I think it's far more about player execution on the ice than the PK system. I'm quite certain that the system by design does not allow a player to walk right in on the goaltender unchecked (Boyle) or for a Selke level forward to back skate completely out of the play to get a better view of Rantanen putting the puck in the open net.
- MJL

Hakstol was specifically asked after the game if there was something the PK could do, like pressure the puck, to improve things. Hakstol's response was that if you pressured Colorado's PP they would "seam you to death". He blamed "our top PKer" for not "collapsing to the net". While I agree with Hakstol, in this instance, it doesnt really answer the question about whether there is something fundamental they can change about their PK to improve it. If their players are consistently out of position then the players are either too stupid to understand where they should be, or they have not been trained well enough or they are not talented enough. I don't know what Coots was doing in no man's land covering no one. It looked like he was anticipating a pass out to the point, but the point guy on that side was already behind him at the net. Everyone talks about Couturier's s high hockey IQ, so I guess he's not stupid. There's no doubt that he's a talented enough to kill penalties. So, whats the answer? Why is this team consistently at the bottom in PK?

Hakstol was specifically asked after the game if there was something the PK could do, like pressure the puck, to improve things. Hakstol's response was that if you pressured Colorado's PP they would "seam you to death". He blamed "our top PKer" for not "collapsing to the net". While I agree with Hakstol, in this instance, it doesnt really answer the question about whether there is something fundamental they can change about their PK to improve it. If their players are consistently out of position then the players are either too stupid to understand where they should be, or they have not been trained well enough or they are not talented enough. I don't know what Coots was doing in no man's land covering no one. It looked like he was anticipating a pass out to the point, but the point guy on that side was already behind him at the net. Everyone talks about Couturier's s high hockey IQ, so I guess he's not stupid. There's no doubt that he's a talented enough to kill penalties. So, whats the answer? Why is this team consistently at the bottom in PK?
- Dkos

Changing the coach and or the approach are reasonable suggestions. Lets just not pretend that it is an easy or guaranteed fix. It would still require execution on the ice by the players. I think it's insulting for someone to suggest that Hextall doesn't have the guts to fire a coach or that he's not capable of seeing what the root causes are. No matter what is done, the players have to fix it on the ice.

Hakstol was specifically asked after the game if there was something the PK could do, like pressure the puck, to improve things. Hakstol's response was that if you pressured Colorado's PP they would "seam you to death". He blamed "our top PKer" for not "collapsing to the net". While I agree with Hakstol, in this instance, it doesnt really answer the question about whether there is something fundamental they can change about their PK to improve it. If their players are consistently out of position then the players are either too stupid to understand where they should be, or they have not been trained well enough or they are not talented enough. I don't know what Coots was doing in no man's land covering no one. It looked like he was anticipating a pass out to the point, but the point guy on that side was already behind him at the net. Everyone talks about Couturier's s high hockey IQ, so I guess he's not stupid. There's no doubt that he's a talented enough to kill penalties. So, whats the answer? Why is this team consistently at the bottom in PK?
- Dkos

That was 100% on Couturier, nothing to do with PK structure.

I think you know that there's always more room at the bottom of the barrel if you scrape hard enough.
- Feanor

It can always get worse I suppose, but it's so bad now it likely wouldn't matter.

That was 100% on Couturier, nothing to do with PK structure.
- ClaudeFather

It's a tough stretch for sure when Couturier and Provorov are not two of our best players.

It's a tough stretch for sure when Couturier and Provorov are not two of our best players.
- opeth_pa

TK needs to be back on the top line, hopefully that can get him going. TK's speed is an asset for a guy like Giroux to use, he can find open areas for him. I'm more concerned with Provorov than Cooter.

I'm all for skill and finesse and deception, but the amount of touch/tap passes this team does per shift borders on All-Star Weekend frequency.

That was 100% on Couturier, nothing to do with PK structure.
- ClaudeFather

Neither were the two goals in the previous game with Boyle allowed to skate to the net unchallenged, Elliott not coming out to create contact, or the cross box pass past numerous sticks.

Neither were the two goals in the previous game with Boyle allowed to skate to the net unchallenged, Elliott not coming out to create contact, or the cross box pass past numerous sticks.
- MJL

I can recall a crazy bounce off a blocked shot straight to a wide open evander kane with a few seconds left on a kill as well. Players need to be better, not saying the coach is great for the PK, far from it, but the players have not executed at all.

The Flyers haven't a good PK since 13-14 when Kimmo, Coburn and Adam Hall were mainstays. And that was the last full year in the league for both of them.

The Flyers haven't a good PK since 13-14 when Kimmo, Coburn and Adam Hall were mainstays. And that was the last full year in the league for both of them.
- Feanor

Yup, Kimmo and Coburn were a still a good pair, especially on the PK then. The Flyers just don’t have a pairing like that right now, especially with Provorov struggling.

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.
- hockeylover

Can I please be Gritty

Can I please be Gritty
- arichardson22

I was hoping for rinaldo, but you'll do fine.


rinaldo can be maintenance then with JoeGrief as his assistant.

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.
Plind will run the PR department.

- hockeylover

Can't go wrong with that choice.

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.
- hockeylover

Whatever you do, don't listen to BiggE when he says he wants to manage all of the alcohol vendors

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.
- hockeylover

Elaborate on my role please haha

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.
- hockeylover

I have no professional medical experience. Therefore, in Flyers tradition, I would like to be head of the medical staff.

Can't go wrong with that choice.
- opeth_pa

His first slogan for the t-shirts: Flyers hockey is back...until April.

I have no professional medical experience. Therefore, in Flyers tradition, I would like to be head of the medical staff.
- jmatchett383

You will be well respected league wide

I have no professional medical experience. Therefore, in Flyers tradition, I would like to be head of the medical staff.
- jmatchett383

Then you have to learn this:

"Mike Modano played with a broken jaw and you're telling me you can't go because you have a headache?"

I was hoping for rinaldo, but you'll do fine.


rinaldo can be maintenance then with JoeGrief as his assistant.
- hockeylover

You already have a bunch of "hockey ambassadors."

I was hoping for rinaldo, but you'll do fine.


rinaldo can be maintenance then with JoeGrief as his assistant.
- hockeylover

At least we know all the depressed players could get helped courtesy of JG.

When I win the Mega-Millions guys I'll buy the team.


I'm having MJL manage the cap.

Feanor can be the GM


Plind will run the PR department.


Scoob can coach.

Nutter can run the alumni


Will post other openings at later date.
- hockeylover

Easy gig - just do whatever people post here, right?

Changing the coach and or the approach are reasonable suggestions. Lets just not pretend that it is an easy or guaranteed fix. It would still require execution on the ice by the players. I think it's insulting for someone to suggest that Hextall doesn't have the guts to fire a coach or that he's not capable of seeing what the root causes are. No matter what is done, the players have to fix it on the ice.
- MJL

I'm not suggesting there is an easy fix or that I know how to fix it. I know players need to "execute". So why aren't they? If players consistently can't "execute" doesn't that just mean they are bad players? Something's not right on this team and it hasn't been right for a while. There are some who think the style of play Hakstol advocates, the style they played against NJ, isn't a good fit for this roster. I know the Hextall and Hakstol are all about the "200 ft game" and "playing the right way", yet huge contracts go to swashbuckling players like Voracek and Giroux, Ghost is promoted to the first pair D, they want Provorov to push the offense and draft a player like Konecny. Seems like they love and reward guys who are creative and exciting offensively but want them to play a very structured and, frankly, boring game. Wasn't it just a few years ago that people wanted to see Laviolette go because he couldn't adapt his system to the players he had?