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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
So down by 2 goals in the 3rd you think its a better stategy to win games to play a 3rd line C with little experience over your first and 2nd line guys? Coaches job is to win games, not coddle young players and play them for poops and giggles
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You're such a weirdo.

First off, he played like 4 minutes in the first 2 periods. Why not play him more when it was tied or when it was a one goal game?

Secondly, when you shorten the bench, you don't shorten it to 2 lines. You typically shorten to 3 or thereabouts.

Thirdly, and most importantly, why is Weise getting more minutes in the 3-1 game than a more skilled Vorobyev? Why not put him in the mix with some of those top 6 guys who weren't doing jack poop anyway? This coach is out of touch. He's bad. Firing him is not the cure, but it will help the symptoms when Sanhiem isn't the least played defenseman, and when Laughton and Vorobyev aren't the least played forwards.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18

Oh oh oh I'm on fire.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Been a Flyers fan since the late-70s. Never have I seen a team with less of an identity as this one. Starts from the top. Don’t get me wrong: youth is great. But for the love of God, Please infuse the roster with some grit and accountability.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
Fire
- landros 2


Fire...and make trades.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 27 @ 5:32 PM ET
Fire
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:35 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire

But consider trades as well.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
Rick Bowness ass coach for Dallas now. Was ass for Tampa before. Very experienced and well respected.
- Landsbergfan


Or just a monkey wearing a suite. Anything would be better.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
I’ve been around a while. I’ve seen good coaches: Shero, Quinn, Keenan, Hitch and Lavi. And I’ve seen the bad: McCammon, Cashman and Simpson. Sadly, Hak is a lot closer to the latter group, than the former.
- BiggE

It's really just brutal.

I know I'm dating myself (or...doing the opposite of that) but this is just ridiculous.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Oct 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire.

No turning back. Hak publicly challenged team and THAT happened. Unless, in North Dakota, "sack up" means play like crap and lose by 5...
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Oct 27 @ 5:50 PM ET
Fire.

No turning back. Hak publicly challenged team and THAT happened. Unless, in North Dakota, "sack up" means play like crap and lose by 5...

- cdearth23

It actually might mean that.
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Oct 27 @ 5:51 PM ET
Hexstall's experiment with hiring a college coach has failed. Hakstol has been in over his head since he became the Flyers coach. Hopefully Hexstall swallows his pride and fires the entire staff?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Oct 27 @ 5:57 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire
Brimstone
Joined: 12.22.2013

Oct 27 @ 5:58 PM ET
Fire
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 27 @ 6:00 PM ET
Keep


For jack Hughes purposes only
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 6:01 PM ET
Hexstall's experiment with hiring a college coach has failed. Hakstol has been in over his head since he became the Flyers coach. Hopefully Hexstall swallows his pride and fires the entire staff?
- Thors-Hammer

Can't fire an entire staff mid season. Hak will get the ax and hopefully Lappy as well. Would not be surprised to see Knoblach or Murphy named interim coach.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 27 @ 6:03 PM ET
John Stevens will be the next coach. Ho hum.
- hereticpride

Kings vs Flyers coming up! On Hak's last roadtrip
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 27 @ 6:03 PM ET
You're such a weirdo.

First off, he played like 4 minutes in the first 2 periods. Why not play him more when it was tied or when it was a one goal game?

Secondly, when you shorten the bench, you don't shorten it to 2 lines. You typically shorten to 3 or thereabouts.

Thirdly, and most importantly, why is Weise getting more minutes in the 3-1 game than a more skilled Vorobyev? Why not put him in the mix with some of those top 6 guys who weren't doing jack poop anyway? This coach is out of touch. He's bad. Firing him is not the cure, but it will help the symptoms when Sanhiem isn't the least played defenseman, and when Laughton and Vorobyev aren't the least played forwards.

- Giroux_Is_God

All I keep hearing is how Vorobyov should play because he’s young, not because he’s good. This game wasn’t tied very long, I wouldn’t wonder why Hakstol didn’t play him while it was tied.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 27 @ 6:06 PM ET
Weise is getting minutes because right now him and Lehtera are the only guys earning their minutes on the team

Giroux is playing ok

Simmonds. Konecny, Lindblom, Patrick, Voracek, Couturier are playing like poop and Misha while he isnt getting a chance is not going to do any better. Look you say dont have unreasonable expetactions but that is exactly what you have for Misha. You are down by two and your telling a guy who has 2 games under his belt to go and tie it up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
I haven't read the thread. I'm as frustrated as anyone with the team and I'm sure the comments are all about Hakstol. I still maintain that the issue is not coaching, it's on the players. There is no doubt in my mind about that. However, coaching is a results oriented business and I have doubts that this team will come out of it without some sore of major change being made. The simplest and most reasonable change to make is to make a coaching change. I don't think Hextall is going to do that right now but he should. The timing will never be good. If they wait until there is a gap in the schedule, it may be too late. This has become a mental issue for this team. They need some sort of reset. They're just too easy to play against.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
Weise is getting minutes because right now him and Lehtera are the only guys earning their minutes on the team

Giroux is playing ok

Simmonds. Konecny, Lindblom, Patrick, Voracek, Couturier are playing like poop and Misha while he isnt getting a chance is not going to do any better. Look you say dont have unreasonable expetactions but that is exactly what you have for Misha. You are down by two and your telling a guy who has 2 games under his belt to go and tie it up.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


There isn't an NHL coach alive who wouldn't play the veteran players more in a situation like that. Honestly, and this is why I'm against all the suggestions of calling up players, is that Vorobyev is in an impossible situation. It's hard enough as it is for a rookie to break into the NHL. Even more difficult on a team that is currently dysfunctional.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire, along with the whole staff. There needs to be sweeping changes on the whole staff.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
I haven't read the thread. I'm as frustrated as anyone with the team and I'm sure the comments are all about Hakstol. I still maintain that the issue is not coaching, it's on the players. There is no doubt in my mind about that. However, coaching is a results oriented business and I have doubts that this team will come out of it without some sore of major change being made. The simplest and most reasonable change to make is to make a coaching change. I don't think Hextall is going to do that right now but he should. The timing will never be good. If they wait until there is a gap in the schedule, it may be too late. This has become a mental issue for this team. They need some sort of reset. They're just too easy to play against.
- MJL


They may wait till after the next road trip to make a change.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 27 @ 6:24 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18

Keep
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