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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:33 AM ET
Maybe that will be JVR in a week or two.

Then Laughton can complete his journey from Hextall's bright spot to Hakstol's healthy scratch.

- Feanor



Laughton screwed up on a critical PK.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
Laughton screwed up on a critical PK.
- MJL


Not so bright after all.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Oct 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
I love Couts, but it's clear he doesn't produce to the same level as others on that unit.

From the three years Schenn occupied that spot, His scoring rate was 5.03 p/60. Hartnell was at 4.66p/60 for the 3 previous seasons.

In 17-18 Couts was at 3.16 p/60.

I don't know if a better option currently exists on the team, but that position requires someone who can win loose puck battles, good with deflections and has a decent shot. I wouldn't mind trying Laughton, JVR or Lindblom there, both really good with deflections and board battles. Laughton as a very good wrist shot.

- VladDrag


I think JVR should take that spot when he gets healthy but I don't think Laughton or Lindblom would be better than Coots right now on the power play. I think Coots' shot and deflection ability is a bit underrated. If his confidence is really gonna start getting better, which you could see it improving last night with the between the legs shot, I'm not moving him off the top PP.

I would like to see a little bit more out of Laughton and Lindblom at least on PP2 before I say they're a better option than Coots in that position.

Edit: I would also like to give Coots a bit longer of a chance in that position before I compare him to Schenn and Hartnell in that position. I think he has the potential to be really good there. So far he's been just ok.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
Bonfires burning bright
Pumpkin faces in the night
I remember Halloween
Dead cats hanging from poles
Little dead are out in droves
I remember Halloween

- jmatchett383


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:36 AM ET
I think JVR should take that spot when he gets healthy but I don't think Laughton or Lindblom would be better than Coots right now on the power play. I think Coots' shot and deflection ability is a bit underrated. If his confidence is really gonna start getting better, which you could see it improving last night with the between the legs shot, I'm not moving him off the top PP.

I would like to see a little bit more out of Laughton and Lindblom at least on PP2 before I say they're a better option than Coots in that position.

Edit: I would also like to give Coots a bit longer of a chance in that position before I compare him to Schenn and Hartnell in that position. I think he has the potential to be really good there. So far he's been just ok.

- ajw12


With the Flyers PP setup. JVR is the wrong hand shot to play that spot.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 31 @ 11:37 AM ET
With the Flyers PP setup. JVR is the wrong hand shot to play that spot.
- MJL


He's talking about the slot position, currently occupied by Couturier, formerly occupied by Schenn and Hartnell. All lefties, like JVR.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
He's talking about the slot position, currently occupied by Couturier, formerly occupied by Schenn and Hartnell. All lefties, like JVR.
- Feanor



My bad. Thanks
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:42 AM ET
That’s all I need to know on what the he’ll is going on in that locker room with Weise getting voted player of game.

Win is a win, but again way to many defensive breakdowns and odd man rushes.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
I love Couts, but it's clear he doesn't produce to the same level as others on that unit.

From the three years Schenn occupied that spot, His scoring rate was 5.03 p/60. Hartnell was at 4.66p/60 for the 3 previous seasons.

In 17-18 Couts was at 3.16 p/60.

I don't know if a better option currently exists on the team, but that position requires someone who can win loose puck battles, good with deflections and has a decent shot. I wouldn't mind trying Laughton, JVR or Lindblom there, both really good with deflections and board battles. Laughton as a very good wrist shot.

- VladDrag

Then maybe the coaches can come up with a different look or scheme. Rather save 14 for other areas where he is more effective.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:43 AM ET
Nah I'm good. Until you back up your opinions with some substance I'm done with these convos
- ajw12

no your not. your a like a crack feign and can't help yourself.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:44 AM ET
I think JVR should take that spot when he gets healthy but I don't think Laughton or Lindblom would be better than Coots right now on the power play. I think Coots' shot and deflection ability is a bit underrated. If his confidence is really gonna start getting better, which you could see it improving last night with the between the legs shot, I'm not moving him off the top PP.

I would like to see a little bit more out of Laughton and Lindblom at least on PP2 before I say they're a better option than Coots in that position.

- ajw12


Couts can deflect a puck well, and his shot isn't a negative, but he doesn't routinely make blow the puck past goalies, or make the goalie come up with a difficult save. Laughton has that shooting ability. That's why him at LW is nice, because he can use his feet to gain a bit more space and fire the puck on net.

I don't know if either one of them are going to be an out and out better option than Couts, but I also don't see why Couts has to be on PP1, either. His play is not particularly best suited for powerplay time imo.

He's average on the PP, and his points on the PP were probably inflated a bit due to the fact that he's playing with 3 of the top PP point producers (and one of the top PP goal scorers) last season.

Ultimately, I don't know if it really matters who is in that area, they're going to get points. Some more than others. One thing is for sure, the PP lives and dies from Giroux and Ghost (and to a lesser extent Voracek).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
One of the most underrated aspects of Schenn on the Flyers PP was his puck retreivals and winning battles for loose pucks. He was very good in that regard helping the Flyers to more zone attack time. In addition to scoring well. Couturier being able to take draws well also is a factor.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
Anyone else see Nolan talking poop after scoring that goal??
- ajw12

I saw it and absolutely i loved it. It was directly to Kesler as he was skating by. I loved it, as Kesler is a grade A A-hole and i'm sure was doing a lot of talking throughout the game.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
Then maybe the coaches can come up with a different look or scheme. Rather save 14 for other ares where he is more effective.
- rinaldo


Agreed. That's been my point.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:47 AM ET
I saw it and absolutely i loved it. It was directly to Kesler as he was skating by. I loved it, as Kesler is a grade A A-hole and i'm sure was doing a lot of talking throughout the game.
- Yosimar89

Kesler hacked at Patrick's leg on the faceoff that started that shift
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
That’s all I need to know on what the he’ll is going on in that locker room.

Win is a win, but again way to many defensive breakdowns and odd man rushes.

- Buzzo


Yeah, whatever. They won!!! As long as they win, I’m not going to pick apart their mistakes. They get a “get out of jail free card” from me. Keep those wins coming!

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:49 AM ET
exactly how NAK looked over the last 20 months
- YuenglingJagr

So the GM brings up 2 players and the coach proceeds to scratch one and play the other 5:45 or whatever. On the surface there seems to be a disconnect there.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
Yeah, whatever. They won!!! As long as they win, I’m not going to pick apart their mistakes. They get a “get out of jail free card” from me. Keep those wins coming!
- NC Flyers Fan

Hakstol alt?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Oct 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
I saw it and absolutely i loved it. It was directly to Kesler as he was skating by. I loved it, as Kesler is a grade A A-hole and i'm sure was doing a lot of talking throughout the game.
- Yosimar89


Agreed! I can't stand Kessler, he was acting like such a baby with TK taking trash and messing with him all game. I just wish i could tell what he was saying lol
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hakstalt?
- YuenglingJagr

ftfy
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:52 AM ET
From the little bit I saw yesterday, I thought NAK looked good. If they can get him up to 8-10 mins of ES per game and he is playing well, than Weal would be the guy I sit when JVR comes back.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:53 AM ET
So the GM brings up 2 players and the coach proceeds to scratch one and play the other 5:45 or whatever. On the surface there seems to be a disconnect there.
- mayorofangrytown

maybe the coach wants out and hopes to be fired
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:54 AM ET
From the little bit I saw yesterday, I thought NAK looked good. If they can get him up to 8-10 mins of ES per game and he is playing well, than Weal would be the guy I sit when JVR comes back.
- BiggE

Weal is like a child's top. There's a lot of moving and spinning around but when all is said and done nothing really happened.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 31 @ 11:55 AM ET
ftfy
- Scoob

aaayyeeeee
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 11:55 AM ET
maybe the coach wants out and hopes to be fired
- rinaldo

Maybe he could get a cushy long tenured position with a college somewhere.
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