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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
That could very well be true Hak, but you don’t air that in front of the media when you’re trying to bring these young guys along. I really don’t know how he survives much longer.
- Sublime55

I don’t know why he wasn’t fired immediately after the final buzzer.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
That could very well be true Hak, but you don’t air that in front of the media when you’re trying to bring these young guys along. I really don’t know how he survives much longer.
- Sublime55


To be fair, he was specifically asked about Vorobyev in the question. Now why didn't anyone ask why he kept playing Voracek?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
Can we trade Weise back to the Habs for Julien?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
What did those players do?



Hint: Gave up more goals

- Glak18


What do you think Misha would have done? The same thing. Top 2 lines at least generated offense. They were all over NYI for most that 3rd until the wheels feel right off
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
To be fair, he was specifically asked about Vorobyev in the question. Now why didn't anyone ask why he kept playing Voracek?
- Glak18


His answer should have been: “I’m not going to comment on specific players or playing time. No one, players and coaches, should be holding their heads high after the way we played today. I’m embarrassed and every player in that damned locker room should be embarrassed. This is not Flyers hockey, it’s not acceptable and it’s damned well going to change”

He then should have walked off the (frank)ing podium.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
What do you think Misha would have done? The same thing. Top 2 lines at least generated offense. They were all over NYI for most that 3rd until the wheels feel right off
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The issue is he's holding some players to ridiculous standards while letting others continue to play poorly and rewarding them with more ice time for it.

Let's also not forget the bench was already shortened due to the Knight injury. Benching the kid made no sense.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 27 @ 5:05 PM ET
What did those players do?



Hint: Gave up more goals

- Glak18


FYI Who do you thinks in the top 6? Patrick, Konecy and Lindblom, the precious young kids you preach need to play and do jack
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
To be fair, he was specifically asked about Vorobyev in the question. Now why didn't anyone ask why he kept playing Voracek?
- Glak18


He certainly could have been more judicious in that response. Saying he had no confidence in a rookie just comes off as a slap at the player.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
The issue is he's holding some players to ridiculous standards while letting others continue to play poorly and rewarding them with more ice time for it.

Let's also not forget the bench was already shortened due to the Knight injury. Benching the kid made no sense.

- hereticpride


The issue is that this is a developing club. Playing Sanheim as little as he has this season or Voro is just dumb.

It’s the Hakstol norm.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
His answer should have been: “I’m not going to comment on specific players or playing time. No one, players and coaches, should be holding their heads high after the way we played today. I’m embarrassed and every player in that damned locker room should be embarrassed. This is not Flyers hockey, it’s not acceptable and it’s damned well going to change”

He then should have walked off the (frank)ing podium.

- BiggE


That would of been a smart move. Instead he reflects accountability.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Dave Tippett
Alain Vigneault

- Glak18

Rick Bowness ass coach for Dallas now. Was ass for Tampa before. Very experienced and well respected.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
He certainly could have been more judicious in that response. Saying he had no confidence in a rookie just comes off as a slap at the player.
- Sublime55


Oh I am not justifying his response at all. He could of just as well blamed Elliott as backup goalie who had little impact on the outcome as well.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
He certainly could have been more artful in that response. Saying he had no confidence in a rookie just comes off as a slap at the player.
- Sublime55



It was a stupid comment. You address the player face to face. Why Center a rookie out for poor play ? I keep hearing what a great job Hakstol has done with the kids and there development. Maybe they are developing in spite of him ? And maybe another coach could actually get more out of them .
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Oct 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
His answer should have been: “I’m not going to comment on specific players or playing time. No one, players and coaches, should be holding their heads high after the way we played today. I’m embarrassed and every player in that damned locker room should be embarrassed. This is not Flyers hockey, it’s not acceptable and it’s damned well going to change”

He then should have walked off the (frank)ing podium.

- BiggE

This entire organization has forgotten the no-quit, out-work-you "Flyers hockey."
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
The issue is that this is a developing club. Playing Sanheim as little as he has this season or Voro is just dumb.

It’s the Hakstol norm.

- flyer_nutter


The smarter move for Hakstol would of been to play those guys more, obviously the top players aren't making a difference so he could see what those young guys do in that situation. If they falter, at least he can say top players are not executing so his only choice was to see what others could do.

Instead he is playing it safe by riding the tired horses and making himself look terrible.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
This entire organization has forgotten the no-quit, out-work-you "Flyers hockey."
- Sinisalo4vr

It would sure be nice to have a team who plays hard even if they're not as good as the opposition.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
This entire organization has forgotten the no-quit, out-work-you "Flyers hockey."
- Sinisalo4vr

Abso(frank)inglutely!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
It would sure be nice to have a team who plays hard even if they're not as good as the opposition.
- hereticpride


Vegas did it and made it to the cup
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Oct 27 @ 5:18 PM ET
I always liked Ted Nolan, seriously.
pinkfloydfreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.13.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:19 PM ET
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 27 @ 5:21 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FanSi...ByOfSIiFtHyi0LEHkSOlCJzrA
- pinkfloydfreak

Amazing
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
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- pinkfloydfreak


I love you.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
https://twitter.com/FanSi...ByOfSIiFtHyi0LEHkSOlCJzrA
- pinkfloydfreak


LMAO
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 27 @ 5:26 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 27 @ 5:26 PM ET
Can I take a poll, who here thinks the first thing needed to correct the ship is to fire Hakstol? Please respond with "Fire" or "Keep"
- Glak18


Fire

However some personnel changes need to follow too
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