to seriously upgrade the team when Shultz is back. The blue line is what it is. I would like to see ZAR or Teddy B get a call up soon to push Cullen out of the lineup though. When we signed him I was worried this would happen. He should be treated as a 13th forward at this juncture of his career. Not a full time 4C. Sheahan is the paragon of 4Cs, why are we letting broke down Cullen do that job?
- Victoro311


“Because we lost some of that leadership in the room.”
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:39 PM ET
“Because we lost some of that leadership in the room.”
- j.boyd919

That’s the beauty of the 13th forward. You get all that leadership without having to actually play him.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Nov 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
To my eyes Rusty has lost a gear. Especially on take off. He's still fast though, I just think he used to be swifter.
- MattStrat


I agree, but I don't know how he could lose a gear at his age. That's why I wonder about effort with him.

I'm just a little concerned with how pedestrian our bottom 6 looks through large stretches of the game. If you're not scoring you need to do other things.....pretty much like Hags. I guess Brass will help when he gets back.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
That’s the beauty of the 13th forward. You get all that leadership without having to actually play him.
- Victoro311


I'd really like to see Cullen or Grant come out and give someone like Haggerty a shot.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:43 PM ET
I agree, but I don't know how he could lose a gear at his age. That's why I wonder about effort with him.

I'm just a little concerned with how pedestrian our bottom 6 looks through large stretches of the game. If you're not scoring you need to do other things.....pretty much like Hags. I guess Brass will help when he gets back.

- madmike71


I'm not worried about Rust. He seems to be a 2nd half of the season type of player.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:43 PM ET
Cullen is trash. I honestly can't believe they brought him back. Shoulda brought Kunitz back instead. Not that he's having the best year production wise, but at least he can still help drive play and isn't always buried in his own zone.
- j.boyd919


Ryan Wilson, that you?

lol
"Another subpar move for this offseason. Matt Cullen was a great addition for the two years he played for Pittsburgh previously. He’s completely shot now....If the team wanted nostalgia and locker room intangibles Chris Kunitz at 1M for one year like he signed in Chicago would have made a lot more sense."
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:44 PM ET
Wow... big ups to Greiss
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:45 PM ET
Cheesus Greiss!
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:46 PM ET
How good has Letang been?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
F'n shootouts...usually turn it off. Entertaining OT though.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
That’s the beauty of the 13th forward. You get all that leadership without having to actually play him.
- Victoro311


True words, i'm also a little Very disappointed in Cullen.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
Cheesus Greiss!
- MattStrat


Sid was finally trying to deke instead of shoot on a breakaway and now you know he'll shoot on the shootout lol
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