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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 6:42 PM ET
He does read really well. Quoting other people's data is also a strength. Comprehension of other things not do much.

Comment of the day though my Deutcher friend.

- Aussiepenguin

LMAO you (frank)s are hysterical. You can't even stay on topic.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 6:43 PM ET
But... he’s not wrong. It’s not like he said anything that isn’t accurate.
- j.boyd919


Well obviously Geno will not continue 17SP% or 2pts/game.

I was just pointing out that Geno's success is just barely luck, as what was more or less implied in pointing out to the currently high SP%/SPSV%.

But now lets look forward to the game...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
Well obviously Geno will not continue 17SP% or 2pts/game.

I was just pointing out that Geno's success is just barely luck, as what was more or less implied in pointing out to the currently high SP%/SPSV%.

But now lets look forward to the game...

- VeryModernMan

Yeah its called a small sample size you (frank).
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
Yeah its called a small sample size
- Feds91Stammer


And all i replied to you is that Geno delivers near this pace (1.20ppg!) for 794 NHL games now - due times of really low scoring... a half league above Fedorov, a league above Dats and two above Z - and even above Yzerman when you adjust to 90ies-scoring. All i can see in all your posts is that you envy that DRW can't offer anywhere near that "luck" for two decades now.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Nov 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
Nah. Attempting to prove anything to you is nothing but a waste of time because of your pointless gibberish. Arguing in circles without real opinions is your game and I don’t really feel like playing it. It’s retarded.
- j.boyd919


No my comments are factual. It's the analytics you sweat by that are flawed.

Again as it was brought up earlier by Steamer, how does analytics PDO show the difference in player quality & shot quality?

Na na, ha ha ha ha - that's pretty catchy that tune.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
And all i replied to you is that Geno delivers near this pace (1.20ppg!) for 794 NHL games now - due times of really low scoring... a half league above Fedorov, a league above Dats and two above Z - and even above Yzerman when you adjust to 90ies-scoring. All i can see in all your posts is that you envy that DRW can't offer anywhere near that "luck" for two decades now.
- VeryModernMan

Buddy you are embarrassing yourself.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 7:13 PM ET
No my comments are factual. It's the analytics you sweat by that are flawed.

Again as it was brought up earlier by Steamer, how does analytics PDO show the difference in player quality & shot quality?

Na na, ha ha ha ha - that's pretty catchy that tune.

- Aussiepenguin

Is 17 more than 10? Maybe you can comprehend that.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Nov 1 @ 7:13 PM ET
Yeah its called a small sample size you (frank).
- Feds91Stammer


But mummy that boy is being mean to me again.......

Waaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaah.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 7:16 PM ET
that boy
- Aussiepenguin


Oleksiak prints quick 4 points - good boy.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
I'm gonna completely honest. I don't understand what PDO is/measures.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
yay! finally a shot
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
The rise of Simon
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
I'm gonna completely honest. I don't understand what PDO is/measures.
- Rinosaur


Its the sum of SP% and SV% (also called SPSV%)... simply said PDO above 102 implies team outperforms themselves ("are lucky") and below 98 reverse.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:23 PM ET
Its the sum of SP% and SV% (also called SPSV%)... simply said PDO above 102 implies team outperforms themselves ("are lucky") and below 98 reverse.
- VeryModernMan


Gotcha, so the perception is a team with high PDO is overachieving and will come back down to earth.

Thanks
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 7:25 PM ET
Gotcha, so the perception is a team with high PDO is overachieving and will come back down to earth.

Thanks

- Rinosaur


Yes, a PDO of 100 is the "swinging point" in that theory.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Nov 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
Is 17 more than 10? Maybe you can comprehend that.
- Feds91Stammer

Stay on topic.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 7:28 PM ET
No my comments are factual. It's the analytics you sweat by that are flawed.

Again as it was brought up earlier by Steamer, how does analytics PDO show the difference in player quality & shot quality?

Na na, ha ha ha ha - that's pretty catchy that tune.

- Aussiepenguin


Nope. Nothing you say is factual. It’s all gibberish.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:29 PM ET
Go back to (frank)ing wallabies. Your stupidity is mind boggling.
- j.boyd919

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:32 PM ET
Yeah its called a small sample size you (frank).
- Feds91Stammer


Don't get him started on sample sizes, please...
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
The rise of Simon
- Rinosaur


I read Sid asked for him on his wing already at training camp, but it took now 9 games till they get a deeper look...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
Here's your chance to impress.

Give me an example of a shot recorded by a player & tell me how effective that shot was. Then compare 2 different players & tell me which players shot was better.

You can probably guess what my next comment will be.

Well punk........go ahead..... make my day!

Now no crying back to mummy Steamer.

- Aussiepenguin


Oh... my.... lord...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 7:34 PM ET
Don't get him started on sample sizes, please...
- Rinosaur


The best part about it is... analytics are nothing but numbers. They are literally factual events they happened in the game. Do analytics “say” anything? No. No they don’t. They’re numbers that individuals use to determine their opinion on said player. Numbers themselves don’t say “this player is good” or “this player is bad.” But dude is too dense to really understand anything. (frank)ing idiot.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Nov 1 @ 7:38 PM ET
The best part about it is... analytics are nothing but numbers. They are literally factual events they happened in the game. Do analytics “say” anything? No. No they don’t. They’re numbers that individuals use to determine their opinion on said player. Numbers themselves don’t say “this player is good” or “this player is bad.” But dude is too dense to really understand anything. (frank)ing idiot.
- j.boyd919


And there's definitely enough a sample size to show that.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 1 @ 7:42 PM ET
And there's definitely enough a sample size to show that.
- Rinosaur


Oh for sure. The sample size of retarded comments is YUUUUUUUUUUGE
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Nov 1 @ 7:44 PM ET
The best part about it is... analytics are nothing but numbers. They are literally factual events they happened in the game. Do analytics “say” anything? No. No they don’t. They’re numbers that individuals use to determine their opinion on said player. Numbers themselves don’t say “this player is good” or “this player is bad.” But dude is too dense to really understand anything. (frank)ing idiot.
- j.boyd919


So players score .55 of a goal? When does that happen?
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