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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
The side of reason and truth.
- Victoro311


There's no reason and truth in sales.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 10:13 AM ET
Was our first line the only one with their heads above water last night? Seemed like it. Rust deserves some criticism. He is poopting the bed on the first line.

It was nice to see Horny score. He even carried the puck across the blue line for Oleksiak's 2nd.

- Thorny87


Horny will be back up on the 1st line soon enough. Rust will get moved back down to the third line.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:16 AM ET
There's no reason and truth in sales.
- Rinosaur

I think Vic knows he can't sneak anything past me.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Horny will be back up on the 1st line soon enough. Rust will get moved back down to the third line.
- Rinosaur


Jake hasn't exactly been great either. It'd be nice to have the wingers win some more board battles.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 24 @ 10:22 AM ET
Jake hasn't exactly been great either. It'd be nice to have the wingers win some more board battles.
- Thorny87


Jake looked invisible during the preseason, but he’s been ok so far. He definitely could be better.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
Jake hasn't exactly been great either. It'd be nice to have the wingers win some more board battles.
- Thorny87


Of the 7 games so far I think only vs the Leafs did the Pens win the majority of the 50/50 battles. Its a pure effort thing.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
Is there a site that shows how many HDCF each player has had this year?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
Is there a resource for seeing each teams performance by period for the whole season? There must be. I just want to see how the Pens 2nd periods stack up against the rest of the league.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
Of the 7 games so far I think only vs the Leafs did the Pens win the majority of the 50/50 battles. Its a pure effort thing.
- MattStrat

I kinda mean board play in general. The wingers aren't getting many pucks of the wall besides dumping it out. I agree the effort isn't really there night to night.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:28 AM ET
Is there a site that shows how many HDCF each player has had this year?
- Thorny87

natural stat trick
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:30 AM ET
Is there a resource for seeing each teams performance by period for the whole season? There must be. I just want to see how the Pens 2nd periods stack up against the rest of the league.
- MattStrat

Not to my knowledge
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 10:30 AM ET
Is there a site that shows how many HDCF each player has had this year?
- Thorny87


Naturalstattrick.com

Has corsi, fenwick, scoring chances, high danger cf, gf/ga, etc.

You can filter by strength (all situations, 5v5, even, 5v4, etc.)

You can also check out a players line mates to see their production with certain players. Check their toi, etc.

It’s also the website I use for the heat maps after games too. It’s probably my favorite stats website.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:31 AM ET
Is there a site that shows how many HDCF each player has had this year?
- Thorny87

5v5
Player iHDCF
Evgeni Malkin 10
Sidney Crosby 9
Carl Hagelin 8
Patric Hornqvist 6
Derick Brassard 6
Matt Cullen 5
Bryan Rust 5
Phil Kessel 4
Dominik Simon 3
Jake Guentzel 3
Jamie Oleksiak 3
Riley Sheahan 3
Olli Maatta 1
Daniel Sprong 0
Kris Letang 0
Justin Schultz 0
Brian Dumoulin 0
Jack Johnson 0
Juuso Riikola 0
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:37 AM ET
natural stat trick
- Feds91Stammer



^^ thanks
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:38 AM ET
5v5
Player iHDCF
Evgeni Malkin 10
Sidney Crosby 9
Carl Hagelin 8
Patric Hornqvist 6
Derick Brassard 6
Matt Cullen 5
Bryan Rust 5
Phil Kessel 4
Dominik Simon 3
Jake Guentzel 3
Jamie Oleksiak 3
Riley Sheahan 3
Olli Maatta 1
Daniel Sprong 0
Kris Letang 0
Justin Schultz 0
Brian Dumoulin 0
Jack Johnson 0
Juuso Riikola 0

- Feds91Stammer


So Dumo's blocked 2 on 1 wasn't a HDCF?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:40 AM ET
So Dumo's blocked 2 on 1 wasn't a HDCF?
- Thorny87

last nights game?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:41 AM ET
last nights game?
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah. It says 7 GP
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yeah. It says 7 GP
- Thorny87


https://www.naturalstattr...eason=20182019&game=20129

(go to individual event maps and look at Dumos)



Attempts from the yellow areas are assigned a value of 1, attempts from the red areas are assigned a value of 2, and attempts in the green area are assigned a value of 3.

Add 1 to this value if the attempt is considered a rush shot or a rebound. A rebound is any attempt made within 3 seconds of another blocked, missed or saved attempt without a stoppage in play in between. A rush shot is any attempt within 4 seconds of any event in the neutral or defensive zone without a stoppage in play in between.

Decrease this value by 1 if it was a blocked shot.

Any attempt with a score of 2 or higher is considered a scoring chance.

High Danger Scoring Chances - a scoring chance with a score of 3 or higher.


https://www.naturalstattr....com/glossary.php?players
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Oct 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
Go shove your cock in a wallaby.
- j.boyd919

Lol wut
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
So Dumo's blocked 2 on 1 wasn't a HDCF?
- Thorny87


I believe those numbers were individual high danger corsi events for.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 10:53 AM ET
https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20182019&game=20129

(go to individual event maps and look at Dumos)





https://www.naturalstattr....com/glossary.php?players

- Feds91Stammer

No HDCF in overtime for the Pens?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:56 AM ET
No HDCF in overtime for the Pens?
- Thorny87

High danger was 1 and 1 for each team last night in OT.

Filters default to 5v5 because the most useful data is in that situation.

Just gotta double check the filters.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 24 @ 10:57 AM ET
I believe those numbers were individual high danger corsi events for.
- j.boyd919

Well I think it scored a 2 for location which would be considered a scoring chance but dropped to a 1 since it was blocked. So not even a scoring chance on that one if I was looking at the event map correctly.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 24 @ 11:01 AM ET
https://www.naturalstattrick.com/game.php?season=20182019&game=20129

(go to individual event maps and look at Dumos)





https://www.naturalstattr....com/glossary.php?players

- Feds91Stammer



The HDSC points system explanation in that graphic is great, thanks.

EDIT: never mind it wasnt in the graphic...the explanation was great none the less...
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Oct 24 @ 11:02 AM ET
Well I think it scored a 2 for location which would be considered a scoring chance but dropped to a 1 since it was blocked. So not even a scoring chance on that one if I was looking at the event map correctly.
- Feds91Stammer

He was right in the slot. Just watched the replay
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