I just want to point out that ROR has 0 goals, 2 even-strength points, and 2 primary points (goal or first assist) in 6 games played. Is this pace going to continue? Idk, probably not, I'm guessing you'd say. But then why can't Berglund start playing a little better up to his standard as well. My point is it's a little premature to write anybody (except Larsson, that guy SUUUCCKS) off just quite yet with the turnover and what I'd imagine is a semi-new team concept.
- SDSabre

Could Berglund start playing better?
MAYBE
But here why i doubt it...

1) the 17goals/57games
That was playing the WING on a GOOD team... it’s just not happening here

2) defensive center role
What makes us think he can be a good defensive center here, when StL moved him to the wing bc they didn’t like how he was playing at Center?!

3) Botts/Housley wanted us to get faster this season
Well, Berglund is anything but fast-
so he doesn’t even fit into the team dynamic they’re trying to move towards


Like i said...
If I’m wrong, I’ll own it
But i don’t think I’m gonna be

Sorry, I thought it was per year, not for 3 years

Sam

6gp
0 goals
3 assists
-5

Any other " core" goal scoring leaders from last year, not scored yet for their team?

Asking for a friend
- Boss34

Clayton Keller.

Edit: Taylor Hall

Clayton Keller.
- Wetbandit1

Ryan O’Reilly

That’s a fair point

But when u consider what we got back for ROR, it just sucks

Berglund & Sobatka are both guys we could do without
And i didn’t like that Thompson was the young player we got
We really couldn’t get someone better from them when we were taking Sobatka AND Berglund off their hands?
Then we shouldn’t have made the deal
- jdfitz77

I think we got fleeced once again.

Bergland a Svbotka's contracts were albatrosses around St. Louis's neck. We had the leverage to get better but got skiddish.

What we got was Tage Thompson and a 1st rd protected pic, which. I think shouldn't have been protected.

Taking Bergy & Svobotka's craptracts (new word for sh itty contracts) should've been 2 2nds. Remember Las Vegas was given high picks for taking on bad craptacts, so why couldn't GMJB do the same?

A #1 center should be a high price item to aquire. We took "food stamps" from the poor craptract laiden St. Louis Blues.

We did them a huge favor by including them in the deal when we could've kept O'Rielly and dealt him at another time getting a better deal.

I think we got fleeced once again.

Bergland a Svbotka's contracts were albatrosses around St. Louis's neck. We had the leverage to get better but got skiddish.

What we got was Tage Thompson and a 1st rd protected pic, which. I think shouldn't have been protected.

Taking Bergy & Svobotka's craptracts (new word for sh itty contracts) should've been 2 2nds. Remember Las Vegas was given high picks for taking on bad craptacts, so why couldn't GMJB do the same?

A #1 center should be a high price item to aquire. We took "food stamps" from the poor craptract laiden St. Louis Blues.

We did them a huge favor by including them in the deal when we could've kept O'Rielly and dealt him at another time getting a better deal.
- MLew65

^this guy gets it

Ryan O’Reilly
- sbroads24

Taylor Hall

Konecny

Ryan O’Reilly
- sbroads24

Patrik Berglund 🤮

Taylor Hall

Konecny
- Wetbandit1

Crosby

Eberle

Practice lines were:

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Elie-Sobatka-Thompson
Girgensons-Rodrigues-Pominville

Defense the same
- jdfitz77

Why change anything and hold people accountable.

Housley is trash.

No, Berglund doesn’t suck
But he’s extremely average

And if he isn’t gonna be a good defensive center for us,
then we might as well be playing Nylander

He’s just another ”Pouliot”
Difference is that he’s here for 4 freaking years
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

I think we got fleeced once again.

Bergland a Svbotka's contracts were albatrosses around St. Louis's neck. We had the leverage to get better but got skiddish.

What we got was Tage Thompson and a 1st rd protected pic, which. I think shouldn't have been protected.

Taking Bergy & Svobotka's craptracts (new word for sh itty contracts) should've been 2 2nds. Remember Las Vegas was given high picks for taking on bad craptacts, so why couldn't GMJB do the same?

A #1 center should be a high price item to aquire. We took "food stamps" from the poor craptract laiden St. Louis Blues.

We did them a huge favor by including them in the deal when we could've kept O'Rielly and dealt him at another time getting a better deal.
- MLew65

No one else wanted OReilly and his contract was also an albatross.

Crosby

Eberle
- Wetbandit1

Ehlers

Berglund is another Pouliot

No, he doesn’t suck
But he’s extremely average

And if he isn’t gonna be a good defensive center for us,
then we might as well be playing Nylander
- jdfitz77

Pouliot wasn't average. Terrible comparison.

Pouliot wasn't average. Terrible comparison.
- sabresfan69

Beyond terrible, and I didn’t hate Pouliot.

Pouliot wasn't average. Terrible comparison.
- sabresfan69

Most on here said he was

Pouliot had 13goals last year
That about what i think Berglund will do

Patrik Berglund 🤮
- jdfitz77

Don't think Berglund is being counted as a "core" contributor like ROR is supposed to be. That's fine that you don't like Berglund and to a lesser extent dirty pod racer, because of contract length, but I'll ask for a second time: How do you feel about ROR's contract now vs where it'll stack in 3 years? You don't have to answer but I know how I feel about it. He's already looking slower then he did 2 years ago. And he's got what, 6 more years on that deal?

Ehlers
- Wetbandit1

Jaden Schwartz

So, yes, a handful of really good players have yet to score this season.

Clayton Keller.

Edit: Taylor Hall
- Wetbandit1

Keller was completely invisible vs. Buffalo.


Sam isnt playing 3rd line center this year with non NHL players?
He is getting prime ice time and pp time with eichel.


Excuses are running thin.

-5 in 6 games. That's hard to defend, but I'm sure you'll find a way.

Beyond terrible, and I didn’t hate Pouliot.
- sbroads24

Yeah, we all know u seem to prefer mediocre players to good ones

Sorry...
i should’ve compared Berglund to your boy Armia


Berglund will score closer to the 13goals that Pouliot got for us,
than the 20goals u say he can get to

Bet me

No, Berglund doesn’t suck
But he’s extremely average

And if he isn’t gonna be a good defensive center for us,
then we might as well be playing Nylander

He’s just another ”Pouliot”
Difference is that he’s here for 4 freaking years
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
- jdfitz77

So you're upset that a below average 1C (Giving the benefit here, as I think he's worse then that) should get more then 2 average players, a first, a second, and high prospect? I mean, I'll take that for ROR all day. And I don't mind him. It's just when you actually dig into the numbers and see that he plays a (frank) ton of minutes, ROR isn't anything more then slightly above average in any facet of the game except FO.

Ryan O’Reilly
- sbroads24

"I could care less about any of those guys."

I think we got fleeced once again.

Bergland a Svbotka's contracts were albatrosses around St. Louis's neck. We had the leverage to get better but got skiddish.

What we got was Tage Thompson and a 1st rd protected pic, which. I think shouldn't have been protected.

Taking Bergy & Svobotka's craptracts (new word for sh itty contracts) should've been 2 2nds. Remember Las Vegas was given high picks for taking on bad craptacts, so why couldn't GMJB do the same?

A #1 center should be a high price item to aquire. We took "food stamps" from the poor craptract laiden St. Louis Blues.

We did them a huge favor by including them in the deal when we could've kept O'Rielly and dealt him at another time getting a better deal.
- MLew65

There was a reason or many reasons we traded ror.

Maybe he's not a #1 center?
Maybe his bad attitude brought his value down?

We got the 2nd for berglunds contract

Sobotka, 1st and tage for ror. That's not as bad?

That’s a fair point

But when u consider what we got back for ROR, it just sucks

Berglund & Sobatka are both guys we could do without
And i didn’t like that Thompson was the young player we got
We really couldn’t get someone better from them when we were taking Sobatka AND Berglund off their hands?
Then we shouldn’t have made the deal
- jdfitz77

Look at it this way: last year we couldn't have scratched someone of Berglund's caliber. The traded afforded us a certain amount of depth.

O'Reilly is better than any of these guys. But there are positives

Don't think Berglund is being counted as a "core" contributor like ROR is supposed to be. That's fine that you don't like Berglund and to a lesser extent dirty pod racer, because of contract length, but I'll ask for a second time: How do you feel about ROR's contract now vs where it'll stack in 3 years? You don't have to answer but I know how I feel about it. He's already looking slower then he did 2 years ago. And he's got what, 6 more years on that deal?
- SDSabre

I’d MUCH rather have ROR than Berglund
We’ve beat that to death though

Point is...
Berglund isn’t a guy we should’ve wanted
He’s not playing well,
And he’s got 4 years left

We traded for a guy who was MOVED TO THE WING, and are asking him to play tough minutes as our defensive center
That’s a guy we are “counting on”

And that was a dumb idea imo

Nah dude, a guy who literally just came off of a 17 goal in 57 game season is undoubtedly going right on our 4th line next year
- sbroads24

To be fair, once you factor in the playing for Buffalo algorithm, then those 17 goals go down to like 6.