Bennett's name has come up in the past, that the Flames might move him. He's been something of a disappointment as a 1st rounder, hasn't matched a very good rookie year. I really don't want Smith.
- fls13

Ok, but why would Calgary want or need Lindblom?

Ok, but why would Calgary want or need Lindblom?
- Glak18

You'd have to ask a Flames fan what they would want in return. I'm just saying that's what I'd give up straight up for Bennett. If the Flames did move Smith, I would think they'd need a goalie back. They seem in good shape on D. I think if they did move Bennett, they would want a forward back. The Flames aren't in as bad a shape as the Flyers are at the moment, but it's Ek's rumor, not mine. Do not want Smith.

Though I agree with that principle, they need to get the power play going ASAP. They also have to sort out which goalie theyre cutting loose. If Weal isnt the answer at 3C Hextall should be shopping for one.
- Baxter27

I really think you could try Laughton there when JVR comes back.

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I still am not giving up on Weal but it’s getting to the point where I am done with him. The 16-17 season seems more abnormal than the norm. I will give him a few more games but he needs to start producing a bit more

Berube was the reason why Hartnell was shipped out of town and it was widely reported that Scott held Berube responsible. So I don’t know if they loved Berube at all.

The roster has changed pretty dramatically since Laviolette and Berube. The only core regulars who remain are Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier and oddly enough Raffl.
- SuperSchennBros

Yea but under Berube how many of those players were plugs we were trying to get rid of? Hartnell, Leino, Briere, Bryz, Vinny, Luke Schenn, Grossman, Streit, Read, Del Zotto, Shultz, White, Gagner, Vandevelde, Coburn, Akeson, Cousins, Zepp, B.Jones, Laurisden ect

You make sense, but if they get back on track, what's the ceiling for this team?

Reason I ask is if it's still just a playoff team who could get bounced in round 1 or 2, Hextall needs to either sh!t or get off the pot. Make a move that puts you in contention or start over.

I don't think Hextall has failed. I just don't know how much longer "just being a playoff team " is going to last.
- Pelle31Forever

Right now the ceiling of this team is probaly first round exit again, maybe second if they are lucky. Right now they dont seem ready. Young players arent producing consistently enough. Konecny doesnt look like hes playing with a lot of confidence right now. Late last season he was dominant making poop happen.

Flyers future is bright but we have to be patient. We are a young team and the lack of production by our youth is what is keeping us out of games right now. There were a bunch of winnable games out there despite the defensive lapses.

Once Konecny, Patrick, Lindblom, and our young guns at D break out, this will be a very dangerous team. They are young know and inconsistent which is to be expected. I think the problem is we got way too excited about our young players and we expected them to produce like Giroux almost instantly. Our 2nd line right now consists of two second year players and a first year player. That offensively is a recipe for disaster. It doesnt help that we lack 3rd line support as well at the moment as well.

Has there been any talk about the Flyers crossing the picket line in Boston? Was just curious as I've haven't seen anything about it. Strange to me since they're in a union themselves.

Even if the team doesn’t right the ship, I don’t really see Hextall or Hakstol going. Other changes, sure. If something taking years to make is 85% built but it isn’t functional and the deadline for completion has been delayed, you don’t scrap it and start over. Maybe this wasn’t the season I was waiting for and the disappointment is just terrible, but I don’t think starting over will help.
- NC Flyers Fan

Agreed. If Hextall feels the need to start over, than ownership should feel the need to hire a new GM because that would mean Hextall seriously screwed up.

we don't deserve Claude Giroux

we don't deserve Claude Giroux
- Mordecai

Since the 04-05 lockout, this fanbase has loyally supported the team for 13 seasons.

The results:
Missed the playoffs 4 times, including the worst season in club history

5 first round exits, including last year in which they went out with a whimper

2 second round exits, in which they were dominated both times

2 good runs, one to the conference final, one to the SCF. However the last one was back in 2010

A 4-7 start to a season in which the GM said it’s time to take the next step forward.


What we deserve is a winning (frank)ing hockey team, enough is enough.

Ronalds half ass rebuild is not having very good results. Outside of 1st rd picks no draft choices are doing anything of substance. He refuses imo to make a hockey trade to actually help the flyers. his trades and signings have been failures overall.

I was hoping the team would have taken the identity of the GM when he was a player; yet we have the total opposite.

they have been was to play against for years. Average leadership.

Combine all the above and this is what you get. There is no quick fix though there are moves that can help.

we don't deserve Claude Giroux
- Mordecai

He's our Alfie. He's been a trooper through some poop teams.

Ronalds half ass rebuild is not having very good results. Outside of 1st rd picks no draft choices are doing anything of substance. He refuses imo to make a hockey trade to actually help the flyers. his trades and signings have been failures overall.

I was hoping the team would have taken the identity of the GM when he was a player; yet we have the total opposite.

they have been was to play against for years. Average leadership.

Combine all the above and this is what you get. There is no quick fix though there are moves that can help.
- rinaldo

He made that move that got us Konency. That's about the only big thing he has done aside from signing JVR. Over 4 years though, that is not a lot to hang your hat on.

Like I've mentioned before I give him praise for his draft picks but even then a lot of that is due to the scouting department, which was put in place by Homer...

He made that move that got us Konency. That's about the only big thing he has done aside from signing JVR. Over 4 years though, that is not a lot to hang your hat on.

Like I've mentioned before I give him praise for his draft picks but even then a lot of that is due to the scouting department, which was put in place by Homer...
- hereticpride

He also was able to move out albatross contracts like Pronger and Lecavalier, as well. Until he did that, they didn't have the cap space to do things like sign JvR. He also turned Zac Rinaldo into a third round pick, too.

But yes, outside of drafts, the majority (not all) of his moves have been marginal moves. The only real showstopper was the Schenn trade.

So Goulbourne, Aube-Kubel and Leier look to be coming up for the west coast trip. Seems to be the last move before a trade or coaching change if things don't turn around.

Adding a little grit and sandpaper as they take on some physical teams will be interesting. This team needs something. Even something small if positive might start to not turn but at least start nudging this thing into the correct direction.

He made that move that got us Konency. That's about the only big thing he has done aside from signing JVR. Over 4 years though, that is not a lot to hang your hat on.

Like I've mentioned before I give him praise for his draft picks but even then a lot of that is due to the scouting department, which was put in place by Homer...
- hereticpride

I think Hextall is more responsible for the drafting than that. Since he took over they've put a bigger emphasis on late round skill, european drafting has gotten much better, and they've actually kept/acquired draft picks.

He has been one of the best drafters of talent in the league...developers of talent is still a work in progress IMO.

So Goulbourne, Aube-Kubel and Leier look to be coming up for the west coast trip. Seems to be the last move before a trade or coaching change if things don't turn around.

Adding a little grit and sandpaper as they take on some physical teams will be interesting. This team needs something. Even something small if positive might start to not turn but at least start nudging this thing into the correct direction.
- J35Bacher

where did you see Leier is coming?

He made that move that got us Konency. That's about the only big thing he has done aside from signing JVR. Over 4 years though, that is not a lot to hang your hat on.

Like I've mentioned before I give him praise for his draft picks but even then a lot of that is due to the scouting department, which was put in place by Homer...
- hereticpride

did he make any changes to the scouting dept? major ones? asking as don't know.

picks look good on paper right now thats it. still give it some time sure though would have expected a little better results.

where did you see Leier is coming?
- YuenglingJagr

Think it was in a Sam tweet he heard Leier might be on his way too.

So with Vorobyev going down I wonder if Laughton goes to center on the 3rd line or does Weal?

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek
Aube-Kubel - Laughton - Simmonds
Goulbourne - Lehtara - Leier


Maybe?

He also was able to move out albatross contracts like Pronger and Lecavalier, as well. Until he did that, they didn't have the cap space to do things like sign JvR. He also turned Zac Rinaldo into a third round pick, too.

But yes, outside of drafts, the majority (not all) of his moves have been marginal moves. The only real showstopper was the Schenn trade.
- jmatchett383

trading pronger was easy don't you think? how much credit does he really get for that as it wasn't this wow move.

trading vinyny was also imo not much about him. vinny could have easily said fu I will collect my cash. vinny made that more than the gm;again imo. does he get credit for both moves, sure he was the gm but it wasn't this genius move.

rinaldo trade was great. schenn trade is still a huge question. One is producing in the nhl other 2 are not. lest see in 4/5 years to get a better grasp.

Think it was in a Sam tweet he heard Leier might be on his way too.

So with Vorobyev going down I wonder if Laughton goes to center on the 3rd line or does Weal?

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek
Aube-Kubel - Laughton - Simmonds
Goulbourne - Lehtara - Leier


Maybe?
- J35Bacher

Leier was scratched last night. They'd have to make another roster move if Leier was getting called up.

Ghoulbourne sucks and it will be close to playing with 11 forwards. Hopefully limits their ice time though so silver linings I guess

He made that move that got us Konency. That's about the only big thing he has done aside from signing JVR. Over 4 years though, that is not a lot to hang your hat on.

Like I've mentioned before I give him praise for his draft picks but even then a lot of that is due to the scouting department, which was put in place by Homer...
- hereticpride

That was the plan. The plan was to build the team through the draft. He did trade Brayden Schenn for 2 first round picks also.

The VGK blog writer is leaving - who here was snubbed for that gig? Is he/she going to get it now?

Oh, regarding the Flyers - it's time for a change. Someone needs to leave.

He also was able to move out albatross contracts like Pronger
- jmatchett383

That move was so easy anyone here could've done it.

That move was so easy anyone here could've done it.
- Scoob

So everyone here is a better GM than Paul Holmgren?

So everyone here is a better GM than Paul Holmgren?
- jmatchett383

No. Nobody here is even close to him, despite what they may think. It's not an insult, just a statement of fact. That said, dealing Pronger to a pathetic team that needed a contract to reach the floor was as no-brainer as it gets.