YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Team defense is garbage. Goaltending has been very poor. Voracek has had more than a few lazy defensive zone games. Giroux has been guilty and Simmonds has had his issues as well.
Folin is not even good as far as 7th defensemen standards go. Manning was better.
It doesn’t help the Provorov hasn’t been playing very good. - bird_dog_pa
I'm not saying he doesn't have things to fix. Everyone on the team could be doing more to be better (except for maybe Gudas). However, Voracek almost single handedly won the game against Ottawa. I don't really think he and the other well known guys necessarily need to lead by example, they just need to play better because they are out there so often. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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Yes it is. I also think that a Weise for McDavid deal straight up is tempting as well. - jmatchett383
Be dialing people!!! |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I'd drive to Columbus to pick him up. - Scoob
stop and eat at Katzinger's before you leave |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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I'm not saying he doesn't have things to fix. Everyone on the team could be doing more to be better (except for maybe Gudas). However, Voracek almost single handedly won the game against Ottawa. I don't really think he and the other well known guys necessarily need to lead by example, they just need to play better because they are out there so often. - YuenglingJagr
Ottawa is almost in a full blown rebuild. We should be able to beat them in our sleep. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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This Flyers haven't had a goaltender in 30 year lazy narrative is getting old.
One stud after another in between the pipes. - PLindbergh31
Good morning, sunshine! |
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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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The biggest problem with the core is that perhaps the most important part of it(Provorov) is struggling to find his game right now. It looks to he coming but hes not up to his standards. - Baxter27
They definitely miss Provorov's usual solid play, but I think it's just wrong that they put so much on such a young kid. |
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SuperSchennBros
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Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot! Joined: 09.01.2012
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I agree with I don't need more Folin. But I don't think adding another young defender is the fix. I actually think it's the other way. I think they need a vet guy who can play in your top 3 defense role.
I think you need to break up Gostisbehere and Provorov. I am good with Gostisbehere and Hagg. But i need someone who can play with Provorov and play some heavy minutes. - J35Bacher
If Myer is a better option. If! You bring him up. |
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Baxter27
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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I would look at defense first. I think a vet guy who can almost take some pressure of your top guys like Provorov and Gostisbehere would be a help. I know we have vets in gudas and MacDonald but someone who can play in your top 4 and probably be on your top pair would be a huge boost and maybe calm some things down.
I wanted Dion Phaneuf last year because I thought he could do that here. Ideally I would like someone to pair with Provorov. - J35Bacher
Id watch the waiver wire but unless theyre cutting bait with Macdonald or Gudas I dont see them actively pursuing another veteran. The plan is in place with a young core and guys like Myers, Morin and Friedman waiting in the wings.
It sounds Bizarre but it may make sense to split up Ghost and Provorov to give the later a bit of a reset. I wouldnt want to split up Sanheim and Gudas, so that leaves Hagg and Folin as options to pair him with which isnt ideal but maybe worth a shot. Try a 3 balanced pairings approach.
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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Gritty, PA Joined: 01.15.2007
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I would look at defense first. I think a vet guy who can almost take some pressure of your top guys like Provorov and Gostisbehere would be a help. I know we have vets in gudas and MacDonald but someone who can play in your top 4 and probably be on your top pair would be a huge boost and maybe calm some things down.
I wanted Dion Phaneuf last year because I thought he could do that here. Ideally I would like someone to pair with Provorov. - J35Bacher
yes, this! |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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The Wild are a good team every year, but they never really seem threatening, kind of like the entire state of Minnesota. Like, yes, they're good, but there's never any pop to them. You always forget that they even exist until you play against them, then you realize that they're good, and then you forget about them two days later. - jmatchett383
wow - that is a great description! |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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If Myer is a better option. If! You bring him up. - SuperSchennBros
Thing is I don't know if he fixes this.
Not saying he isn't more talented. Just not sure he fixes what they need now. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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What’s everyone being for Halloween - arichardson22
I'm gonna go as AMac. It's easy, you just fall down, let the rest of the trick and treaters go right by you and when someone throws a piece of candy to them, you block it.
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Id watch the waiver wire but unless theyre cutting bait with Macdonald or Gudas I dont see them actively pursuing another veteran. The plan is in place with a young core and guys like Myers, Morin and Friedman waiting in the wings.
It sounds Bizarre but it may make sense to split up Ghost and Provorov to give the later a bit of a reset. I wouldnt want to split up Sanheim and Gudas, so that leaves Hagg and Folin as options to pair him with which isnt ideal but maybe worth a shot. Try a 3 balanced pairings approach. - Baxter27
Gostisbehere and Hagg played well together last year. I am ok with them going back together. Sanheim and Gudas seem pretty good right now. i need someone who can play with Provorov. I know Myers is talented but I am not sure he should be thrown in to try and be the fix. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Thing is I don't know if he fixes this.
Not saying he isn't more talented. Just not sure he fixes what they need now. - J35Bacher
In reality, the Flyers are probably only 3 players away from being the best team in the league. Sadly, those players are Mario Lemieux, Ray Bourque and Dominic Hasek.
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VladDrag
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 01.13.2009
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The really annoying thing is that Hak hasn't implemented a whole new system they are all trying to learn. So there is no excuse for the poor coverage and players looking like they have no idea where they are supposed to be.
What Hak DOES need to nip in the bud immediately is the lack of attention to detail and the poor decision making. Forwards aren't back checking.
As for the poopty goalie play, that is a viscous circle. It seems defense and goaltenders don't trust each other. Goalies because defense is leaving them hanging out to dry too often, and defense because goalies are letting in too many softies and not making any momentum saves.
Add to that how the forwards are not supporting defense.
That is on Hak to make sure the leadership and players start doing what they are supposed to do. Giroux, Simmonds, Amac, cant bench players or take away ice time. And that is what has to happen. - MBFlyerfan
I do wonder how much the players are behind the coach, or if they tuned him out. Ghost is on record saying something like ‘I don’t care if I get yelled at, I am going to make plays.’
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Id watch the waiver wire but unless theyre cutting bait with Macdonald or Gudas I dont see them actively pursuing another veteran. The plan is in place with a young core and guys like Myers, Morin and Friedman waiting in the wings.
It sounds Bizarre but it may make sense to split up Ghost and Provorov to give the later a bit of a reset. I wouldnt want to split up Sanheim and Gudas, so that leaves Hagg and Folin as options to pair him with which isnt ideal but maybe worth a shot. Try a 3 balanced pairings approach. - Baxter27
They did use Provorov Myers a bit in preseason :D |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I'm gonna go as AMac. It's easy, you just fall down, let the rest of the trick and treaters go right by you and when someone throws a piece of candy to them, you block it. - BiggE
I'm gonna go as Dave Hakstol, but I am going to put my own spin on it like the girls in college do. I am going to be an emotional Dave Hakstol. I am going to yell loudly, stare holes through people, throw stuff, punch somebody in the head, you name it, if it shows anger and emotion, I WILL BE DOING IT |
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FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE Joined: 07.02.2012
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What’s everyone being for Halloween - arichardson22
A priestess of Yog-Sothoth. I have a long red and black hooded robe and a black metal mask lace cut with tiny chips of glass in strategic places to catch and reflect light. |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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I'm gonna go as AMac. It's easy, you just fall down, let the rest of the trick and treaters go right by you and when someone throws a piece of candy to them, you block it. - BiggE
Hahaha nicely done! |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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They did use Provorov Myers a bit in preseason :D - YuenglingJagr
Could very well be their top pairing in a year or two. I would love to be able to move Ghost onto a pair with Hagg and leave Gudas with Sanheim, but AMac, even when healthy, has no business on a top pair.
Young D take time to put it all together, and yeah, it's frustrating. Getting more help and better D play from the forwards would be a big help to the D group and finding a goalie who can stop all the stoppable shots and make a big save or 2 most nights would help even more. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I'm gonna go as Dave Hakstol, but I am going to put my own spin on it like the girls in college do. I am going to be an emotional Dave Hakstol. I am going to yell loudly, stare holes through people, throw stuff, punch somebody in the head, you name it, if it shows anger and emotion, I WILL BE DOING IT - YuenglingJagr
So you're going to be John Tortorella dressing up as Dave Hakstol? |
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is there any recchi/desjardin deal out there to be had....... |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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A priestess of Yog-Sothoth. I have a long red and black hooded robe and a black metal mask lace cut with tiny chips of glass in strategic places to catch and reflect light. - FlyersGrace
Damn, and all this time I just thought that was your everyday garb.
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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A priestess of Yog-Sothoth. I have a long red and black hooded robe and a black metal mask lace cut with tiny chips of glass in strategic places to catch and reflect light. - FlyersGrace
I’m not too familiar with Yog-Sothoth but it sounds cool based on your description.
I’m being the light blue and grey old school Batman and my gf is being an old school Catwoman |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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Slow starts falls on the..............? Players and Coach
Lack of Intensity falls on the.................? Players
Lack of being able to play a full 60 minute game falls on the................? Players
No young gun being lights out, all just kinda on the brink, falls on the............?GM - Konalover
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